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Writers Group? Yes/No?

twosid

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Is this a must or just something for fun? The last time I was in one I wound up having to lock a guy up because he started calling my house and hanging up all night for weeks on end. He had also threatened to come by and shoot in my windows etc. (because my stories weren't scary enough) haha. Anyhow....I realize the chances of me running into another nut case are probably slim but just wonder about the value of joining one as the good ones around here are going to be a long drive for me.
 

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hMmmm...that is pretty craazy...

Well, it's beneficial and of course it has its downside. It really depends on the people who you pick. Make sure it's someone who you could trust and isn't someone that just says "good story" and moves on.

Of course, remember writing alone is the best opinion. Not trying to say lock yourself in a closet and write for the rest of your life in solitude. Your writing won't get blogged down by other people's critism. So I would suggest to show it when you're done with most of it or need some ideas.

It's like this: You are carving a statue out of a truck. But you only did little work and want to show your friend. So when you show your friend, he tells you what to do and not to do, altering your work. If you didn't ask him at all, it's not damaged. Do it when it's finished.

Just be cautious of writing groups. It isn't the cure for everything.
 
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Just a quick opinion on writing groups. Writing groups are good for completed short stories. For novels, I feel they don’t work as well. One reason is that lot of people don’t complete the whole novel first before asking for reviews of their work. But if you were to do a writing group I would do it online like at Writing.com or Critique Circle.
 
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I agree with Twosid totally - and what TimeB. said -- I think it's like studying - you get more done when you're by yourself.
I tend to shy from writer's groups in that someone could purposely or accidently copy off of me. ;-)
But joining one for networking and marketing later on down the line, when your novel is done - isn't a bad idea.
 
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That is freaky. Though, I don't know how stalking you would turn you into Stephen King. =)

I've recently joined faithwriters.com

I'm skeptical about publishing my pieces online for anyone and everyone to see. I'm pretty selective when it comes to sharing. I do have an online journal, but it serves a different purpose.

Have any of you been long term members of faithwriters? If so, what is your take on its services and your experience with it thus far?
 
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I'm not sure how you got a stalker from your group--but if it was a face-to-face writers group, maybe the guy was just trying to establish a reputation as the baddest ape in the herd.

Anyway, back on subject. Yes, writers groups are helpful under certain circumstances. The biggest thing is you have to be in a group with people who know how to write for publication. Let me repeat that. You have to be in a group with people who know how to write for publication. The problem is, most writers groups are populated with well-meaning people, but few if any have the rare combination of determination, talent, and discernment to write for publication. I can think of a writer's group at my college that was headed by an English professor and populated with teenagers. I can't vouch for the group members, but the professor's work was atrocious--he was only published because he self-published. I read the first page of his novel and there were four paragraphs describing in detail the driveway in front of the main character's house. Four long paragraphs for one ribbon-like loop of packed gravel in front of an old brick-facade plantation house. With an introduction like that, one can only speculate why Warner didn't offer him a million dollar advance on his manuscript.

I have found that you stand a better chance of running across a good group online, simply because the diversity that is inherent to any group assembled on the World Wide Web. However, with the good comes the bad--the really bad--and that’s where discernment comes in.

It’s one thing for somebody to pick apart your work because they truly have a feel for why a certain section of dialogue doesn’t flow or because you’re too wordy in the descriptive narrative at the beginning of a passage and you loose the intensity and momentum you would have otherwise carried over from the previous section. It’s quite another when you have somebody who is tearing apart your work because they can’t stand not to, making up silly reasons to support their insistence that James should drop to his knees and pray for guidance when Molly lies to him about where she was the night before instead of storming out to his truck and driving off like a lunatic as you had originally written it.

I’d say for every ten people in an online critique group, you may have one or two who give truly beneficial critiques. The others will range from the useless to the asinine.

Would I recommend an online writing group? Yes--definitely. If all ten people say something’s wrong, then odds are, something’s wrong. Besides that, it’s a good weather gauge for your work. You get relatively immediate feedback and you can gauge the relevance of that feedback by evaluating the others comments each member made about other writers’ work. If you evaluate every critique carefully, you can find something useful in just about every one. It’s a growing experience. I would suggest that you use the online writing group as a sounding board for your first and subsequent drafts, but not your final draft. Once you invest the time in rewriting and editing your manuscript and you’re ready for a final draft, don’t let anyone steer you away from your vision. The final draft should incorporate your interpretation of all the suggestions you got along the way. The final draft is your baby, your polished gem.

One last thing about critique groups, don’t post everything you’ve got to them. I’d suggest posting the first chapter and a few follow-up chapters. Once you have received feedback on five or six chapters, you should have a general idea of what mistakes you’re making and how to avoid them. The first chapter is vital to post, because that’s what readers in bookstores are going to check out when they thumb through your book. If you don’t hook them in those first few sentences, you can forget it. That more than anything is why I recommend writer’s groups--the group members are readers, by definition, and if you can hook them into reading your work, you know you’ve got a good chance of hooking readers anywhere and everywhere.
 
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