i think its only pastors/bishops. It doesn't say for deacons.
Because it does specify what a bishops' wife ought to be like as well, otherwise it wouldn't say anything.
I could explore scripture on that and get back to this thread..but does say for a bishop I recall that he must be able to rule his own household, there's no household to speak of if he's just alone and single.
Yes well its both really but our pastor is the one who preaches in the pulpit, the deacons dont have this role, and hes the one who oversees everyone i.e. Hes the voice and literally sees everyone who gathers in services. The deacons are elders who team with the pastor. In our baptist church there are three.
They have a say on the day to day running of the church and pray and support the pastor and make decisions on the churches welfare. Elders are more behind the scenes. The pastor literally has an office. The elders dont really.
Another thing is, well in our baptist church our pastor is called reverend. Not that we call him this but he is ordained so is actually given this honor, the bible days those in this role are given double honor, so even though we just call him by his first name in our actions we are meant to give him reverence. I think that just means we put him first as hes the one whos looking after us. So we pray he has Gods word to speak and pray for his family etc.
Note..first definition...a manI see what you mean. The greek is here
ἐπίσκοπος,n \{ep-is'-kop-os}
1) an overseer 1a) a man charged with the duty of seeing that things to be done by others are done rightly, any curator, guardian or superintendent 1b) the superintendent, elder, or overseer of a Christian church
In the Baptist Church, at least ours, the "overseer" isn't technically the pastor, but is the Board of Deacons collectively. I know this isn't the case with a lot of churches, but just pointing out that those that oversee the church aren't always the lone pastoral position.
Yes so I'm wondering how this youth pastor is going to get by if her husband doesn't have a job. That's all.
your double standard is that you go against the bible in supporting that women can have authority over men. In positions of pastor, a woman in that role would be violating scripture as she is being head over men and even her husband as pastors DO teach when they preach. And most congegations have men in them.
But then you say women are better nuturers and that you earn the most money so your wife can quit her job to be the one looking after the children.
Not really getting this conflicting thinking. But then I suppose since your brought up in single parent household with mum as like the head of the household then...that sort of explains it. You didn't have a father figure.
Jesus is the head of the church, and then it goes man, then women then children.
You wouldn't have children go up and preach to their mums would you.
You wouldn't have women go and preach to their husbands.
That's just the wrong way round. The point is order in the church. And pastors are not meant to be 'hired hands' they are meant to be called to be servants of others. If you think pastors are just hired hands then...I think something is awry in your church.
I'm sorry you don't really make much sense at all. I mean half of what you say is true and then the other half is just a bit weird and doesn't line up with the bible. Sorry.
Well, i dont know about your marriage but shes the one who quit her job it had to be her decision...when you resign from a job its not like you both wrote a resignation letter. I know once couple the husband retired and so convinced hiswife to retire too even though she didnt want to, she submitted to his will. But that was an unqually yoked marriage. Hes not a believer.I would assume by living with their inlaws. I know a few children and youth ministers who over the years shacked up with either their parents or in laws to make ends meet.
I don't think pastors have any "authority" over anyone, so I don't see a double standard at all. They are simply servants with a specific role, and Christ is the authority over the church, not man (or woman). I say my wife can quit work for a few years because it's a decision WE both made together, not something I am chauvinistically "permitting" her to do. Woman are better nurturers, wouldn't you agree?
My uncle and grandfather were both the major male influences over my young development, but you're right, since Dad only came around twice a year I didn't get the day in - day out father role...which I feel now, as an adult, is vital to healthy child development as long as both the parents are grounded in Christ, that the marriage is founded on love and God, which will teach the child what real love vs worldly love looks like.
I wish I could say that about my pastor growing up, but I never really saw love between him and his wife in public.
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