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You say you want an evolution?

You say you want an evolution?

For decades now the hands-down biggest conflict between scintific and religion has been the evolution-vs,-creation debate.The scopes trial took place in 1926,resulting in a slap-on-the-wrist fine of 100$ for John Scopes' effrontery in teacging evolution in public schools.But the trial didn't exactly end settle the matter.Since then,problems almost arise whever evolution and education cross paths.
Perhaps you've taken a stand on this issue without ever giving the mattermuch thought.So let's take a look at some of the basic beliefs on both sides of the issue.
The creationist postion is based on literal interpretation of Scripture. The creation of both the earth and of human beings was intentioanl work of God,created from nothing,and on His time-table.God was involved personally and lovingly in forming both a habitat and a humanity.Humans were created in the image of God,and God himself breathed life into them.The 1st people,along with the plants and aniamls created before them,were provided with the ability to reproduce.
The thery of evolution suggests that life was perhaps equally miraculuos,but not so intentional.Billions or years ago,some-where,somehow,right coditions formed to generate a life force from inanimate matter.First a cell,then 2,then 4,and given enough time, the complexities increased until we now have a massive varitey of aniaml speciaes,including 6 billion humans.Evolutionists have traditionally rejected the creationist stance because they perfer answers based on science rather than faith.Yet recently the original theory of evolution has been questioned bt certain scientisys and deep thinkers.Scientists who also have chosen to be Christians are left to search for truth in both areas as they attempt to fill the holes in both their knowledge and thier faith
 
Sorry,I got that from a book!You know you guys crizize poeple to much!I am may only be 12 but I didn't understand it very well but I thought someone could help or say something nice!You guys are so....so....you guys are like hypocrites if you ask me!All you guys ever do is crtisize people and say only negotive things.I just joined and thought that I could get a better response than that,but thats just my point of of view of this place.
 
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Originally posted by Puppylove
Evolutionists have traditionally rejected the creationist stance because they perfer answers based on science rather than faith.

Incorrect. Evolutionists reject the creationist stance because there is no positive evidence to support it.

Yet recently the original theory of evolution has been questioned bt certain scientisys and deep thinkers.

Which certain scientists and deep thinkers? Are their qualifications in evolutionary biology such that we should take their opinions seriously?

Scientists who also have chosen to be Christians are left to search for truth in both areas as they attempt to fill the holes in both their knowledge and thier faith.

Kenneth Miller is a professor of biology and one of the most ardent public defenders of evolution. He also happens to be Roman Catholic. Apparently the search for truth was not too difficult for him.

Our own seebs is also a Christian and an active defender of evolution to boot.
 
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Which certain scientists and deep thinkers? Are their qualifications in evolutionary biology such that we should take their opinions seriously?


Well why should we take evolutionists seriously?YOU GUYS CRITIZES TOO MUCH!!!YOU GUYS ARE SO...I DON'T KNOW BUT YOU GUYS DON'T DESERVE BLEESINGS!!
 
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We just find it very hard to believe, that the earth is 12000 years old, when we find things, that are billions of years old.
With the physical laws in place, no one can explain exactly, where the huge amount of water went after the big flood.
And it is not a good thing, to just copy and paste something out of a book, one doesn't understand without any further comments.
 
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  The first person to respond to you was a Christian and I believe a YEC.

  The second person pointed out some examples that contradict what you wrote, and asked a few questions.

  That's critizing too much? What were you expecting? How to you want us to respond? Accept it at face value, errors and all? Accept it uncritically? Ask no questions?
 
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We just find it very hard to believe, that the earth is 12000 years old, when we find things, that are billions of years old.
With the physical laws in place, no one can explain exactly, where the  huge amount of water went after the big flood.
And it is not a good thing, to just copy and paste something out of a book, one doesn't understand without any further comments.


Who ever said the earth was only 12000 years old? Its very clear from Gods word the the earth is much older then that..
 
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wHY DON'T YOU READ THE BIBLE FOR MATERIAL EVIDENCE,AND HOW CAN YOU prove the earth is billions of years old?Your not a scientist,do you know how many times scientist can be proven wrong or have admitted to stretch the truth.Aand it was just an estimate the the earth is about the old or more.
 
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How can I prove it?
Its called the Radiocarbone method and the Radium Argon method.
Oh btw I am a chemical engineer, what does that make me?

Radiocarbone method:

Carbone comes in three isotopes, naturally.
One is stable, the other two are not.
The how much of an Isotope is there in relation of the others is known today.
We can measure the amount of each isotope today.
We find a piece of something.
If it contains Carbone, like all organic things do, we can measure the amount of each isotope in the sample.
Furthermore we know, how long it takes for the isotopes to detoriate.
So we can judge how long the sample was not biologically active, aka dead.

Radium Argon Method:

Same as Radiocarbone method.
Radium detoriates over time into Argon. So we measure the amount of Argon and the can judge how long it has taken for the Argon to build in the sample.
 
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Originally posted by Puppylove
prove it.

That's a rather difficult request considering the breadth of the evidence. I always refer people to the following FAQ for a good introduction:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

The rest of the talk.origins site does a good job of discussing many more detailed topics.
 
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Puppy Love: Welcome to the Forum!!!!

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You seem to have an intelligence and wisdom far beyond your years. You are right to question that which you do not believe. But when you do you rattle the cage of many of our man-apes. You cannot then expect then to react with kindness and love, considering where they think they originated. LOL :D

I am not sure this is the best place for you. I see you as having much to lose and little to gain.

May God Bless You!

Guys! The kid is 12 years old! Chill! :cool:
 
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Thats dosen't matter I want you to prove to me that evolution is "sooo good"Prove to me with your own words and with your own scientific evidence that evolution is soo great.If you can't you just believing in something you have no clue what it mean and just "think" its right. You are a fool for believing in evolution! :mad:
 
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Puppylove, please explain me, how any single person can prove evolution?
The evidence of those thigns is locked away in museums al over the world, in labs to be experimented upon, no one will get all the legal permits to put those things in front of you.
However, if one is interested enough, one can go to the museums and lok upon parts f the evidence.
And please Puppylove, please do the same for creation.
Use your own words, your own evidence. And no, some sort of bible, to be bought in a shop doesn't count for evidence.
 
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