Your Thoughts on Creation & Evolution

[Aman777]

If you think that you can disprove evolution, then you apparently DON'T know it enough. People with greater understand than you of evolution have failed to prove that evolution is wrong.

And if you think evolution is a religion then you REALLY don't know enough about evolution to claim you know enough to know it is wrong.

False, since I believe that the discovery of the bottom of Adam's firmament will soon be announced. That event will totally destroy the false assumptions of the ToE since it will confirm God's Truth of the flood, which brought Humanity to this valley of the shadow of death. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Be aware that statements like this break the forum guidelines:

"...science cannot be called a religion"
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I don't call Science a Religion, only false assumptions like the ToE, which is NOT fact, but the changeable consensus of people who have been forced to believe in evolution since they were children. Science can be repeated but Theories are assumptions of fact which cannot be shown scientifically, so they are made up. Want to see?

 

[pitabread]

I could follow what God did. He told the complete History of the creation, including future events, more than 3k years ago, in the first 34 verses of Genesis.

If it's complete, then why do you keep adding to it by making up a bunch of extra-Biblical stories?

 

[pitabread]

I don't call Science a Religion, only false assumptions like the ToE, which is NOT fact, but the changeable consensus of people who have been forced to believe in evolution since they were children. Science can be repeated but Theories are assumptions of fact which cannot be shown scientifically, so they are made up. Want to see?

Evolution is part of the science of biology. That's just a fact. If you keep calling it a religion, then you are violating the guidelines of these forums.

 

[JackRT]

Science can be repeated but Theories are assumptions of fact which cannot be shown scientifically, so they are made up.

In this self contradictory statement you reveal that you are quite ignorant as to how the scientific method actually works. In science theory is as good as it gets. In the case of the ToE, people have tried for 160 years to find cracks in the theory without success. This makes the ToE a very robust theory but still just a theory. All you need is just one solid piece of evidence and the theory is toast. Go for it.

 

[Aman777]

In this self contradictory statement you reveal that you are quite ignorant as to how the scientific method actually works. In science theory is as good as it gets. In the case of the ToE, people have tried for 160 years to find cracks in the theory without success. This makes the ToE a very robust theory but still just a theory. All you need is just one solid piece of evidence and the theory is toast. Go for it.

Sure. Tell us how and when God's superior intelligence, which is the highest in creation, was inserted into ANY creature which descended from Water, please.

 

[Aman777]

If it's complete, then why do you keep adding to it by making up a bunch of extra-Biblical stories?

Genesis 1:1 to Genesis 2:3 is the entire History of the creation including events which happen AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon. These are FUTURE events, which happen at the end of the present 6th Day/Age in the creation of the perfect Heaven. Genesis 1:28-31

You can refute this statement by telling us of a time in History when mankind (Adam) had dominion or rule over viruses, mosquitoes, and Polar Bears. Also, tell us of ANY time in the past when EVERY creature was a vegetarian. Genesis 1:30 You cannot because these events haven't happened yet and won't until Jesus returns and the Lion lays down by the Lamb and Lions eat straw like the Ox. Isaiah 11:7

 

[pitabread]

enesis 1:1 to Genesis 2:3 is the entire History of the creation including events which happen AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon. These are FUTURE events, which happen at the end of the present 6th Day/Age in the creation of the perfect Heaven. Genesis 1:28-31

You do have a unique interpretation of the Bible, I'll give you that.

 

[Aman777]

You do have a unique interpretation of the Bible, I'll give you that.

Thanks. When they discover the bottom half of Adam's firmament in Lake Van, Turkey, you will probably make a find spokesman for God's Truth.

 

[JackRT]

Sure. Tell us how and when God's superior intelligence, which is the highest in creation, was inserted into ANY creature which descended from Water, please.

Water is a simple inorganic compound. So, you believe in abiogenesis?

 

[pitabread]

Thanks. When they discover the bottom half of Adam's firmament in Lake Van, Turkey, you will probably make a find spokesman for God's Truth.

That's quite the loaded statement. But I wouldn't count on any of those things happening in yours or my lifetime.

 

[Brightmoon]

I don't call Science a Religion, only false assumptions like the ToE, which is NOT fact, but the changeable consensus of people who have been forced to believe in evolution since they were children. Science can be repeated but Theories are assumptions of fact which cannot be shown scientifically, so they are made up. Want to see?

since evolution can be directly observed why do you keep making this silly claim? No one forced me specifically, to “ believe “ in evolution. I saw several mammal forelimb bones of different species when I was in elementary school and understood that they were related. I also understood that if humans were vertebrates and mammals that we had to be animals . I figured that out at age 8 . Common descent is so blatantly obvious that an elementary school child figured it out by herself. I also had a family that didn’t insist (on pain of punishment,) that allegorical Bible stories were an accurate history .

 

[Kylie]

False, since I believe that the discovery of the bottom of Adam's firmament will soon be announced. That event will totally destroy the false assumptions of the ToE since it will confirm God's Truth of the flood, which brought Humanity to this valley of the shadow of death. Amen?

Uh, no.

You can't declare something is false because of something you think will soon be announced.

When it actually happens, that's fine, bring it up then and we can talk. Until then, it's just your wishful thinking and it doesn't disprove anything.

 

[Shemjaza]

False, since I believe that the discovery of the bottom of Adam's firmament will soon be announced. That event will totally destroy the false assumptions of the ToE since it will confirm God's Truth of the flood, which brought Humanity to this valley of the shadow of death. Amen?

The problem is even if we discover the vast wreck of a 10 thousand year old tiny flat Earth it wouldn't break all the evidence for evolution and it still wouldn't demonstrate that all of humanity was descended from a mix of stone age Homo sapiens and 8 superior Middle Eastern refugees.

(It would probably be better evidence for weird Von Danican ancient aliens stuff.)

 

[Colter]

The Israelites were guessing when they invented the creation story of Genesis. The flood was about establishing their authority as "Gods chosen people".

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Thanks. When they discover the bottom half of Adam's firmament in Lake Van, Turkey, you will probably make a find spokesman for God's Truth.

You do know that they've mapped Lake Van, right? They first mapped it in the 1950s. They haven't found any evidence of a firmament. So that's yet another evidence against your unique, unsupportable claims.

Queue the handwaving or change of subject....

 

[Aman777]

Water is a simple inorganic compound. So, you believe in abiogenesis?

Sure but it was compounded in the heart of Stars which blew up and handled the compounding. Abiogenesis requires air, dust and water to be present. Where did the air, dust and water come from to begin with? Genesis 1:1

 

[Aman777]

That's quite the loaded statement. But I wouldn't count on any of those things happening in yours or my lifetime.

You could be one of the only people to tell others how some nut job creationist gave you the details from Genesis, long BEFORE they found the firmament. It will happen within my lifetime since I will never die. I'll leave this Earth but I will never die.

 

[Aman777]

since evolution can be directly observed why do you keep making this silly claim? No one forced me specifically, to “ believe “ in evolution. I saw several mammal forelimb bones of different species when I was in elementary school and understood that they were related. I also understood that if humans were vertebrates and mammals that we had to be animals . I figured that out at age 8 . Common descent is so blatantly obvious that an elementary school child figured it out by herself. I also had a family that didn’t insist (on pain of punishment,) that allegorical Bible stories were an accurate history .

Show us evidence that creatures which evolved from the common ancestor of Apes obtained their superior intelligence from mindless nature and billions of random postive mutations. Only God and Adam have that superior intelligence. Genesis 3:22 If you don't believe me, then show us a more intelligent creature alive today, than Humans. (descendants of Adam)

Remember that Adam was NOT made in flesh until some 12k years ago. Until then he lived in a perfect body like that of Jesus.

 

[Aman777]

Uh, no.

You can't declare something is false because of something you think will soon be announced.

When it actually happens, that's fine, bring it up then and we can talk. Until then, it's just your wishful thinking and it doesn't disprove anything.

Sure, it's okay for evolutionists to proclaim that mindless Nature put the superior intelligence of God into Apes but not okay for me to tell you God's Truth. Refute me.