you will be judged even if decieved

[SteveB28]

what I meant was that the great missionary era has ended. Some churches are attempting to be missional, but what they mean is culturally missional, in that the strict moral codes, can be softened for the gaining of converts. These churches have a hard time in the long run as they often contradict their own rules in the rankings of their leaders, and often have a hard time with authority in general. Post modernism mainly, or emerging churches, and emergent churches.

"Missional"...??
"Appendixes"...?
"Zodiak "...?
"Propulgating "...?

Good grief.....on the blood of Zeus, would you please limit yourself to words of just one or two syllables.........?

 

[createdtoworship]

dismissed, as I have explained this allegation already.

I feel like trump with all this, harassment.

 

[createdtoworship]

"Missional"...??
"Appendixes"...?
"Zodiak "...?
"Propulgating "...?

Good grief.....on the blood of Zeus, would you please limit yourself to words of just one or two syllables.........?

sometimes they work easier that typing more..

 

[SteveB28]

sometimes they work easier that typing more..

You just keep piling it on, don't you........!

 

[Eudaimonist]

dismissed, as I have explained this allegation already.

I feel like trump with all this, harassment.

It isn't harassment to be told that you are making a straw man argument. That's called discussion.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[createdtoworship]

It isn't harassment to be told that you are making a straw man argument. That's called discussion.


eudaimonia,

Mark

well let me rephrase and let me sum up your position, as you seem to think ours is foolish....maybe look at your own....

That life sprang from an electrocuted mud puddle, that fishy fish life swam until they ran out of water, sprouted legs and crawled up on shore, that those same fishy fish split off in two different directions- mammalian and reptilian, that those reptilian frayed their scales until they became feathers, shrunk down in size, climbed a tree, jumped off a branch, flew around and became tweety birds.

Or Man...that the mammalian family ditched the four legged transportation for two, grew a tail, climbed a tree, swung around from the branches until their tails fell off and they fell out the trees, built a fire, shed the fur, grew a beard, grew a bigger brain and now rationalizes with his bigger brain we came from monkeys.

above illustration from good brother at CF

 

[createdtoworship]

It isn't harassment to be told that you are making a straw man argument. That's called discussion.


eudaimonia,

Mark

the post right before yours was a strawman as well, yet you were politely silent on that one:

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...even-if-decieved.7967653/page-9#post-70277511

 

[Eudaimonist]

the post right before yours was a strawman as well, yet you were politely silent on that one:

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...even-if-decieved.7967653/page-9#post-70277511

That's not a straw man. In what sense do you think that it was?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Eudaimonist]

well let me rephrase and let me sum up your position, as you seem to think ours is foolish....maybe look at your own....

That life sprang from an electrocuted mud puddle, that fishy fish life swam until they ran out of water, sprouted legs and crawled up on shore, that those same fishy fish split off in two different directions- mammalian and reptilian, that those reptilian frayed their scales until they became feathers, shrunk down in size, climbed a tree, jumped off a branch, flew around and became tweety birds.

That's another bundle of straw men. You apparently aren't interested in real discussion and just want to vent. I will leave you to it.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[bhsmte]

how do you verify that we evolved from a rock? and the the bang that caused the universe was a bang from absolutely nothing, and if it was something, then that something needed a cause that we have no clue what it is....yet this is science....???

What rock?

 

[bhsmte]

It isn't harassment to be told that you are making a straw man argument. That's called discussion.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Trump would call it harassment.

 

[createdtoworship]

That's not a straw man. In what sense do you think that it was?


eudaimonia,

Mark

instead of addressing the issue he set up a cheap strawman on my grammar, and emboldened my typo, saying I was piling on the bad typos.

but nevertheless avoiding the overal gist of the conversation, if that is not a strawman, I don't know what is.

yet you politely overlook it and ask for clarification when you obviously could have read it yourself in two seconds.

so this is actually a strawman as well.
or should I say, stalling.

yeah, it's just stalling.

so will you continue to stall, or will you address the topic?

 

[createdtoworship]

That's another bundle of straw men. You apparently aren't interested in real discussion and just want to vent. I will leave you to it.


eudaimonia,

Mark

well let me rephrase.

you wanted to know what truth is.

I will tell you exactly what it is.

if you tell me where rationization came into effect in our biological history.

in other words, what biological cause could create a huge organism with the ability to question it's own origin, in such ways....so smart that it could wonder compound questions and philosophical questions as "what is truth"

?

so please answer this.

where did rational thought evolve in primordial beings?

if you answer this, I will answer your question.

but I doubt you will.

because you do not have the answer, and neither will I answer you.

you may be wondering why I answered a question with a question, but I was taught by Christ himself.

When Jesus was asked by what authority do you do these things, He did not answer. But answered with a question, He said, I will answer you if you answer this...."is John the Baptist from God"

and if they answered yes, then He would ask, "then why didn't you believe what He said."

and if they said no, the people would revolt.

so they did not answer, and Jesus in return did not answer.

and neither do I answer you.

unless you have an answer for my question, which you most likely will not.

 

[createdtoworship]

What rock?

I clarified that in another post, please read the whole thread, no need for redundancy.

 

[createdtoworship]

Trump would call it harassment.

there is a new thread with the op quote as this:



"Main stream media is so anti Trump that if he broke wind publicly we would be experiencing five days on how Trump used chemical warfare on civilians
"

negative news sells more than positive so they seem to be focused on if trump breaks wind or not.

 

[MrSpikey]

opinion.

(as you have no sources).

Am I right?

I gave my evidence.

it's an argument from silence

I'm not sure consistency is your forte.

 

[Eudaimonist]

instead of addressing the issue he set up a cheap strawman on my grammar

I don't think that you know what a straw man argument is. Commenting on someone's grammar is not a straw man. He didn't misrepresent your argument the way that you are misrepresenting scientific views. I'm not going to call someone out on a straw man argument where none is given.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Eudaimonist]

in other words, what biological cause could create a huge organism with the ability to question it's own origin, in such ways....so smart that it could wonder compound questions and philosophical questions as "what is truth"

Natural selection is the efficient cause. Question answered.

That might not be the answer you wanted, but it is the correct answer.

where did rational thought evolve in primordial beings?

Primordial beings? That is vague language. Perhaps you could at least clarify which beings you mean? Or what time frame? Or why one should even think that primordial beings have any rationality?

if you answer this, I will answer your question.

but I doubt you will.

Why? I would be happy to answer your question, if you can state it clearly.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[xpower]

You know judgment does not automatically mean a negative outcome. Judgement can have a positive outcome, happens all the time in real life.