Your Thoughts Please

[Rasizzle80]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to know your thoughts. I am stuck in my relationship with God on just the forgiveness and acceptance part, and I can't seem to move forward. I can not say with confidence in my head or out loud that I am forgiven and I am a child of God. It feels funny to say "I know I am going to heaven cause I accepted Christ" People know the exact time and date when they received Christ, and i'm still trying to figure out if I did. Can anyone relate? I also wanted to know your thoughts on temptaions and desire. Also, if you ever think of God 24/7 on certain days, and if you feel guilty of trying to think of other things. How do you feel about sinning and constantly falling to temptaion? I feel I got to walk on egg shells and be extra careful which is impossible. Last but not least, out of curiosity is anyone battling OCD and Depression without medication. I know I asked a lot of questions, but any input and thoughts and storys would be greatly appreciated. Thank You

 

[tyield1102]

Hey Rasizzle,
I can relate to just about everything you wrote. My thoughts on temptaions and desires I hate it I wish I wasn't tempted ever or had desires to do anything wrong. I used to think about God 24/7 and now that I don't I think that I don't really belong to Him or believe in Him because of that. I am not on any medications right now due to my pregnancy it has been ok for the most part. I have found that music really helps me with my anxiety and fears. I hope this helped some to know that you are not alone.

Tara

 

[annrobert]

Rasizzle80,
I hope you can soon say with confidence I am forgiven and belong to Jesus,even though feelings try to trip us up.Relax in your Saviour Jesus who is able to save to the uttermost ,He says come to Me all you who are weary and heavy laden and I will give you rest.
John ch5 verse 24,Jesus said,verily verily I say unto you,he that heareth my Word and believeth on Him that sent Me hath everlasting life,and shall not come into condemnation,but has passed from death unto life.This does not mention remembering the day that you believed.We all get tempted and fall into sin sometimes and it hurts us.The only thing to do is to run to Jesus with it.The more we pray to Jesus and rely on the Holy Spirit to keep us safe from sin and to comfort us the easier it is to rest in Jesus and resist sin.The more we study Gods word and pray the stronger we get.The devil wants us to not trust Jesus and to be scared and to not think we are saved but we must cast down these imaginations and bring into captivity every thought to submision to the Word of God.The bible says if we confess our sins Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.I am trying to get this into my heart deep,so I can heal.Jesus is our safety ,always run to Jesus when you are scared or if you have fallen,He will always keep you safe.I was on anti depressants and anti psychotics,but they did not help me at all,and infact made me worse,so I do not take them now.I have been trying to get over feeling unforgivable from backsliding.Yet Jesus is the Way and His Word is true no matter how I feel .He has the words of eternal life.I am learning this and Jesus is helping me.The people on this forum have been a huge inspiration and encouragement for me.They really care and are a lot of help and give great advice.I hope this helps and Jesus Bless You.

 

[arizonasunset]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to know your thoughts. I am stuck in my relationship with God on just the forgiveness and acceptance part, and I can't seem to move forward.

I can not say with confidence in my head or out loud that I am forgiven and I am a child of God.

It feels funny to say "I know I am going to heaven cause I accepted Christ" People know the exact time and date when they received Christ, and i'm still trying to figure out if I did.

are you a new Christian? do you know your identity in Christ? do you warfare? have you started to become the new creation you were predestined to be?

Can anyone relate?

yes. the enemy did not want to loose. it took a lot to experience the freedom in Christ and the obstacles i had to overcome seemed insurmountable. i had to train myself to stand against my thoughts, beliefs, and attitudes which eventually became actions through things i did and what i said. i had to replace it with Truth.

i also had a few close people who were solid in their faith, grounded in Scripture, and in an intimate relationship with the Lord God Almighty.

it took time to overcome.

I feel I got to walk on egg shells and be extra careful which is impossible.

yeah, i understand this. this is not what God desires from us at all. He does not make our Father/daughter or son relationship equivalent to our earthly parents, family, and friends. He also doesn't see us in the same light we see ourselves. We can either be extra hard on ourselves or refuse to see ourselves for what we really are.

for those of us who suffer from depression, ocd, bp, and other things... we are extra hard on ourselves. this also adds into the not feeling your forgiven part.

still though you have to fight through self and re-learn what the enemy has programmed you with. he doesn't want to loose anyone who can be a formidable foe against him.

you must be very special in the sight of God my friend. there obviously is a party of you really seeking the face of the Lord our God.
the more you desire to know God and know Him, the more interferrance and difficulty the enemy is going to give you.

I know I asked a lot of questions, but any input and thoughts and storys would be greatly appreciated. Thank You

i would suggest you pray for people who are grounded in Him, solid in Him, and in a close loving relationship with Him to be given as friends.

He hears and He'll answer.

 

[kaykay9.0]

Only a professional should diagnose OCD, but I can tell you that many, if not most of us here can relate to what you wrote and many times these kind of problems are related to religious OCD. Praying for you~

 

[gracealone]

Hi Rasizzle,
Welcome to the forum.
It's hard to answer your questions without knowing if it's OCD that is causing you to be stuck.
But I can tell you that the symptoms of OCD are getting stuck on a question or a doubt and it's always about something very near and dear to us. And that the compulsive side of the disorder is an intense and constant effort to figure out or solve the question.
And yes I can totally relate as this is what my OCD has driven me to do in the past especially in regard to doubts about my salvation. (I was very young when I recieved Christ and didn't have an exact date to point to either.)
I can tell you that feelings of guilt are a common component of the disorder. That the more we try to fight these accusations and instrusive thoughts the more urgent and frequent they will become which will result in our feeling worse than we did before.
I currently use a very small amount of medication to assist me in doing the management therapy for my OCD but in the past I was able to come out of a very bad flare without medication using regular aerobic exercise, breathing and relaxation techniques. But feeling better is never an overnight thing for me. Even on meds. it's a slow and gradual event marked very often with a trail of two steps forward and one back. So patience and persistence are needed.
There is always a dichotomy with the disorder between the rational mind which can provide all sorts of reasoning and evidential statements as to why we are saved and the area of the brain that is responsible for the instinctual response of fight or flight. In OCD the feelings of anxiety produced by the misfiring in the instinctive brain will trump the rational knowledge. This is what drives us to keep trying to gain a feeling of reassurance.
I've attempted to describe the nature of my own OCD in order that you might be able to discern if OCD might be the cause of your anxiety. But only a physician can diagnose you so if this is really causing you a lot of pain you should seek professional advice.
Praying for you.
Mitzi

Hey everyone, I just wanted to know your thoughts. I am stuck in my relationship with God on just the forgiveness and acceptance part, and I can't seem to move forward. I can not say with confidence in my head or out loud that I am forgiven and I am a child of God. It feels funny to say "I know I am going to heaven cause I accepted Christ" People know the exact time and date when they received Christ, and i'm still trying to figure out if I did. Can anyone relate? I also wanted to know your thoughts on temptaions and desire. Also, if you ever think of God 24/7 on certain days, and if you feel guilty of trying to think of other things. How do you feel about sinning and constantly falling to temptaion? I feel I got to walk on egg shells and be extra careful which is impossible. Last but not least, out of curiosity is anyone battling OCD and Depression without medication. I know I asked a lot of questions, but any input and thoughts and storys would be greatly appreciated. Thank You

 

[BeccaLynn]

I went forward to receive Jesus as my Savior when I was 10. I struggled with meaning it then and understanding what "being saved' even meant, and I have prayed repeatedly since then to be saved. I don't know the exact date or hour it happened, and I still struggle with it actually having happened. But, I just have to trust God and not my feelings. Someone described the feelings like being on a "hamster wheel". That was a perfect analogy for how it can make you feel. Like you're going and going, trying and trying, but getting nowhere. It is about what Jesus has already done for us and accepting it because we can't get there on our own. "Did I really accept Him though?" can be another question that can keep us running in place. God knows our hearts and says that "if your heart condemns you, I am greater than your heart". There are times that I've just told God that if there's anything in me that's not accepted Him, change me. But, I just have to go on with Him I tell Him that I've chosen Him.

Yes, I used to think about Him, or what I thought was the things of God, 24/7. Actually, it was different ways of thinking about the same theme: I was lost from God, why I was lost from God, and if there was anything I could do to change it. It wasn't about God's true nature or positive things. It revolved around God being angry with me and tired of me for not getting it right. So, it really wasn't thinking about God, but mainly thinking about me and my feelings. When I wasn't trying to figure out how to get it right, then I felt I must not care, which would just roll me around more in the "I'm not saved" muck.

I think when we learn more about God's true nature, His actual character, and can relax more in knowing that He unconditionally loves us, it helps us to not be as stressed and to know that He's there for us whether we fall or not. Being a Christian isn't an excuse to sin, but it does mean that, like a loving father, God will pick us up, dust us off, kiss our boo boos if He knows that's what we need, and encourage us along. A loving father doesn't beat a child when he's down or curse at him. I so often pictured God like this. He is not a father like that. The most loving and compassionate father in the world could not match God's love and patience with us. Please try to remember that when you feel like you're walking on egg shells.

Rebecca