You almost have to wonder if the Democratic Party is secretly trying to lose.

rambot said:

It's great to rag on democrats right now....with all the power they have.


How popular is Trump doing now, by rhe way? Are his policies being people into the republican fold?

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Yes. By about 4.5 million.

Oompa Loompa said:

Yes. By about 4.5 million.

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Since JANUARY???? WOW. Source for that?

rambot said:

Since JANUARY???? WOW. Source for that?

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Since Jan 2020 when Biden took office. Goes to show how awful he was.

The way I see it, democrats have two options. Either get on the Trump train, or sink with the DNC ship.

rambot said:

How popular is Trump doing now, by the way?

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He is more popular than the Democrats.

Oompa Loompa said:

The way I see it, democrats have two options. Either get on the Trump train, or sink with the DNC ship.

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They just aren't into authoritarians. Keep in mind, the FO stage is here.

Say it aint so said:

They just aren't into authoritarians. Keep in mind, the FO stage is here.

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Sure they do. It was the democrats who weaponized OSHA to force vaccines onto people. It was the democrats who cheered when people were arrested for refusing to wear a mask on an empty beach. Talk about a police state. We'll, at least the only democrats that are left who still have not fled the party.

Always in His Presence said:

Like I said. I’m not looking for a fight

If you do not want to answer the question, just say so.

Yeesh, I was actually congratulating them and asking if it would help the party

Take a deep breathe. I was on your side wondering if you knew something I didn’t. Sheesh!

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My brother in Christ, I'm not here to fight, and I know you aren't either. Sometimes our online debates can seem heated because it's hard to express emotion through text, but I assure you my intentions are peaceful.

We have previously discussed in other threads your perspective regarding the challenges currently facing the Democratic Party, including concerns about leadership, messaging, and overall organization. You often emphasize that the party is experiencing difficulties and internal discord. I would like to remind you that it is common for a political party to go through periods of self-examination and restructuring following a presidential election loss.

The GOP faced setbacks and internal challenges after losing presidential elections in 1992, 2008, and 2014, but regained control of Congress two years later in both 1994 and 2010. Similarly, the DNC experienced defeats in the 2000 and 2004 elections to George W. Bush, and in 2016 and 2024 to President Trump. However, Democrats regained control of Congress during the 2007 and 2018 midterm elections.

This has been the trend of American politics since 1990. The American public no longer prefers to grant one party full control for more than two to four years. When Republicans hold the White House, voters often choose to give Congress to the Democrats during the midterms; conversely, if a Democrat occupies the White House, Americans frequently elect a Republican-controlled Congress in the midterms. The electorate appears resistant to having a single-party ideology dominate the government. As a result, many citizens routinely shift their votes between parties every two to four years, as the majority seeks to ensure checks and balances within the political system.

The history will repeat itself in 2026. The 2026 election will not primarily focus on the Democratic Party, but rather on the Republican Party and President Trump. Unless President Trump is able to fulfill his promise to make America great again—and the majority of Americans agree that the nation has indeed improved—it is likely that the Democrats will regain control of the House by winning at least 20 additional seats.

The DNC did not take any new actions in Iowa; the focus remains on President Trump and Republicans, not Democrats and that is why voter voted for Democrats.

All your threads about Democrats are experiencing difficulties and internal discord, and the polls suggesting they are shrinking are, at best, theoretical exercises. In reality, American policy over the past 40 years is clear evidence that Democrats will regain control of Congress—if not both chambers, then at least the House—in 2026. That outcome is inevitable.

Always in His Presence said:

No - the vast majority of the information I post comes from Democratic sources speaking of their own party. They themselves are speaking of the division and chaos they are going through and how, right now, they are leaderless.

Polls are not theoretical exercises but snap shots of how the public reacts to a certain subject.

There is no inevitable outcome unless the election is rigged.

There is an inherent weakness in an argument that include definitive statements (the outcome is inevitable - the price of tomatoes is going to be $7 a pound etc) is that there are too many things that influence the outcome.

Might I remind you:


They all said Donald Trump will never be President - was that inevitable also?

Do I think the Democratic Party can win back the House and Senate - sure because elections are never written in stone.

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When you rely on a comedian’s political satire to support your argument, you have effectively forfeited the opportunity for a rational debate.

Always in His Presence said:

It shows you did not watch the link whatsoever, unless you consider Pelosi, Obama, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren etc comedians -

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Some would call them clowns, which is a type of comedian. Of course I would personally not say such a thing.

Oompa Loompa said:

He is more popular than the Democrats.

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And how popular is that?

rambot said:

And how popular is that?

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Doesn't matter. The fact is that people like Trump more than the DNC, and frankly Democrats must feel pretty pathetic about it considering how much they hate Trump. Which is why they are collapsing and devouring themselves now.

Oompa Loompa said:

Doesn't matter.

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Sure.

It doesn't matter how popular the sitting president is after only 6 months of his policies. Why should it matter how popular the people in power are when there are people with 0 power?

The fact is that people like Trump more than the DNC, and frankly Democrats must feel pretty pathetic about it considering how much they hate Trump. Which is why they are collapsing and devouring themselves now.

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You think I care HOW much people like Trump? His supporters idolize him. I'm not interested in the depth of their undying affection for the man.

I';m curious about the NUMBER of people who like Trump and his policies. And that number is decreasing.

rambot said:

Why should it matter how popular the people in power are when there are people with 0 power?

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Yes. If you ever wish for your party to EVER be trusted with any power in the future. The midterms may not look to good for the Democrats with that perspective. Your question only reveals two things. 1. A lot of people dont like Trump. 2. More people dont like the Democratic Party.

rambot said:

You think I care HOW much people like Trump?

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You should considering more people like Trump than they like anything the DNC has to offer. And I am will to wager, less a miracle, that they will not be able to provide a suitable candidate in 2028 that will carry them over the finish line and into the white house. So I look forward to President Vance. Heck, as of today, I think Trump Jr has a better chance of becoming president than the best the DNC can provide. But if your party's strategy is just being the losers so they act as political martyrs for their dying cause, I am not going to stop them. I just wonder what new political party is going to replace them.

Oompa Loompa said:

Yes. If you ever wish for your party to EVER be trusted with any power in the future. The midterms may not look to good for the Democrats with that perspective. Your question only reveals two things. 1. A lot of people dont like Trump. 2. More people dont like the Democratic Party.

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I would posit that you'd want your president to start implementing POPULAR policies. People in the US are more prone to vote AGAINST things then for things. It's easy to TALK about hating the Democrat party; it's HARDER to turn those votes in Trump votes. Because htose people are looking in the OTHER direction away from Trump.
When the Republican working class decides that it is MORE important to better their economic position, they'd stop voting for Republicans too.

Oompa Loompa said:

You should considering more people like Trump than they like anything the DNC has to offer. And I am will to wager, less a miracle, that they will not be able to provide a suitable candidate in 2028 that will carry them over the finish line and into the white house. So I look forward to President Vance. Heck, as of today, I think Trump Jr has a better chance of becoming president than the best the DNC can provide. But if your party's strategy is just being the losers so they act as political martyrs for their dying cause, I am not going to stop them. I just wonder what new political party is going to replace them.

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"Know your Enemy" - Sun Tzu.

You clearly don't.

rambot said:

I would posit that you'd want your president to start implementing POPULAR policies. People in the US are more prone to vote AGAINST things then for things. It's easy to TALK about hating the Democrat party; it's HARDER to turn those votes in Trump votes. Because htose people are looking in the OTHER direction away from Trump.
When the Republican working class decides that it is MORE important to better their economic position, they'd stop voting for Republicans too.


"Know your Enemy" - Sun Tzu.

You clearly don't.

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Declining Democrat voter registrations and growing GOP voter registrations say Trump is doing a good job turning votes around. The only thing democrats have left is their unified hatred for Trump. That is it. Makes me wonder what they are going to do after Trump finishes his term. By the way, it is really concerning that you view the other political party as your enemy.

Oompa Loompa said:

Declining Democrat voter registrations and growing GOP voter registrations say Trump is doing a good job turning votes around.

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Does that trend continue now? Like...as a source of information?