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Give my two Apache helicopters and a platoon of Rangers and I can control any battlefield in the world.

Give me one aircraft carrier group and I can control any sea lane or shoreline in the world.

Give me one US Air Force bomber group with two supporting fighter wings, and I can annihilate any target area up to 400 miles square in the world.

That's US military superiority, and no one can touch it.
 
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Give my two Apache helicopters and a platoon of Rangers and I can control any battlefield in the world.

Give me one aircraft carrier group and I can control any sea lane or shoreline in the world.

Give me one US Air Force bomber group with two supporting fighter wings, and I can annihilate any target area up to 400 miles square in the world.

That's US military superiority, and no one can touch it.
Another one who would do well to lay off the Call of modern duty 2.
 
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IisJustMe

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Another one who would do well to lay off the Call of modern duty 2.
I don't play video games. I'm a 20-year vet, thank you very much. I lived it, as an Apache pilot and unit commander. I know American military power.
 
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I retract the statement due to its personal nature and I don't know you personally. The fact remains that the sentiment of liberals changed from opposition to political ideology to visceral hatred immediately after he answered the question and stated his favorite philosopher was Jesus Christ. It became such a vile hatred that Jonathan Chait wrote an article defending the hate. Every time President Bush mentioned his personal faith the left went crazy with hatred. The left repeated deliberately lied about what he said and even made an enormous headline that read BUSH KNEW after the 9/11 attacks.

Despite the crimes, bad behavior and adultery of Bill Clinton, the liberals loved him. No wonder when Obama attacked people who cling to their guns and religion the libs were dancing in the street.
Thank you for that.
Your idea of liberal seems to be of the far-lefties who probably aren't members of CF, in that most of them are secularist. So, why not curbed your rhetoric to CF audience of Current Affair forum.

I do not recall any of your descriptive narratives of "W" or how others treated him for his faith. But I do recall how Obama was raked over the religious coals, is that similar to what you say of "W"?

I didn't dance in the street, but I found what he said about bitter people of rural Pen State to be on target. They always leave out the 'bitter' when quoting the cling to guns/religion phrase. So, how many bitter Christians do you know? If any, you may want to speak to them about it.

About "W" lying and starting a war in Iraq on lies and deception has been proven enough for me to believe it. No yellow cake, no WMD's, just a whole bunch of oil fields that needed exploited by big corps.
 
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Give my two Apache helicopters and a platoon of Rangers and I can control any battlefield in the world.

Give me one aircraft carrier group and I can control any sea lane or shoreline in the world.

Give me one US Air Force bomber group with two supporting fighter wings, and I can annihilate any target area up to 400 miles square in the world.

That's US military superiority, and no one can touch it.
That's what Romney would like. But No, I don't trust you nor Romney with it, that's why we all get to vote for commander in chief, it isn't appointed. Sorry Rambo ^_^
 
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About "W" lying and starting a war in Iraq on lies and deception has been proven enough for me to believe it. No yellow cake, no WMD's, just a whole bunch of oil fields that needed exploited by big corps.
The British government actually DID learn that Iraq ATTEMPTED to buy yellowcake from Libya. That is an absolute proven fact. Joe Wilson lied. Libya did not actually SELL them yellowcake, but nobody said they did.

About the WMD, EVERY leading Democrat has made statements on the record about them, INCLUDING both Clintons, Kerry, Leiberman, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, and all the liberal elite. I can get their quotes again and post them for you if you have no memory of it. I can also find for you the listing of UN DOCUMENTED stores of WMD from 1991. Since lying is a requirement for being a liberal jounalist and the media misrepresented the reasons for the Iraq war every single day since hostilities began, I suggest you go back and re-read the 17 reasons why Congress OVERWHELMINGLY voted to authorize the use of force.

Your link

Your statement that Bush lied is, in itself, a lie. Bush repeated what ALL of the experts (foreign intelligence as well as the Clinton cabinet members he hadn't been able to replace yet) knew to be true. The one thing nobody knew was what Hussein did with all the weapons the whole world knew he once had.

Now that you know the truth, please do not continue to lie by saying Bush lied to get us into a war. It's a disgusting liberal lie that demeans people who really should know better.

Okay, here's the link.
 
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Lovely Lane

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The British government actually DID learn that Iraq ATTEMPTED to buy yellowcake from Libya. That is an absolute proven fact. Joe Wilson lied. Libya did not actually SELL them yellowcake, but nobody said they did.

About the WMD, EVERY leading Democrat has made statements on the record about them, INCLUDING both Clintons, Kerry, Leiberman, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, and all the liberal elite. I can get their quotes again and post them for you if you have no memory of it. I can also find for you the listing of UN DOCUMENTED stores of WMD from 1991. Since lying is a requirement for being a liberal jounalist and the media misrepresented the reasons for the Iraq war every single day since hostilities began, I suggest you go back and re-read the 17 reasons why Congress OVERWHELMINGLY voted to authorize the use of force.

Your link

Your statement that Bush lied is, in itself, a lie. Bush repeated what ALL of the experts (foreign intelligence as well as the Clinton cabinet members he hadn't been able to replace yet) knew to be true. The one thing nobody knew was what Hussein did with all the weapons the whole world knew he once had.

Now that you know the truth, please do not continue to lie by saying Bush lied to get us into a war. It's a disgusting liberal lie that demeans people who really should know better.

Okay, here's the link.
thank you, enjoy your opinion as I enjoy and favor mine.
 
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Give my two Apache helicopters and a platoon of Rangers and I can control any battlefield in the world.

Give me one aircraft carrier group and I can control any sea lane or shoreline in the world.

Give me one US Air Force bomber group with two supporting fighter wings, and I can annihilate any target area up to 400 miles square in the world.

That's US military superiority, and no one can touch it.

If only those in charge in iraq and afghanistan knew what you know-imagine the lives that could've been saved , and the hundreds of $billions.
 
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I do love my neighbor. It's a shame this America loathing socialist put him out of work.

I don't believe George Bush was a socialist. Sure, the economy crashed and we lost jobs because of his harebrained policies. But just because we gained millions of jobs under Clinton and lost millions under Bush doesn't automatically make him a socialist.
 
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I don't believe George Bush was a socialist. Sure, the economy crashed and we lost jobs because of his harebrained policies. But just because we gained millions of jobs under Clinton and lost millions under Bush doesn't automatically make him a socialist.

Oh, I forgot that Newt Gingrich had nothing to do with the job market
during Clinton's administration.
 
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