What are you trying to say here? Can you rephrase it, please? I don't understand.
certainly.
your question was asking where the martyrs of the Obama regime are as compared to the time of Diocletion.
So i would presume that you are in fact looking for rows upon rows of Christians hung up on burning crosses that line the major roadways.
I said that it was a good question, but that it was also a query that a person should be cautious in requesting proof for.
today what we see instead of burning crosses is bibles taken out of public places,
Service chaplains muzzled,
Christian business people hauled into court or jailed for the exercise of their religious conscious objection rights on the one hand, but not for their civil disobedience.
schools and teachers required by law to teach against their personel religious beliefs,
graduation exercises changed to remove the name of God from the proceedings,
laws being passed to permit murder of the young and the old.
and lest we forget, the curent slant of the news against religion.
the crosses are different today, but they are there.
Well, when people make the claim that you won't have a church to go to anymore, I'd say that would fit under the umbrella of persecution pretty well. Except that that is not what has happened under Obama (despite many here thinking that he's basically Satan), and there's no reason to believe that it would happen under Clinton, either.
except that Clinton has promised to go further than Obama did.
She promises to extend the legal period under which abortion can take place, up to and including live birth.
She promises to have common core taught in all schools.
she is against home schooling.
She is pro euthanasia.
She is pro same sex marriage, same sex bathrooms and changing rooms, and the eradication of
sexually designated pronouns (he, she, hers, his, boys, girls, men, women, etc.)
She promises to nominate for the supreme court judges who will enact such legislation
She promises to increase the number of approved immigrants into this country,
to decrease the military
to decrease Social Security
and she is against the repeal of the Johnson amendment which muzzles the churches and non-profit organizations from political endorsements.
All of the above things which she is for, the church is against, and vice versa.
With all of that in mind, will it be any wonder if she doesn't close the doors of churches who are opposed to all that she intends to enact into legislation?
Um...yep. Good thing that's not what's happening or going to happen in the USA based on the election or anything else. What's your point?
my point is why would she say such things if she had no intention of doing them?
and if she does intend to do them, who would benefit and who would suffer?
I don't who the 'they' you're referring to here is. The only group I brought up is Iraqi Christians. They've got it worse than any group of Americans indulging in persecution and martyrdom fantasies, and by and large they're not denying anything, so I don't know what you're talking about.
and you were comparing them to the American Christians, and wondering where the persecution was.
Even in your second sentence in the quote directly above this response you bring in the Americans, so i answered accordingly to show you that the persecution you are wanting to observe is in the wings as we speak.
and when it hits America the numbers will be greater than your example above.
Pictured: Iraqi refugee camp. You can tell which ones are the Christians' tents because the occupants spray painted big crosses on them and the phrase "Jesus is the light of the world" (يسوع نور العالم).[/QUOTE]