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simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Do you know ?
Is there a way to tell openly on this forum without breaking the rules (of the site) ?
I don't think there is.
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Do you know ?Also why do you feel inclined to tell us to warn your loved ones?
very good, thanks.
then if you are open to debate, the very next step is being open to change.
because when we are proven wrong many times, we build walls up in the fortress of our mind, blocking anyone from coming close. But in debate, everything is on the table. If for example your livelihood were on debate, say for example you were an evolutionary biologist and I proved to you beyond a shadow of a doubt evolution to be false. Honest debate, means you would quite your job, take up three other jobs, get more school grants, go back to school and get a different degree. And live your life with a changed mind that affected your life.
but to say no, I am wrong regarding evolution. Because you don't want to get a new job....is not right.
and this is not really honest.
... is it?
Clearly we are not, or social mores would be a constant factor through history and across geography. And even in our own time and place, ethics and morals are controversial matters. And, of course, neither babes in arms nor spotty adolescents have much to contribute to that controversy.
The principle is well established in law, as far back as the Romans.
Take the recent incidents concerning moslem male refugee migrants in Germany. They were ignorant of laws against sexual harassment, and as far as they were concerned, the way women dress in the west means they are prostitutes, or, at least, sexually available. So, among other unpleasantnesses, they went around public places in gangs putting their hands up women's skirts. When the culprits are identified, they are rightly tried, judged and sentenced according to German law, not their own 'moral' attitudes.
Ignorantia juris non excusat (Ignorance of the law is no excuse).
Cheers, Strivax.
Do you know ?
Is there a way to tell openly on this forum without breaking the rules (of the site) ?
I don't think there is.
Personally, I find theists to be the ones not open to change, which always makes me question why they post in forums open to everyone, instead of sticking to Christian-only forums where their basic beliefs aren't challenged.
And an honest theist would also abandon their beliefs if they come to the conclusion that they believe for bad reasons, right?
no where in the world is cutting in line acceptible, regardless of race, ethnicity or local. You can even go as far as saying selfishness in general is avoided in civil laws world wide. But what law are they following? It's not the herd instinct, as a herd instinct simply is following the others in your type of species, to safety, or to food. A herd instinct would not apply. So then since it is not the herd instinct what law are people following to say that one should not be selfish?(as in cutting in line)
For a long time I believed God will never judge those who don't know about him.
but given the law of nature* innate in our mental instincts.
Even if we are deceived it appears God will still judge* us.
source: (adam and eve being deceived still rejected from the garden).
so this motive that satan can deceive man in a way that makes God curse his creation, has been the motive of satan for thousands of years.
But I used to try to sugar coat my ideas, that the pigmi's in africa never heard the Gospel and would be safe.
but the truth is, that via deception of the prince of the air, the chances are not looking good for them.
hence this motive led one of the greatest missionary movements of our time.
1789-1914 the great missionary era.
We are no longer in a missionary era, and that is unfortunate.
what are your thoughts.
Footnotes:
*law of nature, as explained by CS lewis (explanation of this is allowed on this thread)
**Judgement - great white throne judgement, of all wrong doings: Revelation 20:12-14: "12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
(note:now, one can argue that eve was the one deceived and not adam. Meaning that either He KNEW what was happening, and chose to do it anyway. Which begs the question when we are deceived, if deep inside, if we REALLY are suppressing the truth for a lie.)
see truth decay in OP
David when mentioning his child's death said "we will go to him" he will not come to us But a child who died prematurely surely cannot follow the law of God nor accept Christ savior. I typically do believe in an age of accountability but not sure what age it happens. It's probably different for each child.Where is "the age of accountability" espoused in the Bible?
Would you say that this herd is simply following the calf for safety or food?
no where in the world is cutting in line acceptible, regardless of race, ethnicity or local.
Neither point is salient.David when mentioning his child's death said "we will go to him" he will not come to us But a child who died prematurely surely cannot follow.the law.of God nor accept Christ savior.
There is absolutely no shred of evidence in the bible for such a thing.I typically do believe in an age of accountability but not sure what age it happens.
David when mentioning his child's death said "we will go to him" he will not come to us But a child who died prematurely surely cannot follow.the law.of God nor accept Christ savior. I typically do believe in an age of accountability but not sure what age it happens. It's probably different for each child.
I suppose safety but in all honesty I don't have the data to stream you video. Can you summarize?
Sure. Essentially, we have a safari group filming a herd of buffalo walking along some river or lake, crossing by lions, lying in wait. Events transpire as follows:
- The head bull comes first, followed by a small procession with the bulk of the herd behind them.
- There is a calf who has strayed into this lighter procession, and seeing it, the lions quickly fall upon it.
- The lions wrestle with the calf as the herd approaches.
- There is an interlude where the calf falls into the water and the lions fight with crocodiles for their catch. The calf, mind you, is still alive and trying to get away.
- The lions successfully retrieve the calf from the water, and force it up onto land, where they then proceed to surround and attack it.
- The herd, once it arrives, assembles against the lions with large bulls up front.
- They fight the lions off of the calf.
- Having freed the calf, one of the bulls shepherds it to the back, stepping between it and the lions.
- The herd then disperses the lions, and it seems to then resume its course.
I think that verse is in Third Condominiums......When did David accept Christ as his savior?
When did David accept Christ as his savior?
I think that verse is in Third Condominiums......
thats not lack of selfishness, thats instinct.
it's the herd instict.
programmed into every animal upon creation.
like I seaid they are going to safety, and making sure all of them make it.
some theorists believe the the gospel was preached even as far back as abraham, and to noahs' sons etc. Through visions. I personally believe Christ's gospel to be a specific dispensation of the new testament.
however if your real concerns may come out we can address them.
but for someone who rejects repentance and Christ, fiery damnation awaits all who do not believe the bible says.
but for children, this would not be the case according to some theologians.
i personally do not know exactly, but I know that we are judged based on how much we know, and if we repented or not, and if we accept Christ as saviour. IF the road is too hard for some, than there really is not other option than this. And I am grateful there is in fact ONE option. Because really, God did not need to give us a way at all....to be saved.
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