Your view on birth control?

[firestar]

I voted anything is acceptable except abortion, and I don't see this as thumbing my nose at God's plan. If it's really God's will for you and your spouse to get pregnant, then you will regardless of what kind of BC you use anyway :shrugs:. yes I *have* heard people who despite the best precautions (pills and condoms) still end up with a baby (I think God has such a sense of humour ).

 

[Sabertooth]

What is your view on birth control? Please vote and tell us in here or explain why you voted the way you did.

I did not vote on your poll, because even though I believe we are following the ideal, I can't make a case for why we should try to impose it on other couples who have not independently received such a calling and revelation from God, themselves.

There is no grace for this lifestyle unless you are doing so in obedience to the Spirit.

That being said, we have ten children because we told God that we would yield our bodies [Rom 12:1] to Him for however many (or few) lives He wanted to embody. We did not strive FOR pregnancy or AGAINST it. After our tenth, my wife started hemorrhaging, so she got a necessary hysterectomy and that was the end of the line.

 

[Sabertooth]

Lust control - that is the issue God wants Christians to address.

Spouses are free, even encouraged, to lust for each other, though, certainly, the relationship is to go beyond that.

 

[Sabertooth]

From a stand point of a man, father, grandfather, and husband, here is my 2 cents.

It seems highly illogical that God would have us be stupid about children. In the modern world, the idea of unrestrained reproduction is personal suicide...

There is no such thing as "unrestrained reproduction," at least not for humans*. No one comes into existence without a purpose, plan and eternal destiny in heaven or hell. Who can a Christian conceive that should not be conceived?

*God clearly ordains us to use such discretion over plants and animals.

 

[RiverSalado]

I voted "No birth control method is acceptable for Christians."

 

[RiverSalado]

I think pretty much any from of birth control within marriage, with the exception of abortion.

 

[moicherie]

I agree the birth control method which is acceptable for Christians is the one the couple believe God guides them to use. I'm not for imposing what I deem acceptable on others.
I have a necesssary evil attitude to abortion there is not where i am forcing anyone to give birth as a result of rape of other horrible means.

 

[justcallmejamie]

im cool with birth control

 

[Erinwilcox]

Answering for my own beliefs, I feel that it is wrong to use birth control. God has commanded men and women to be fruitful and multiply and He has said repeatedly in His Word that children are a blessing from the Lord. Let me ask a question. What would Hannah or Elizabeth have felt concerning birth control? In the Bible, to be barren was a shame. Do you not feel that they would condemn birth control? They wanted children so badly (because they were blessings from God). How is it that in modern culture we feel that children are an inconvenience, an unnecessary bother, or just merely unimportant?

 

[Svt4Him]

Answering for my own beliefs, I feel that it is wrong to use birth control. God has commanded men and women to be fruitful and multiply and He has said repeatedly in His Word that children are a blessing from the Lord. Let me ask a question. What would Hannah or Elizabeth have felt concerning birth control? In the Bible, to be barren was a shame. Do you not feel that they would condemn birth control? They wanted children so badly (because they were blessings from God). How is it that in modern culture we feel that children are an inconvenience, an unnecessary bother, or just merely unimportant?

Who cares how they felt then, how would they feel if they were right here, having grown up in our culture, with our life experiences, in our social standing, with the same hurts, hopes, teachings? Well, probably like everyone here does. So after you're married and have six to eight kids, then come back and tell me you're still having more.

And why is it that if I only want a certain amount of children, that makes them all of a sudden an unnecessary bother or unimportant?

And are you sure those women wanted babies because they were a blessing from the Lord, or as a social status? Since you made the claim, can you show me the Scripture?

And God has commanded people to be fruitful, He also commanded to sell everything and give it to the poor, then follow Him. So when you've sold everything, where will you and your eight or so kids live? Don't stop at eight though, one lady just had her 16th.

 

[Erinwilcox]

But where in the Bible does it talk about birth control? Now, where in the Bible does God command men and women to be fruitful and multiply. Also, where does it talk about the Lord opening the womb of the barren and visiting them that they might conceive. Obviously, conception is a blessing from the Lord as well. And, please, notice that I did not say that my views applied to everyone. They were my views as applied to myself and what I would do. Also, Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. If I felt that I was obeying God by not using birth control, then I would trust in Him to provide for all of my needs. God rewards obedience with blessings. If God wants me to have sixteen children then I will just have to trust him to provide for sixteen children. Once again, these are my views as pertain to me. I was only answering the poll. Here are the verses that you requested.
Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;


Here are the 6 remaining inexact matches:

Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Gen 8:17 Bring forth with thee every living thing that [is] with thee, of all flesh, [both] of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth.

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

Gen 9:7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

Gen 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;
Psa 127:5 Happy [is] the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
Gen 25:21 And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she [was] barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.

Gen 29:31 And when the LORD saw that Leah [was] hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel [was] barren.

Exd 23:26 There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: the number of thy days I will fulfil.

Deu 7:14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.
Jdg 13:3 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou [art] barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son.
1Sa 2:21 And the LORD visited Hannah, so that she conceived, and bare three sons and two daughters. And the child Samuel grew before the LORD.

 

[Svt4Him]

But where in the Bible does it talk about birth control? Now, where in the Bible does God command men and women to be fruitful and multiply. Also, where does it talk about the Lord opening the womb of the barren and visiting them that they might conceive. Obviously, conception is a blessing from the Lord as well. And, please, notice that I did not say that my views applied to everyone. They were my views as applied to myself and what I would do. Also, Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. If I felt that I was obeying God by not using birth control, then I would trust in Him to provide for all of my needs. God rewards obedience with blessings. If God wants me to have sixteen children then I will just have to trust him to provide for sixteen children. Once again, these are my views as pertain to me. I was only answering the poll. Here are the verses that you requested.
Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;


Here are the 6 remaining inexact matches:

Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Gen 8:17 Bring forth with thee every living thing that [is] with thee, of all flesh, [both] of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth.

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

Gen 9:7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

Gen 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;
Psa 127:5 Happy [is] the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
Gen 25:21 And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she [was] barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.

Gen 29:31 And when the LORD saw that Leah [was] hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel [was] barren.

Exd 23:26 There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: the number of thy days I will fulfil.

Deu 7:14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.
Jdg 13:3 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou [art] barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son.
1Sa 2:21 And the LORD visited Hannah, so that she conceived, and bare three sons and two daughters. And the child Samuel grew before the LORD.

These are not specific commands to all people, they are to a few. But you are trying to tie two things together that aren't related. Is someone who can't have children cursed today? And if these are specific commands, then I also command you to go walk on water and sell everything you have and give it to the poor. Honestly if God tells you to have children and a king will come from them, do it. But if not, and it's not faith, it's sin.

None of these address birth control, and children are a blessing. No one is saying they aren't. But you don't really have authority to tell me how many arrows can fit in my quiver, as God has placed me here, not you. So again, are you going to sell everything and give it to the poor, as I can take a verse like you did to support my case.

 

[B®ent]

But where in the Bible does it talk about birth control? Now, where in the Bible does God command men and women to be fruitful and multiply. Also, where does it talk about the Lord opening the womb of the barren and visiting them that they might conceive. Obviously, conception is a blessing from the Lord as well. And, please, notice that I did not say that my views applied to everyone. They were my views as applied to myself and what I would do. Also, Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. If I felt that I was obeying God by not using birth control, then I would trust in Him to provide for all of my needs. God rewards obedience with blessings. If God wants me to have sixteen children then I will just have to trust him to provide for sixteen children. Once again, these are my views as pertain to me. I was only answering the poll. Here are the verses that you requested.
Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;


Here are the 6 remaining inexact matches:

Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Gen 8:17 Bring forth with thee every living thing that [is] with thee, of all flesh, [both] of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth.

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

Gen 9:7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

Gen 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;
Psa 127:5 Happy [is] the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
Gen 25:21 And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she [was] barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.

Gen 29:31 And when the LORD saw that Leah [was] hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel [was] barren.

Exd 23:26 There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: the number of thy days I will fulfil.

Deu 7:14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.
Jdg 13:3 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou [art] barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son.
1Sa 2:21 And the LORD visited Hannah, so that she conceived, and bare three sons and two daughters. And the child Samuel grew before the LORD.

I agree you you. Well-said.

 

[Erinwilcox]

Svt4Him,

I'm not trying to debate you. I only gave my views. Am I forcing them on you? Or, are you uncomfortable because I backed my beliefs by Scripture? These are my views. I don't want to debate them. I was only sharing them.

 

[Svt4Him]

Svt4Him,

I'm not trying to debate you. I only gave my views. Am I forcing them on you? Or, are you uncomfortable because I backed my beliefs by Scripture? These are my views. I don't want to debate them. I was only sharing them.

You are not forcing your views on me any more than I am forcing mine on you. Perhaps it makes you uncomfortable that the Scripture you use ignores other Scripture as well, I'm not sure, or perhaps that is something God has spoken to you about, but you can't then use your convictions like they are Scripture. God blessed those people with children, I agree. Children are a blessing, I agree.

 

[tamtam92]

I didn't vote because i'm not decided on that point. In fact i don't intend to find a solution as i don't think i need one. I just believe that birth control is theoretically useless.

 

[heatherq17]

I dont think there is anything wrong with being on the pill. But Abortion is another story I feel that its VERY wrong in all ways.

 

[cshaeffer]

i agree there is nothing wrong with birth control as long as it is being used inside a marriage.....outside marriage sex is not permitted so therefore you should not have to be worrying about controling pregnancy before marriage.....if in marriage i believe that it is the couples choice wheather or not to use birth control. there is no real passage in scripture about it. if there is...let me know

 

[Ceccia]

But what if, within marraige, the two people have every intention of keeping the emotional, spiritual, and every other aspect of sex but the finances are tight? They'd have every intention of bonding completely, as God intended rather than just treating it like some cheap thrill. The only difference would be they literally cannot afford to support a baby.

Not only that, but what if they just hate kids? I would rather die than have a child, and R. feels the same way. I don't buy into the theory that God wants us to have kids and is going to show me some kind of great blessing through a child. Children make me want to vomit and always have. To a couple that actually wants them, maybe they are a blessing, but to me--no way. My life is challenging and fulfilling enough without that burden.

Financially, we have just enough to provide for ourselves, certainly not enough to raise a child. We could if we went back for second degrees and/or took jobs we hated working 80 hours a week...but why would we do that? Neither of us has any desire to give our lives to caring for a child. We're perfectly content to care for each other, our cats, and our friends and family, and spend time on things that are important to us.

As far as hormonal BC being sinful or murder...ridiculous. If you state that life begins at conception...the pill prevents ovulation. The egg is onyl half of the potential equation; it's not a "life" by any stretch of the imagination. If there is no egg being released, then there is no potential for creating human life. You can't end something that was never created in the first place.

 

[SoliDeoGloria]

Personally from the principles drawn from Scripture and witness of the entire testimony of Holy Writ, I would subscribe to the traditional Catholic viewpoint that only Natural Family Planning is the ethical way to go (though I am not Catholic).

Yet again I am only human. In an environment where lifestyle is pretty rush-hour and hectic, the quality of life rising and everything else so expensive...to suddenly have so many kids would be very very economically inplausible. I have not enough faith dude.