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[Aburame]

lol why did it surpass xbox in sells and still rising and having systems backorderd cause of the demand LOOK STUFF UP BEFORE YOU REPLY with dumb stuff

lol, If you read what i said, the xbox out sold in NA = NORTH AMERICA!

and you think there runing low eh, HA i have some news for you

Originally Posted by ign.com
Where Have All the GameCubes Gone?

in your recent article about how gamecubes are running out of stock, while reading i was also wondering just how nintendos competitors, Xbox and ps2 are doing.
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I dont know what kinda marketing BS Nintendo is dishing out to everyone but the reason there hasn't been any gamecubes on store shelves is because they have not been sending out any to retailers. I work at a very large videogames store chain and have been told numerous times that Nintendo has shutdown all lines of contact and we will be recieving gamecubes periodically through the next few months, but not in large quanities. We have been out since christmas and have only recieved about 8 or so since then. Also, our store moves a lot of product so its not like we are getting gamecube allocation to match our sells. Currently we have about 6 or 7 times as many PS2s and 5 or 6 times as many Xboxs. Gamecubes did well during the holidays but once the stopped the Zelda bundle it appeared no one cared. Selling four systems at each store a month and claiming that gamecubes "are flying off the shelves!!" is like taking home a girl from a party getting a hug and kiss on the cheek and telling your friends the next day that she went all the way
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Mary Jane responds: It really is a pr spin -- the main reason there aren't GameCubes is because Nintendo stopped producing them -- because they weren't selling. Then, Nintendo started a GCN buying frenzy with its price drop. It's really an issue of supply and demand -- it's not that the demand for a GameCube has significantly risen (except for the period of Zelda bonus/initial price drop, but that supply is so low that the demand exceeds it.

This is a trick that Nintendo has used in the past to create buzz around its consoles. The same thing happened in the Nintendo 64 days. Nintendo intentionally withheld N64 consoles to make it seem like a must have item -- as soon as stores were stocked they were sold. While this can work for a limited time...when someone floods the market with a console, allowing people who want it to actually buy it, that company will do better than the one limiting supply just to boost demand. The secret to Sony's success is revealed.

there creating hype for themselves. its a marketing scheme, and its working. but they never last long.

why cant you admit that the xbox is a better consol, but YOU dont like the games it has.

 

[CHR15T05]

Dude, I feel like dancing. Nice work!

 

[Aburame]

i deal with fanboys alot. it gets easy after a while

 

[Newsboy1900]

lol, If you read what i said, the xbox out sold in NA = NORTH AMERICA!

and you think there runing low eh, HA i have some news for you



there creating hype for themselves. its a marketing scheme, and its working. but they never last long.

why cant you admit that the xbox is a better consol, but YOU dont like the games it has.

then why is it number 3 even in USA in every place its 3

 

[Newsboy1900]

btw nintendo started making them agian last year they dident stop but for like a few weeks to get the stocked units sold xbox fanboy sites suck

 

[Aburame]

then why is it number 3 even in USA in every place its 3

no...um...ok, Xbox sells just a little bit less than GC WORLD WIDE! it has the most consols sold in NA. in NA it has the most sales, beating the GC's sales, but still behind ps2.

xbox fanboy sites suck

LMAO, the more I listen to you, the more fanboyish you sound. www.ign.com its for ALL CONSOLS, there not biast. but there not stupid. P0W3ND

 

[Newsboy1900]

no...um...ok, Xbox sells just a little bit less than GC WORLD WIDE! it has the most consols sold in NA. in NA it has the most sales, beating the GC's sales, but still behind ps2.

LMAO, the more I listen to you, the more fanboyish you sound. www.ign.com its for ALL CONSOLS, there not biast. but there not stupid. P0W3ND

lol irc quotes sad :/

u posted a users thought why not post the pro GC people and it did not GAMECUBE out sells the XBOX in us and XBOX is nothen in JAP

Fanboy -_-

 

[WarSong]

xbox will die out before Nintendo Or sony

http://www.gamer.tv/page/feature/3401606.htm

http://forums.videogamereview.com/showthread.php?t=1417

http://www.lonepolygon.com/polyblog/archives/000114.shtml

I really don't have anything against Gamecube. I don't know anyone with one, and after seeing Xbox and PS2 games, the XBox has much better graphics. The only, and I mean ONLY PS2 game I would pick over an XBox one is Gran Turismo, and even then Sega GT/Project Gotham Racing II/Racing Revolution are awesome games.

Now if we could combine the customization of Sega GT, the graphics of Project Gotham Racing II and the story of Racing Revolution, there'd be a definite Gran Turismo killer.

 

[Newsboy1900]

http://www.gamer.tv/page/feature/3401606.htm

http://forums.videogamereview.com/t1417

http://www.lonepolygon.com/polyblog/archives/000114.shtml

I really don't have anything against Gamecube. I don't know anyone with one, and after seeing Xbox and PS2 games, the XBox has much better graphics. The only, and I mean ONLY PS2 game I would pick over an XBox one is Gran Turismo, and even then Sega GT/Project Gotham Racing II/Racing Revolution are awesome games.

Now if we could combine the customization of Sega GT, the graphics of Project Gotham Racing II and the story of Racing Revolution, there'd be a definite Gran Turismo killer.

lol everyone keeps boasting abt the grafs name a XBOX game with better grafs than cubes rE4 or metroid prime which halo equals prime but nothen on XBOX compares with RE4

its not true your just locked in the hype of what the box says on the xbox see the past thing where i compare them gc can render the grafs better and The thing abt japan sure it outsould 1 time cuz a new release of a game not by much and never agian after that

 

[Newsboy1900]

and your 2nd link dident work and that 3rd link is true gamecube has surpassed XBOX

 

[Newsboy1900]

by the way wanted to add the reason XBOX has the games they do is they PRAY morely on Violence there is most games for christians or christians should play on GAMECUBE also

and you CANT dissagree without that other than sports

 

[Newsboy1900]

btw that link u had abt outselling when that happend was

Xbox Outsells GameCube In Japan
17 Feb 2003 11:25 GMT
Alan Dykes
Figures for the end of January represent a milestone for Microsoft's console.

 

[Aburame]

just so you know, xbox sales are almost non exsistant in japan. so i am trying to show you, how much it sells in NA.

lol everyone keeps boasting abt the grafs name a XBOX game with better grafs than cubes rE4 or metroid prime which halo equals prime but nothen on XBOX compares with RE4

ninja gaiden, Halo, Otogi: Myth Of demons, i can go on. those all have equal or better graphics for the style of game.

you cant just say, RE4 has better graphics than anything, because the game itself doesn't have frame rate issues, or any real trouble with stuff like that. you cant compare an apple to an orange. xbox can do stuff like that easily, with better load times and graphics.

lol irc quotes sad :/

what do you mean by irc? ...and its better than just saying mindless stuff like you are, without solid evidence to back it up.

Fanboy -_-

you like to talk about yourself alot. and if your refering to me, your absolutly wrong. I have loads of fun on all the consols, but i know wich one is better than the others (xbox), i also know wich one has the most/best games (ps2) and i know wich consol has the fun light hearted games (GC) ...and res evil.

each consol has its strengeth's, and weakness's. but aparently, you cant agree on that, it seems that IYO, the GC has better graphcs, more games, and loads of stuff, thats compleatly untrue.

YOU GOT P0W3ND!

 

[Newsboy1900]

just so you know, xbox sales are almost non exsistant in japan. so i am trying to show you, how much it sells in NA.

ninja gaiden, Halo, Otogi: Myth Of demons, i can go on. those all have equal or better graphics for the style of game.

you cant just say, RE4 has better graphics than anything, because the game itself doesn't have frame rate issues, or any real trouble with stuff like that. you cant compare an apple to an orange. xbox can do stuff like that easily, with better load times and graphics.

what do you mean by irc? ...and its better than just saying mindless stuff like you are, without solid evidence to back it up.

you like to talk about yourself alot. and if your refering to me, your absolutly wrong. I have loads of fun on all the consols, but i know wich one is better than the others (xbox), i also know wich one has the most/best games (ps2) and i know wich consol has the fun light hearted games (GC) ...and res evil.

each consol has its strengeth's, and weakness's. but aparently, you cant agree on that, it seems that IYO, the GC has better graphcs, more games, and loads of stuff, thats compleatly untrue.

YOU GOT P0W3ND!

irc is the lame place your weak l33t speak came from about 10 years ago lol

you do know the GC can apply up to 8 textures without having to take another pass at the pixels (the Xbox can do 4)

xbox cant have the Graf rE4 has

and HALO etc dont compare to the RE4 grafs look at the Screens and demos
dont as i said you cant show one game on xbox with better grafs enough said point proven arguement over

 

[Newsboy1900]

HERE IS THE BACKUP FOR THE LAST TIME ABT THE GRAF


Now when you look at X-Box�s specs just about everything looks better, from RAM, MHz, and Memory Bus Bandwidth, it exceeds GameCube. You may say "wow! X-Box looks a lot more powerful than GameCube", but that�s where the line is drawn-it just looks better. X-Box has a lot of power that�s a given, but it�s nothing without control.

GameCube has hardware that�s a little dated when compared to X-Box, but that�s okay. GameCube�s one finely tweaked machine. The system architecture was designed to let the CPU/MPU, GPU, DSP, and RAM communicate, and interact with one another in total un-adulterated harmony.

GCN however, has the power where it counts. Here�s a good example�X-box has 64MB�s of shared DDR RAM, GameCube has 24MB�s of unified-standalone 1T-SRAM, along with 3MB�s on-chip, and a supplemental 16MB�s of SDRAM(AKA A-RAM("A" for Auxiliary)for a total of 43MB�s. But there�s a huge flaw with X-Box, DDR RAM is some of the slowest chunkiest RAM around. It�s double-data-rate, but that only boosts memory bus bandwidth (I'll get to that later). Now the designers at Nintendo knew that to get the maximum performance of the high-speed chipsets they�d need high speed RAM to boot. So with a call to MoSys Nintendo was able to get a deal to use the fastest RAM on the planet-MoSys 1T-SRAM. Calling it fast is a under statement. Its maximum latency has been clocked at only 10ns! The texture RAM has been clocked at half the speed 5ns! (Ns: Nanosecond 1-billionth of a second). This means that GCN will be able to stream textures in and out requiring less memory, and putting less strain on the CPU/GPU/MPU whose main job is to do calculations, and work with special Fx instead of crunching numbers.

Memory Bus Bandwidth(MBB). That�s how fast the RAM will be able to communicate with other parts of the system that use it. X-Box has a maximum of 6.4GB/s of it. GameCube has 3.2GB/s. But X-Box�s is shared. Shared you say? X-Box has 64MB�s of DDR RAM, and the developer can partion it for whatever they need. For a very simple example a developer can set aside 20MB�s as VRAM, 16 for sound, 20 for textures, 15 for animation, and 9 for the frame buffer(this is far simpler than what is actually done. Most developers will need over 20 portions). Now each of those portions will greedily take their share of the MBB, thus reducing transfer speeds to under 1GB/s (if your lucky). What does this mean to games? Well for the memory to be partioned the CPU�s going to need to manage each of those. So instead of working with AI, physics, and special effects the CPU crunching numbers. This can lead to slowdown, and since the developers can�t stream enough data in, and out quick enough more RAM will need to be used-taking away from textures, sound, animation, and the list goes on.

Polygons you say? Ahh yet another mercifully fought debate that has enraged for ages. Now lets go compare figures from both companies�

X-Box: 125M/sec
GameCube: 6 million to 12 million polygons/second (Display capability assuming actual game with complexity model, texture, etc.)
(I ripped these from the official sites)

Now note how on the official X-Box site there�s no disclaimer attached to it. It�s obviously the maximum performance rating which means absolutely nothing. It does not compensate for player interaction; the polygons are dull, flat shaded, similarly shaped, textureless, and no special effects engaged.

GameCube�s poly performance figures are noticeably low. But in typical Nintendo fashion Yamauchi wanted to keep the hype down, and made sure the poly performance wasn�t over the top. EA of Canada got they�re hands on some development kits, and in February this year they had announced performance figures of 22M/sec@60 FPS. Now cut the FPS rating in half, and you�ve doubled the poly count. And 30FPS, with 44M polygons on the screen that�s nothing short of awe inspiring.

 

[Aburame]

I am not going to argue with you any further.

and i KNOW the xbox can pump out better graphics than the GC, but i am not going to go into it any further, we aren't getting anywhere.

 

[Newsboy1900]

prove it prove that XBOX can shade better grafs you cant
xbox is good no doubt but the game makers for it are lazy hence gc will own it

 

[Aburame]

ok, i am gonna post some pics, then you can be quiet. actually I'm not. i will prove myself RIGHT.

DOOM 3! DOOM 3 can ONLY RUN on the xbox, its physicly IMPOSSIBLE for it to run on a Game Cube Or Play Station 2. that proves my point. xbox is the only consol that has enough power to run doom 3's complicated engine.

P0W3n4g3!

 

[Newsboy1900]

lol stop using early 90s chat l33t speak

doom 3 will be good yes but as of now nothen can beat re4

 

[Newsboy1900]

and thats the eng we r talking abt grafs