you'll hate this thread, I guarantee it. (2)

[benedictaoo]

yes, I'm well aware of how the Catholic Church justifies their stance on this. That's the point.

which is just linguistic games to call an apple an orange.

no, of course not. I could no more convince you of that, than I could convince a bird that swimming is better than flying.

I don't know. you took it there. and you are using a false dichotomy. I never said that sin isn't sin. I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.

scriptural premise.

Okaie dokie... you realize that you have no rational bases to justify your aversion to praying something that is pre written? Right?

You have haven't offered me any valid reason why it would be a sin for you... you haven't even explained why it would be a sin, what sin it even is...

 

[Uphill Battle]

Okaie dokie... you realize that you have no rational bases to justify your aversion to praying something that is pre written? Right?

You have haven't offered me any valid reason why it would be a sin for you... you haven't even explained why it would be a sin, what sin it even is...

I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.


here. This will help.

http://www.spectacleworld.co.za/eyetest.htm

 

[Philothei]

I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.


here. This will help.

http://www.spectacleworld.co.za/eyetest.htm

This is according to who?? where do you get authority to say whose worship is "fake" and whose is not?

You are putting a judgment on someone else that you can be judged also ...so what is your point?

Why should we worship in a "creative" way (that is not in the Bible....BTW) and not the way it was handed down to us by the Apostles? and in the Tradition of the early Church? You still have not present any proof why the way you want (individually) to worship is valid....

 

[Philothei]

I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.


here. This will help.

http://www.spectacleworld.co.za/eyetest.htm

This is according to who?? where do you get authority to say whose worship is "fake" and whose is not?

You are putting a judgment on someone else that you can be judged also ...so what is your point?

Why should we worship in a "creative" way (that is not in the Bible....BTW) and not the way it was handed down to us by the Apostles? and in the Tradition of the early Church? You still have not present any proof why the way you want (individually) to worship is valid....

 

[Rick Otto]

the way it was handed down to us by the Apostles

hearsay?

 

[Rick Otto]

the way it was handed down to us by the Apostles

hearsay?

 

[Rick Otto]

the way it was handed down to us by the Apostles

hearsay?

Where does one 'get the authority' to ask anyone where they get their authority?

 

[Uphill Battle]

This is according to who?? where do you get authority to say whose worship is "fake" and whose is not?

You are putting a judgment on someone else that you can be judged also ...so what is your point?

Why should we worship in a "creative" way (that is not in the Bible....BTW) and not the way it was handed down to us by the Apostles? and in the Tradition of the early Church? You still have not present any proof why the way you want (individually) to worship is valid....

holy hannah. is NOBODY able to see the point?

I am not talking about YOU.

I'm talking about ME.

it would be sinful for ME to participate in worship that was false for me.

if you are able to worship in genuine fashion, saying the same things time and time again, good for YOU. I cannot, so do not.

 

[Montalban]

holy hannah. is NOBODY able to see the point?

I am not talking about YOU.

I'm talking about ME.

it would be sinful for ME to participate in worship that was false for me.

if you are able to worship in genuine fashion, saying the same things time and time again, good for YOU. I cannot, so do not.

That's the problem; it's all about you!

 

[Montalban]

hearsay?

Where does one 'get the authority' to ask anyone where they get their authority?

The authority comes from Jesus when he chose a number to teach.

He commissioned them "Go out and teach..."

Then they too commissioned others to teach.

The Holy Spirit moved through them 300 years later to choose which books to put in the Bible.

 

[Montalban]

nope. I'm fine.

did you look up the passage? Or do you need me to find it for you like last time?

I'd be interested in seeing the passage

 

[christianmomof3]

I read this today and thought it might apply to at least some of the things in this thread:

Romans14: 3
"He who eats, let him not despise him who does not eat; and he who does not eat, let him not judge him who eats, for God has received him."

"The basis on which we receive the believers is that God has received them. God receives people according to His Son. When a person receives God's Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, as his Savior, God receives that person immediately and ushers him into the enjoyment of the Triune God and of all He has prepared and accomplished in Christ for us.
We should receive people in the same way and should not be more narrow than God. Regardless of how much they differ from us in doctrinal concepts or religious practices, we must receive them. When we receive people according to God and not according to doctrine or practice, we demonstrate and maintain the oneness of the Body of Christ."
http://online.recoveryversion.org/FootNotes.asp?FNtsID=4054

 

[Uphill Battle]

That's the problem; it's all about you!

what another wonderful opportunity to take what someone has said, and twist it! you get so many! Must be like a kid in a candy store!

go get indoctrinated some more, and leave me be. You have no intent on doing anything other than twisting words, and misrepresenting.

 

[Uphill Battle]

what another wonderful opportunity to take what someone has said, and twist it! you get so many! Must be like a kid in a candy store!

go get indoctrinated some more, and leave me be. You have no intent on doing anything other than twisting words, and misrepresenting.

lost on page 5. don't know why.

 

[benedictaoo]

I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.


here. This will help.

http://www.spectacleworld.co.za/eyetest.htm

and if the heart is far from, it is YOUR choice for it to be. It is YOU and not the prayer.

I don't know how any ration agreement can be made against meditating on the word Christ taught us.

UpHill, what even is prayer to you?

You can take a theologically correct prayer that speaks of God's divine truth and meditate on it and recite it as many times as your heart desires. There is NO act of false worship in that... you have GOT to see this?!

 

[benedictaoo]

I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.


here. This will help.

http://www.spectacleworld.co.za/eyetest.htm

and if the heart is far from, it is YOUR choice for it to be. It is YOU and not the prayer.

I don't know how any ration agreement can be made against meditating on the word Christ taught us.

UpHill, what even is prayer to you?

You can take a theologically correct prayer that speaks of God's divine truth and meditate on it and recite it as many times as your heart desires. There is NO act of false worship in that... you have GOT to see this?!

 

[benedictaoo]

I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.


here. This will help.

http://www.spectacleworld.co.za/eyetest.htm

and if the heart is far from, it is YOUR choice for it to be. It is YOU and not the prayer.

I don't know how any rational argument can be made against meditating on the words Christ taught us.

UpHill, what is prayer to you?

You can take a theologically correct prayer that speaks of God's divine truth and meditate on it and recite it as many times as your heart desires. There is NO act of false worship in that... you have GOT to see this?!

 

[benedictaoo]

I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.


here. This will help.

http://www.spectacleworld.co.za/eyetest.htm

and if the heart is far from, it is YOUR choice for it to be. It is YOU and not the prayer.

I don't know how any rational argument can be made against meditating on the words Christ taught us.

UpHill, what is prayer to you?

You can take a theologically correct prayer that speaks of God's divine truth and meditate on it and recite it as many times as your heart desires. There is NO act of false worship in that... you have GOT to see this?!

 

[benedictaoo]

I said that for me, it would be sinful to participate in something as worship that is not really worship. IOW, lips honour, heart far from.


here. This will help.

http://www.spectacleworld.co.za/eyetest.htm

and if the heart is far from, it is YOUR choice for it to be. It is YOU and not the prayer.

I don't know how any rational argument can be made against meditating on the words Christ taught us.

UpHill, what is prayer to you?

You can take a theologically correct prayer that speaks of God's divine truth and meditate on it and recite it as many times as your heart desires. There is NO act of false worship in that... you have GOT to see this?!

 

[benedictaoo]

holy hannah. is NOBODY able to see the point?

I am not talking about YOU.

I'm talking about ME.

it would be sinful for ME to participate in worship that was false for me.

if you are able to worship in genuine fashion, saying the same things time and time again, good for YOU. I cannot, so do not.

Yes, we have been seeing the point, we are trying to show it t you.

Relativism... personal truth and nothing is objective.

There is NO SIN is anyone reciting a holy prayer even if they did just rattle it off. At the very least the person is just praying non effectively but false worship and sin??!!

Where do you get this nonsense from???????????

You are so wrong on this one, I can not bare it.