Your Thoughts on Creation & Evolution

[Aman777]

Oh, this old game...

Are you actually suggesting that people back then who lived in a desert would have not known that water was required for life? They didn't need a god to tell them that!

And are you suggesting that science shows that the Earth was around before the Big bang? If so, I'd love to see your evidence.

No, chromosome 2 fusion doesn't show that at all. If you disagree, perhaps you'd care to show me a proper scientific source that says this?

No, you have nothing.

Your first point was something people at the time would have easily been able to figure out, your second point is nothing more than cherry picking, and your third point is just a lack of scientific understanding. Nothing you have said supports your claims in any way whatsoever.

I listed God's Holy Word as support for something today's Science is ignorant of. Your dismissal of God's Truth as "nothing" will take a long time to explain. Mat 12:36

 

[Speedwell]

I listed God's Holy Word as support for something today's Science is ignorant of. Your dismissal of God's Truth as "nothing" will take a long time to explain. Mat 12:36

No, it can be done relatively quickly. God's word is not nothing. What you have made of it is nothing.

 

[Aman777]

No, it can be done relatively quickly. God's word is not nothing. What you have made of it is nothing.

Thanks for the opinion of someone of another Religion. Are you ashamed to tell us what it is? I promise not to laugh.

 

[46AND2]

What's an it? Go find a KJV or you will continue to be confused.

Gen 1:21 And God (Trinity) created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their (Trinity) kind, and every winged fowl after His (Jesus) kind: and God (Trinity) saw that it was good.

That isn't the King James Version. That's the Aman version. "Their" and "His" are not capitalized in the KJV. (nor do they refer to the trinity and Jesus, as has been explained to you countless times)

 

[Speedwell]

Thanks for the opinion of someone of another Religion. Are you ashamed to tell us what it is? I promise not to laugh.

No, I'm not ashamed of it. I'm an Anglican. I don't put it up because many creationists are offended by having to discuss anything with someone they commonly think of as a "Bible-hating, Christ-denying commie." I don't care if you laugh or not. I feel that I am right with the Lord.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

What's an it? Go find a KJV or you will continue to be confused.

Gen 1:21 And God (Trinity) created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their (Trinity) kind, and every winged fowl after His (Jesus) kind: and God (Trinity) saw that it was good.

Don't you know that there are two "kinds"? One is a temporary creation made from the air, dust and water which were contaminated with DEATH/darkness, in the beginning? Genesis 1:2 The other kind (Their kind) is an ETERNAL Creation by God the invisible Spirit of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Your theology is so far from what is actually written, you refer to God the Trinity as "its".



In your dreams. Notice that winged fowl is His kind. God the Father is simply telling Jesus the Son (Lord God) that the "living" creatures He created the 5th Day are identical to ones (birds) which Jesus made the next Day and Adam named. Genesis 2:19 Don't you know that God can see the end from the beginning and vice versa? Isa 46:10 Is the God in your mind limited to today?

Your refute is proven wrong or refuted by the verses above in blue. Try again?

Have it your own way - you refute yourself by claiming different kinds produced by different gods at different times. That's contrary to your claim that all animals came from water and contrary to what science has found - so claim still refuted. Whichever way you go, your claim is refuted.

I've also previously refuted your nonsense about his/its/their kinds. And you really need to start including her kind. Why do you never mention her kind?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Sure. Lake Van varies in depth because it is an enclosed Lake, with no outlet. When it rains a lot it gets deeper and when it doesn't rain, it gets lower. Since the depth of the Lake is some 1500 ft deep, 100m lower doesn't dry up the 75 mile wide Lake.

In order to find the miles wide bottom of Adam's firmament, the Lake must be drilled in every square mile or two. The results must then be assorted to see what the boundary of Adam's solid Universe was made of. It's material from another world.

So now you want to change your claim that it's in the northern part? Is that really how solid your case is?

Now tell us how big Adam's earth was and where you get that measurement from.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

That's WHY no one can refute His Truth.

You're right. But nobody is talking about God's truth. Aman's Truth (TM) gets refuted every time it rears its ugly head.

 

[Kylie]

I listed God's Holy Word as support for something today's Science is ignorant of. Your dismissal of God's Truth as "nothing" will take a long time to explain. Mat 12:36

I do hope you will actually explain it. Can you tell me why each of my counterpoints is wrong?

 

[pitabread]

Sorry, but sticks with holes, which MIGHT have been played by prehistoric people, do not count.

"Sticks with holes"? Is this the first time you've heard of a flute?

For the record, prehistoric flutes are typically made from bones and there are a number of examples of such instruments going back tens of thousands of years (see here: Paleolithic flutes - Wikipedia). Like it or not, humans appear to have a long musical history including flute/pipe type instruments.

I guess this is just something else that doesn't fit your narrative of Earth's history.

 

[pitabread]

False accusation which is shown by the Scriptural fact that Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven, was made the 2nd Day by God the Trinity.

What scientific support is there for this again? Oh wait there isn't any. So much for agreement between the Bible and science.

The fact that you cannot understand Scripture is caused your own free will to reject God's Holy Word in favor of man's knowledge.

You're the one that keeps claiming that the Bible and science agree, yet this a perfect example where that isn't the case. There is no scientific support for what you claimed in the above post.

Which goes back to your modus operandi; you claim stuff agrees until it doesn't, then you make stuff up.

Your claim that science, the Bible, etc, all agree is clearly false. False witness, a violation of your god's commandments. Something to think about.

 

[Speedwell]

What scientific support is there for this again? Oh wait there isn't any. So much for agreement between the Bible and science.



You're the one that keeps claiming that the Bible and science agree, yet this a perfect example where that isn't the case. There is no scientific support for what you claimed in the above post.

Which goes back to your modus operandi; you claim stuff agrees until it doesn't, then you make stuff up.

Your claim that science, the Bible, etc, all agree is clearly false. False witness, a violation of your god's commandments. Something to think about.

There isn't even any biblical support for it.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

What scientific support is there for this again? Oh wait there isn't any. So much for agreement between the Bible and science.

You're the one that keeps claiming that the Bible and science agree, yet this a perfect example where that isn't the case. There is no scientific support for what you claimed in the above post.

Which goes back to your modus operandi; you claim stuff agrees until it doesn't, then you make stuff up.

Your claim that science, the Bible, etc, all agree is clearly false. False witness, a violation of your god's commandments. Something to think about.

Surely 7 days and 13.8 billion years are close enough?

 

[Aman777]

That isn't the King James Version. That's the Aman version. "Their" and "His" are not capitalized in the KJV. (nor do they refer to the trinity and Jesus, as has been explained to you countless times)

We are so fortunate to have you on this thread. In your view, please tell us what His and Their means. I can hardly wait.

 

[Aman777]

No, I'm not ashamed of it. I'm an Anglican. I don't put it up because many creationists are offended by having to discuss anything with someone they commonly think of as a "Bible-hating, Christ-denying commie." I don't care if you laugh or not. I feel that I am right with the Lord.

Since Christ is the Judge and not me, I think of you as a brother.

 

[Aman777]

Have it your own way - you refute yourself by claiming different kinds produced by different gods at different times. That's contrary to your claim that all animals came from water and contrary to what science has found - so claim still refuted. Whichever way you go, your claim is refuted.

God the Trinity creates only 3 times in Genesis and it's always an eternal creation, destined for Heaven. Lord God (YHWH or Jesus) creates temporarily and the kind Jesus made with His own Hands is subject to death. Lord God made Adam. Genesis 2:4-7

I've also previously refuted your nonsense about his/its/their kinds. And you really need to start including her kind. Why do you never mention her kind?

Because there are some misguided comedians who don't know that storks and herons have "her" kind or the kind mothers always have. Storks and Herons have her kind, but that doesn't mean what you wish it would mean. Neither are Creators in Genesis one.

I think I will begin counting how many times I have refuted your views. So far, all you have offered, has been soundly refuted. Try again?

 

[Aman777]

So now you want to change your claim that it's in the northern part? Is that really how solid your case is?

I was simply showing that a "miles wide" Biosphere could be in the Northern portion of the Lake since it is 8-10 miles wide. Whether of not it was filled with water doesn't matter. Does it?

Now tell us how big Adam's earth was and where you get that measurement from.

Sure. Adam's entire flat Earth had only 4 Rivers. Texas has almost 4k Rivers. Mathematically, this means that Adam's Earth was .001 the size of the State of Texas. BTW, ALL 4 Rivers came from the same source. Can you tell us WHERE they all began?

 

[Aman777]

You're right. But nobody is talking about God's truth. Aman's Truth (TM) gets refuted every time it rears its ugly head.

LOL. My head is nicely tanned after a very hot summer, thank you.

 

[Aman777]

I do hope you will actually explain it. Can you tell me why each of my counterpoints is wrong?

Sure.
Kylie said: ↑
Oh, this old game...

Are you actually suggesting that people back then who lived in a desert would have not known that water was required for life? They didn't need a god to tell them that![/QUOTE]

Can you tell us WHY it took Science until 2016 to find out the same thing God told us in Genesis more than 3k years ago?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com › smart-news › behold-luca-last-universa...Jul 26, 2016

And are you suggesting that science shows that the Earth was around before the Big bang? If so, I'd love to see your evidence.

Sure. It's at the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey under 11k years of volcanic debris. Noah walked down from the mile high Lake into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia, the Cradle of Human Civilization on this Planet. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

No, chromosome 2 fusion doesn't show that at all. If you disagree, perhaps you'd care to show me a proper scientific source that says this?

Sure.
https://www.nature.com › news
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Scientifically, the Neanderthal married a ancient group of Denisomes who was before them. This causes the chromosome 2 to fuse. It's why every Human has this trait today. The SAME thing happened 11k years ago when the Ark arrived bringing the OLDEST, most ancient Humans who had NO other Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they married and had children with the prehistoric people who had been here for millions of years before the Ark arrived. Genesis 6:4

No, you have nothing.

Your first point was something people at the time would have easily been able to figure out,

Then why did it take 3k years for Science to find out what is written in Genesis?

No, you have nothing.your second point is nothing more than cherry picking, and your third point is just a lack of scientific understanding. Nothing you have said supports your claims in any way whatsoever.

Projecting your uneducated view upon me is not allowed. All I can say is that you seriously need more study.

 

[Aman777]

"Sticks with holes"? Is this the first time you've heard of a flute?

For the record, prehistoric flutes are typically made from bones and there are a number of examples of such instruments going back tens of thousands of years (see here: Paleolithic flutes - Wikipedia). Like it or not, humans appear to have a long musical history including flute/pipe type instruments.

I guess this is just something else that doesn't fit your narrative of Earth's history.

Sure it does. Finding a bone with a hole in it, is recognized as a "flute" only by the most naive among us. Tell them they can find many "flutes" in Chimpanzee territory. Such foolishness is NOT a trait of Humanity, no matter how low you sink. Genesis 4:17-22 tells of the modern technology of Adam's Earth with little or NO magic evolution. Noah brought the superior intelligence of Adam to this Earth.