WW III Already Begun

[Michie]

I think I'm seeing a phenomenon I'll call "Christian horror".

It combines the cant-look-away scares and dread of horror and disaster flicks with Church approved Bible messages. Its an addictive form of entertainment and cuts the boredom in peoples lives.

Look at the websites and videos promoting this stuff. Pretty much tells the story.

 

[durangodawood]

No it's humankind horror. With all the deaths around the world and conflicts, we rarely hear about. Countries inching toward nuclear escalation.

The humans are doing some really stupid and perilous things for sure.

But I'm talking about the way its being played for entertainment with a little spice of glee mixed into the horror. So fun!

 

[Kokavkrystallos]

Let's not fall for such rhetoric, shall we? The word " could" is not sufficient enough to claim that it has already happened. This post is misleading and adds fear into tbe life of a Christian when we should focus on LOVE. Let us reason, please.
Be blessed.

There should be no fear into the life of a Christian, and speaking of love - perfect love casts out fear (1 John 4:18)

I think the writer is looking at all the war scenarios in the world, and realizing that some of them could easily escalate into WW3. Also, he is saying there are wars going on all over the world, so the world is at war.

I know this is a far stretch to something like a thermonuclear holocaust. But let the West and Russia keep it up, or provocations on the Korean peninsula and that can quickly become reality. Basically the world is a powderkeg with a lit fuse and we have no idea how much longer that fuse has to burn.

As a believer in Christ I am not fearful of such things as I look at it as a blessing, in that such things must happen before Jesus returns, and if we look at Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, Revelation, a long with some of the prophecies in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel & Daniel, we should know things at some point get worse than they are now, and as Jesus said, worse than ever before, or ever shall be.

Look up, for your redemption draweth nigh! amen

 

[Isaac the Recluse]

I've been wondering lately, whose call is it? Not the individual conflicts/wars, but the terminology. Whose call is it to say "This is WW3"?

 

[Pommer]

I've been wondering lately, whose call is it? Not the individual conflicts/wars, but the terminology. Whose call is it to say "This is WW3"?

There’s a significant number of people here who seemingly think that “the end times” would be a “good thing” to have happen during their lifetimes.
Some apparently haven’t thought this all the way through, though.

 

[Isaac the Recluse]

I completely agree. Bad as things are, they could be much, much worse. I'm in no hurry to see "the end times". I do, however, think we're already making such a mess of things, our only hope is His return.

Going back to terminology though, warfare has changed its' appearance from the 20th Century. I waver between thinking we're already in WW3 to thinking there will never be anything called that. Additionally, I don't know from where do I have the idea that "end times" and WW3 are the same thing.

 

[Pommer]

I completely agree. Bad as things are, they could be much, much worse. I'm in no hurry to see "the end times". I do, however, think we're already making such a mess of things, our only hope is His return.

From my perspective ain’t no-One coming, if we end up being the end of ourselves…hey, we had a good run.

Going back to terminology though, warfare has changed its' appearance from the 20th Century. I waver between thinking we're already in WW3 to thinking there will never be anything called that. Additionally, I don't know from where do I have the idea that "end times" and WW3 are the same thing.

World War III has not happened largely because of this fact.
If enough people decide that they’d survive better than their enemies, it’ll be much more likely.

 

[Jipsah]

The times of “the end of the world” will be exciting I’m sure.
It does not follow, however, that “exciting times” are the hallmark of the “end of the world”…yet. So…

CT

Let's not fall for such rhetoric, shall we? The word " could" is not sufficient enough to claim that it has already happened. This post is misleading and adds fear into tbe life of a Christian when we should focus on LOVE. Let us reason, please.
Be blessed.

oh, c’mon, where’s the fun in that?

 

[Panthers]

This will be WW6 for those of us who kept watch.

 

[Lost4words]

Always has been wars raging around the world. No different now than at every century that has gone past...

 

[Hazelelponi]

This will be WW6 for those of us who kept watch.

They say peace peace when there is no peace.

 

[RDKirk]

So says this article:

"We are already fighting World War III. No, it is not empires marching armies through countries, conquering continents. And no, it isn’t millions of young men (and now women) pressed in uniform on scales of nearly 100 years ago. And no, in most societies where war is a constant, the public doesn’t even have to feel the pain of war, except in that the military dominates everything and robs everything else of resources: programs to fight poverty, food, housing, health care, transportation, climate change.

World War III instead is all around, a planet that is aflame with armed conflict and awash in arms sales, an overlapping Venn diagram of killing that engulfs the globe, and a constant bonanza for national security “experts” and the military–industrial complex.

Let’s take a tour of the battlefield.

In the Middle East, the U.S., Turkey, Iraq, and even Iran all have footholds in Syria as their internal civil war continues unabated. And all of it goes unremarked most of the time as people look elsewhere for World War II-like battles. Iranian; Iranian-funded or backed or inspired; or independent militias in Syria and Iraq target U.S. troops in Syria, Iraq, and now Jordan. The United States bombs, but so does Israel, and Turkey, and other silent partners of Washington in the war against Iran, and Syria, and ISIS, and Hezbollah. The fight against ISIS, Operation Inherent Resolve, the U.S. says, involves 80-plus “partners” fighting not just in Syria and Iraq, but also in Afghanistan and Libya. A coalition of 80-plus countries — but the U.S. is loath to name them all, especially the allied “special” operators who are clandestinely working on the ground.

What we do know is that 10 countries have been involved in airstrikes on Houthi targets in Yemen, including the U.S., United Kingdom, Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, New Zealand, and South Korea. Like so many other conflicts, it’s not altogether clear who bombed who or from where, nor other members of the supporting cast. The U.S. bombs from aircraft carriers and from the Gulf states, and from Kuwait and Jordan, and possibly even from Saudi Arabia and Oman. But World War III is about keeping things secret, so who knows.

In the Red Sea, these same countries — plus France, Italy, Norway, Seychelles, Spain, Greece, Finland, Australia, and Sri Lanka — have joined to fend off Houthi attacks at sea. Even more countries are allegedly participating in the coalition in secret, given the sensitivities surrounding support for Israel during its war with Hamas. But then there’s also the war against pirates, and the war against nuclear proliferation, and the war against arms smuggling, and the Middle East war even against drugs, all carried out by a vast international maritime fleet involving dozens of countries.

While Israel’s war in Gaza, and its back and forth with Iran, is atop the Billboard charts for now, in Ukraine, a trench war and a standoff has now dragged on for more than two years. Here as well, all eyes have been on some kind of decisive victory or defeat, but World War III is more characterized by Ukraine or its proxies regularly attacking targets inside Mother Russia, attacks that Moscow downplays. Russians fighting on the Ukrainian side are now making regular incursions into Russia’s Belgorod and Kursk regions. Meanwhile, the real World War III is NATO already at war with Russia, increasing its activities adjacent to the enemy, expanding its ranks, building up its military, and supplying arms to Ukraine. The United States, meanwhile, is deployed from Norway to Bulgaria, and has in the past two years built up a major new base in Poland. Meanwhile, Iran and North Korea have played their part in shuttling drones, missiles, and artillery shells into the Russian war effort.

Though the blatant Russian invasion seems to embody the old-fashioned concept of occupying armies and World War II, the reality is that Ukraine never turned into “the largest tank battle” ever, as some predicted, nor did it “escalate” to nuclear war, nor has it even been decisive.

The war in Ukraine is certainly the world-altering event of the past five years, but even here, without more borders crossed, without escalation, and without Russia and NATO shooting at each other directly, some mighty lessons can be learned. Armies clashing is an illusion. World War III is thus not some conquering army sweeping its way across the continent. At no time have more than 300,000 soldiers been on the battlefield in Ukraine at any one time; in World War II, it was nearly 10 million facing each other on a daily basis (and some 125 million mobilized overall). Because of the greater lethality of weapons, military casualties in Ukraine have been enormous. But most of the ground engagements have taken place at the company or even platoon level; massing too many troops in one place is just too dangerous in today’s world. And this has all unfolded while neither Russia nor Ukraine have been able to harness airpower in the same way the United States has. Other than Vladimir Putin’s heartless offensive that used young Russian men as cannon fodder, few nations want to fight this way, preferring long-range air and missile (and now drone) attacks.

South of Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Armenia continue to simmer. Last year, Azerbaijan attacked the breakaway republic of Artsakh. With the backing of Turkey and Israeli weapons, Azerbaijan attempted to permanently squash the ethnic Armenian enclave, successfully driving tens of thousands of civilians into neighboring countries.

Past the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean, the South China Sea is also brimming with maritime conflict. Constant Chinese naval passes around the borders of Taiwan are supplemented with close calls with South Korea, Japan and the Philippines (and the United States). Meanwhile, Myanmar’s civil war continues unabated.

On the Korean Peninsula, North Korea continues nuclear testing and the unannounced firing of ballistic missiles into the ocean, and tensions are a constant background noise of war games, military incursions, and cross-border incidents. Thousands of artillery batteries stare each other down across the Demilitarized Zone, as South Korea points the finger at North Korean technology used in Iranian missiles launched toward Israel. And, of course, the United States and other “partners” are active on the ground.

In a world of supposed “international order,” India and Pakistan continue to fight over their common border, as they have been doing for decades. And India and China face off, another flashpoint that could spell World War III to some but one that is already here in reality.

In Africa, military forces, terrorists, militants, mercenaries, militias, bandits, pirates, and separatists are active, according to the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project, in Angola, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Kenya, Madagascar, Mali, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Rwanda, South Sudan, and Sudan. China and Russia scramble for bases and influence (China already has a base in Djibouti). Russia’s Wagner Group is active in Africa and involved in combat, and in the past two months, Rwandan military forces have attacked targets in the DRC, and Morocco has conducted drone strikes on Polisario fighters near the Western Sahara border.

On the African continent, the U.S., France, and the U.K. have been engaged in expansive yet clandestine fighting, supposedly against Islamic terrorists, while all around the continent smolders and neither can claim any long-term wins on the dual fronts of counterterrorism and peacekeeping. American troops operating in Niger are stuck as the country’s U.S. government-trained junta claims America’s footprint is illegal. The United States has also been bombing targets in Somalia for years now, and the African Union mission in Somalia has been actively involved in combating al-Shabab.

U.S. forces continue to fan out across Latin America and the Caribbean, using missile cruisers to intercept drug smuggling submarines, sending marine anti-terrorism teams into a fully destabilized Haiti, and fast-tracking exports of helicopters, aircraft, and naval drones to Guyana as its neighbor Venezuela hungrily eyes its oil reserves. Senior Biden administration officials have floated sending U.S. troops into the treacherous swatch of jungle connecting South and Central America known as the Darién Gap to stem the flow of migrants and drugs across the U.S. southern border.

And what even happened to neutrality in the past few years? Switzerland and Austria have provided arms to Ukraine. Sweden and Finland have joined NATO. Only little Costa Rica, Iceland, Mauritius, Panama, and Vanuatu have no formal armed forces, but even there, Iceland is a very active member of NATO and Panama is a close military ally of the U.S. Speaking of small countries taking on big fights, Fiji and Luxembourg both count themselves as members of the global coalition to defeat ISIS.

Ubiquitous warfare, our World War III, paints a worldwide picture that is overwhelming, leaving little room to imagine that something can be done about it. And it’s hard not to conclude that the superpowers and the national security “community” aren’t somehow satisfied with the status quo. But as with addiction, the first step toward recovery is admitting you have a problem — or in this case, a global war.

Israel Attack on Iran Is What World War III Looks Like

Like countless other hostilities, the stealthy Israeli missile and drone strike on Iran doesn’t risk war. It is war.

theintercept.com

And they forgot to mention the US could erupt into civil war like 2020 or worse, and it's an election year with the same players talking and acting more ugly than they did in 2020

And a war over the border between Venezuela and Guyana could also occur

Ubiquitous warfare been the state of mankind all along. Continual wars, rumors of wars, and preparation for wars is the normal state of mankind. Western Europe had an unprecedented half-century of peace...and young Westerners fell into the belief that peace had been historical normalcy.

 

[Oseas]

From my perspective ain’t no-One coming, if we end up being the end of ourselves…hey, we had a good run.
World War III has not happened largely because of this fact.
If enough people decide that they’d survive better than their enemies, it’ll be much more likely.

WWIII is a very old theme in this site, and has already been posted here there will be no WWIII, except a WAR against three unclean SPIRITS like frogs-Revelation 16:13-15.

No WWIII

Russia Preparing for War.

Apart from prophetic visions it is unlikely the Russians will start full scale invasion. The geopolitical risks are just too great. Think the estimates were now 60% for settled negotiation, 30% for some limited land grab and 10% for full invasion. I don't think limited land grab is an option...

www.christianforums.com

posts #227 to #240 - take a look

 

[Richard T]

It's exactly the opposite of what you think.

From here (albeit from 12 years ago):

'In fact, over the course of the last two decades, warfare has been quietly disappearing from the planet. The world in 2012 is a less violent, less belligerent place than at any time in recorded history.

Although it may seem counterintuitive to those whose historical perspective has been warped by the twenty-four-hour-news cycle, levels of conflict, both in terms of number and magnitude, have been dropping steadily since the end of the Cold War. A series of empirical analyses done in the United States and Canada have consistently shown that the number of wars of all types—interstate, civil, ethnic, revolutionary, etc. —declined throughout the 1990s and into the new century. The risk for the average person of dying violently at the hands of enemies has never been lower.'

And as regards Israel's attack on Iran, from here: https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...es-hit-site-iran-abc-news-reports-2024-04-19/

'Iran's foreign minister said the drones, which the sources said Israel launched against the city of Isfahan, were "mini-drones" and that they had caused no damage or casualties.'

If that's what you want to propose as a definition World War III then maybe you need to look up the word 'hyperbole.'

Statistically you right, I think the elevated status of war is because nearly everyone is spending more and there are far more rumours of war going on now. Let's hope the causualties go down instead of ramping up.