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Your A Believer IF, A Hypocrite IF not

Discussion in 'Exposition & Bible Study' started by Brotherbrown, Jul 3, 2008.

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  1. Brotherbrown

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    YOUR A CHRISTIAN IF? A HYPOCRITE IF NOT
    I Jn 5:14
    14 Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.
    Rom 6:7-10
    7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.
    8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
    9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.
    10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
    Heb 3:6
    6 but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end.
    John 8:31
    31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
    John 15:7
    7"If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.
    Eph 4:21
    21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
    I Jn 1:8-10
    8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
    I Jn 2:24
    24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father.
    John 15:10-14
    10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
    11 "These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full.
    12 "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
    13 "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
    14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
    II Jn 1:9-11
    9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
    10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
    11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
    I Jn 2:28-29
    28 And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.
    29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.
    I Jn 2:4
    4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    I Jn 2:3
    3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
    I Jn 2:5
    5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
    Mark 9:23
    23 Jesus said to him, "If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes."
    Mark 8:34-35
    34 When He had called the people to Himself, with His disciples also, He said to them, "Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.
    35 "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel's will save it.
    John 13:37-38
    37 Peter said to Him, "Lord, why can I not follow You now? I will lay down my life for Your sake."
    38 Jesus answered him, "Will you lay down your life for My sake? Most assuredly, I say to you, the rooster shall not crow till you have denied Me three times.
    Matt 5:20
    20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
    Mark 7:5-7
    5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?"
    6 He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.
    7 And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
    Mark 7:14-16
    14 When He had called all the multitude to Himself, He said to them, "Hear Me, everyone, and understand:
    15 "There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that defile a man.
    16 "If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!"
    Mark 7:21-23
    21 "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
    22 "thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness.
    23 "All these evil things come from within and defile a man."
    Rom 4:14
    14 For if those who are of the law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect,
    2 Cor 5:3
    3 if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked.
    Eph 4:21
    21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
    Col 1:23
    23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.
    1 Pet 2:3
    3 if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
    Gal 6:7
    7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
    Matt 12:33-34
    33 "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit.
    34 "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
    Matt 12:36-37
    36 "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
    37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
    I Jn 4:2
    2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
    I Jn 4:15
    15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
    (NKJ)
    xxx There are many If's in the bible. And they are all important. Confess means to agree fully. If you agree fully that Jesus is the Son of God then God abides in you. If you believe that Jesus is someone other than the Son of God then you cant confess . If you think Jesus is God then you cant confess. If you say you have salvation and dont keep the commandments the bible says thats a lie.
    I Jn 2:4
    4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    (NKJ)
    I Jn 2:3
    3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
    (NKJ)
    Luke 1:50
    50 And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
    (NKJ)
    Gal 5:24-25
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
    (NKJ)
    1 Cor 15:1-2
    1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
    2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
    (KJV)

















     
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  2. A Brother In Christ

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    So all believer are in God's will?.... romans 13:11-14? 1 Jn 1:8-10
    Just like Abraham... romans 4:17-22 Yet God just counts it to be true... but was he... Gen 15:8 He doubted ... this is grace!

    Who abides in JC? according to 1 jn 2:14 only a young man and Father 's abide... this is due to maturity

    Children and young learner are still wrestleing with scripture thus cannot abide
    The full is talking about the grace that God talks about us to the Father this is finally able to access the riches of Christ

    2 cor 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

    Phil 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that HE which hath begun a good work in YOU will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ!

    Guess I like were God says what He will DO! ..... Future salvation

    and I like the IF's for present tense salvation
     
  3. Brotherbrown

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    This one I dont even understand what your saying.
     
  4. A Brother In Christ

    A Brother In Christ Senior Veteran

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    ask a question ...
     
  5. dayhiker

    dayhiker Mature veteran

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    I think its pretty simple .. your a Christian if you love Jesus.
     
  6. A Brother In Christ

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    How does one love Christ ....verse please
    How does one love the Father... verse please
     
  7. Brotherbrown

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    John 14:15-16
    15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
    16 "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever--
    (NKJ)
    John 14:24
    24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
    (NKJ)
    John 14:26
    26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
    (NKJ)
     
  8. A Brother In Christ

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    what commandments.... verses
     
  9. Brotherbrown

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    COMMANDS US (RULE, LAW, ORDER)
    John 15:10
    10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
    John 14:21
    21 "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."
    Matt 4:4
    4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
    Matt 28:20
    20 "teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.
    Matt 24:35
    35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
    I Jn 2:3
    3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
    I Jn 5:3
    3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
    II Th 3:4
    4 And we have confidence in the Lord concerning you, both that you do and will do the things we command you.
    John 15:14
    14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
    1 Tim 4:11
    11 These things command and teach.
    1 Cor 7:10
    10 Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband.
    Matt 28:20
    20 "teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.
    Heb 13:8
    8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
    Phile 1:21
    21 Having confidence in your obedience, I write to you, knowing that you will do even more than I say.
    Matt 5:20
    20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
    John 15:10
    10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
    Acts 17:30
    30 "Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,
    II Jn 1:5-6
    5 And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another.
    6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
    Matt 19:17-21
    17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
    18 He said to Him, "Which ones?" Jesus said," 'You shall not murder,' 'You shall not commit adultery,' 'You shall not steal,' 'You shall not bear false witness,'
    19 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'"
    20 The young man said to Him, "All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?"
    21 Jesus said to him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."
    Rom 13:9
    9 For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not bear false witness," "You shall not covet," and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
    Matt 22:37-40
    37 Jesus said to him," 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
    38 "This is the first and great commandment.
    39 "And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
    40 "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
    John 13:34-38
    34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
    35 "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."
    36 Simon Peter said to Him, "Lord, where are You going?" Jesus answered him, "Where I am going you cannot follow Me now, but you shall follow Me afterward."
    37 Peter said to Him, "Lord, why can I not follow You now? I will lay down my life for Your sake."
    38 Jesus answered him, "Will you lay down your life for My sake? Most assuredly, I say to you, the rooster shall not crow till you have denied Me three times.
    Matt 5:19
    19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    I Jn 4:20-21
    20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?
    21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
    John 14:21
    21 "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."
    John 15:17
    17 "These things I command you, that you love one another.
    I Jn 2:4
    4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    I Jn 2:3
    3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
    James 1:12-15
    12 Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
    13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.
    14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
    15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.
    James 1:22-24
    22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
    23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror;
    24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
    James 1:25
    25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
    James 2:17
    17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
    James 2:20
    20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
    James 2:26
    26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
    1 Tim 6:12
    12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
    1 Tim 6:14-16
    14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing,
    15 which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
    16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.
    James 2:12
    12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.
    Rom 8:2
    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
    Rom 8:1
    1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
    I Jn 5:3-4
    3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
    4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world-- our faith.
    Acts 1:1-3
    1 The former account I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
    2 until the day in which He was taken up, after He through the Holy Spirit had given commandments to the apostles whom He had chosen,
    3 to whom He also presented Himself alive after His suffering by many infallible proofs, being seen by them during forty days and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God.
    I Jn 3:20-24
    20 For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.
    21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God.
    22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
    23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
    24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
    Rev 22:14
    14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
    (NKJ)
    xxxEverything Jesus says to do is a commandment to do it. And everything Jesus says not to do is a commandment not to do it.













     
  10. artybloke

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    Is this one of those "you're a Christian if you agree with my interpretation of these verses I've just scissored from the Bible and taken entirely out of context and made up my own theology"

    threads

    or is there some other point to it?
     
  11. BobW188

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    I am a believer and a hypocrite. Like most of us.
     
  12. Brotherbrown

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    Everyone goes through the milk understanding of the Word. Then they come to the meat understanding hopefully. But some go on to the revelations of Jesus christ that Paul spoke of. And if they get there, they are suppose to share them with others. I'm just doing my sharing.

    Heb 5:12-6:3
    12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
    13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
    14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
    CHAPTER 6
    1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
    2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
    3 And this we will do if God permits.
    (NKJ)
     
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