LDS Young Mormon Children Are Taught This

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The Young Woman's Journal was an lds publication in 1892, was it not? It seemed right for your church to quote Huntington in one of its articles. In the JoD, Young himself claimed that his sermons should be considered scripture and, in this instance, he was speaking in his role as a prophet regardless if it was his personal opinion or not.

It's not about what you believe about their statements now. It's about what was being taught and believed back when they were made. Such careless, ignorant, and untrue statements, as personal opinion or official declaration, should disqualify any so-called prophet from such a position. Kool-aid anyone??
So you don't believe that prophets of God are fallible? You don't believe they should have their own opinion about anything? You don't believe that any of them have ever sinned? That would be true if Jesus Christ was the only prophet of God that ever lived, but He wasn't. Prophesy from God is not personal opinion. The Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price are books of scripture and revelation from God. Neither the Apocrypha or the Journal of Discourses are considered to be scripture.
 
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So you don't believe that prophets of God are fallible? You don't believe they should have their own opinion about anything? You don't believe that any of them have ever sinned? That would be true if Jesus Christ was the only prophet of God that ever lived, but He wasn't. Prophesy from God is not personal opinion. The Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price are books of scripture and revelation from God. Neither the Apocrypha or the Journal of Discourses are considered to be scripture.
Do you admit that your church endorses false teachings by publishing false information like this?
 
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Do you admit that your church endorses false teachings by publishing false information like this?
Just like the Apocrypha, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints does not use the Journal of Discourses for the establishment of doctrine.

"The seven books which comprise the Protestant Apocrypha, first published as such in Luther's Bible (1534) are considered canonical Old Testament books by the Catholic Church, affirmed by the Council of Rome (AD 382) and later reaffirmed by the Council of Trent; they are also considered canonical by the Eastern Orthodox Church and are referred to as anagignoskomena per the Synod of Jerusalem. The Anglican Communion accepts "the Apocrypha for instruction in life and manners, but not for the establishment of doctrine" (Article VI in the Thirty-Nine Articles)",[9] and many "lectionary readings in The Book of Common Prayer are taken from the Apocrypha", with these lessons being "read in the same ways as those from the Old Testament".[10] The first Methodist liturgical book, The Sunday Service of the Methodists, employs verses from the Apocrypha, such as in the Eucharistic liturgy.[11] The Protestant Apocrypha contains three books (3 Esdras, 4 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasseh) that are accepted by many Eastern Orthodox Churches and Oriental Orthodox Churches as canonical, but are regarded as non-canonical by the Catholic Church and are therefore not included in modern Catholic Bibles.[12]
From: Biblical apocrypha - Wikipedia
 
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Just like the Apocrypha, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints does not use the Journal of Discourses for the establishment of doctrine.

"The seven books which comprise the Protestant Apocrypha, first published as such in Luther's Bible (1534) are considered canonical Old Testament books by the Catholic Church, affirmed by the Council of Rome (AD 382) and later reaffirmed by the Council of Trent; they are also considered canonical by the Eastern Orthodox Church and are referred to as anagignoskomena per the Synod of Jerusalem. The Anglican Communion accepts "the Apocrypha for instruction in life and manners, but not for the establishment of doctrine" (Article VI in the Thirty-Nine Articles)",[9] and many "lectionary readings in The Book of Common Prayer are taken from the Apocrypha", with these lessons being "read in the same ways as those from the Old Testament".[10] The first Methodist liturgical book, The Sunday Service of the Methodists, employs verses from the Apocrypha, such as in the Eucharistic liturgy.[11] The Protestant Apocrypha contains three books (3 Esdras, 4 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasseh) that are accepted by many Eastern Orthodox Churches and Oriental Orthodox Churches as canonical, but are regarded as non-canonical by the Catholic Church and are therefore not included in modern Catholic Bibles.[12]
From: Biblical apocrypha - Wikipedia
Thanks for the rabbit hole. I never mentioned establishment of doctrine. In its teaching material, the LDS are known to include material from non-doctrinal sources like the JoD, McConkie's book Mormon Doctrine, etc.

Will you answer the question or will you continue to try to create further distractions to avoid giving a direct response?
Do you admit that your church endorses false teachings by publishing false information like this?
 
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We have been over this many times. People have distorted the and very opinionated view of what the Bible states. The Bible states that God formed the worlds:

(Old Testament | Psalms 90:2)

2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

(Old Testament | Proverbs 26:10)

10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.



How does you response answer anything I said??

Teaching commandments does not equal to serving the same God. Your god is a man that became a god. Your god had a grandfather---a great-grandfather.....a great-great-great-great…….grandfather!!!
The Christian Heavenly Father has no Father, was never human, and never became God---He always was God. There is no other God but Him, in this universe or any other universe!! He alone is God and He is one with the Son and Holy Spirit. You son is not the same Son as the Christian God's Son. Ours was fully God before He became God, the Christian Son created everything, from nothing---including Lucifer. Your son is totally different, and is one of many. And it is the Christian God the Son that saves---no other. You are welcome to keep all the commandments---it will get you nowhere for you break a commandment with your believes and if you break one--you break them all.
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
 
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Thanks for the rabbit hole. I never mentioned establishment of doctrine. In its teaching material, the LDS are known to include material from non-doctrinal sources like the JoD, McConkie's book Mormon Doctrine, etc.

Will you answer the question or will you continue to try to create further distractions to avoid giving a direct response?
Will you admit that your church endorses false teachings?
 
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Will you admit that your church endorses false teachings?


Do you admit that your church endorses false teachings by publishing false information like this?
 
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If you are not going to admit that your church endorses false teachings, neither am I.
So you're taking your ball and going home then? Now there's great maturity and debate skills on display. :doh:

Evidence was presented about your church publishing, and thereby endorsing, false teachings. You have presented no such evidence for my church, nor anyone's else's place of worship, to be making such a blatantly unfounded statement.
 
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So you don't believe that prophets of God are fallible? You don't believe they should have their own opinion about anything? You don't believe that any of them have ever sinned? That would be true if Jesus Christ was the only prophet of God that ever lived, but He wasn't. Prophesy from God is not personal opinion. The Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price are books of scripture and revelation from God. Neither the Apocrypha or the Journal of Discourses are considered to be scripture.

Your church uses multiple manuals for teaching. They aren't scripture.
 
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