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wrong deeds don't send us to hell?

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a friend of mine believes that she doesn't sin, but does wrong things. only sin can send her to hell...and i just about quote that. sin is God's word and so therefore, she's not a sinner and doesn't need to be saved by grace. i tried my best to explain the matter to her. i can see exactly what she's getting at. another excuse. but, really...i need help. i'm not sure what else to say. i told her that sin is just a synonym for wrong things. bad deeds send us to hell. sin is just another word for it. i don't know, but she's being serverely influenced by her ahtheist and wicca friends and she's convinced that Satan loves her more the God. that worries me.
 

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BlackRain said:
a friend of mine believes that she doesn't sin, but does wrong things. only sin can send her to hell...and i just about quote that. sin is God's word and so therefore, she's not a sinner and doesn't need to be saved by grace. i tried my best to explain the matter to her. i can see exactly what she's getting at. another excuse. but, really...i need help. i'm not sure what else to say. i told her that sin is just a synonym for wrong things. bad deeds send us to hell. sin is just another word for it. i don't know, but she's being serverely influenced by her ahtheist and wicca friends and she's convinced that Satan loves her more the God. that worries me.

Maybe she doesn't understand that whether she sins or not, the fact that she is a human, declared a sinner by God, and that is what will send her to hell, not accepting the grace of forgivness extended by God.
 
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John 3:16-18
16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
(NIV)



Matthew 22:36-40
36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
(NIV)


John 14:23-24
23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
24 He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.
(NIV)
 
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BlackRain said:
a friend of mine believes that she doesn't sin, but does wrong things. only sin can send her to hell...and i just about quote that. sin is God's word and so therefore, she's not a sinner and doesn't need to be saved by grace. i tried my best to explain the matter to her. i can see exactly what she's getting at. another excuse. but, really...i need help. i'm not sure what else to say. i told her that sin is just a synonym for wrong things. bad deeds send us to hell. sin is just another word for it. i don't know, but she's being serverely influenced by her ahtheist and wicca friends and she's convinced that Satan loves her more the God. that worries me.

Only way to save yourself from going to hell is to accept the free gift of salvation through our Savior & Lord Jesus Christ and that He will come into your heart only if you ask Him. That you can repent and be forgiven of your sins and have your slate wiped clean.
 
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Thatz how most of those who fell into wicca/satanism thought, that God hates them and Satan loves them.

Although all those who practice wicca/satanism are able to enjoy the evil power, wordly pleasures and wealth which Satan or Satanists can provide to them, they end-up living deeply messed-up lives. Its like plunging into a deep pit without knowing where it is going to end.

Wicca is Witchcraft and Witchcraft (and/or Sorcery) is a sin according to the Bible and a sin in the sight of our Heavenly Father. Satanism is nothing but Idolatory which is clearly a sin according to the Bible and in the sight of the Living, Eternal, Unbegotten, Infinite Creator (Heavenly Father).

I agree that Lord Jesus Christ loves them (and shed His precious blood for them also) and is able to save even such people too if they return to Him at any point in their life or even at the end of their life. But, they could have done a lot better by not entering into that kind of life before itself.

Although, it is entirely upto your friend to decide her life. Since, you have the love for her as a friend, you want to help her. You may be the only few christian friends she might be having who are able to discuss these matters with her.

There are Bible Verses for those who think that they are not sinners. Self-Righteousness is also a kind of sin. A feeling of pride that one is sinless is also a kind of sin.

Bible Verses to prove that we are all sinners -

Isaiah 64:6 - But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Romans 3:9-12 - ".....that they are all under sin; 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

1 John 1:8-10 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Some verses which list out some sins (a few of which even we might not have overcome yet!) -

Romans 1:29-32 - Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Galatians 5:19-21 - Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Some helpful links -

Cecily's Testimony - http://www.spiritualcuriosity.com/curiosity/cecily-satanism.htm

Candace's Testimony - http://www.christian-faith.com/testimonies/candace.html

Exposing Satanism Site - http://www.exposingsatanism.org/index.htm

If you search on the Net, you may find a lot more Testimonials about Ex-Wiccans and Ex-Satanists who were saved from the dangerous clutches of Satan.

Continue to be a loving friend to her and impress upon her all these things in a loving way.

We can only hope and pray that she is convinced and takes a better decision and that she encounters Lord Jesus Christ in a personal way.

If you already happen to know all the above, consider the reply as a simple contribution to this discussion and let us hope it may benefit anyone else who goes through this thread.

Lord bless you, lead you and guide you always.
 
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