Would you?

[]RiSeN[]

Proverbs 12:15 - "The way of the foolish one is wise in his own eyes, but the one listening to counsel is wise."

 

[Ninja Turtles]

I most definately would. These were some of the most evil men in memory who caused many people much pain and destroyed lives. It would definately be worth it, in my mind, to prevent those men from inflicting that harm on people by one death.

Here's a question, how far can you go back?

 

[]RiSeN[]

Here is an even better question; What wisdom am i gaining from pondering or answering this question?

 

[Antoninus Verus]

He looks not for answers, only more questions.

What's so wrong about that? If you know all the questions, then you can begin knowing all the answers.

Here's a question, how far can you go back?

Far as you want.

Here is an even better question; What wisdom am i gaining from pondering or answering this question?

I dont know, thats not for me to decide. You may gain some, you may gain none. Its like a box of chocolates, ya never know whatcha gonna get! If you think its such a pointless topic, dont reply. Simple as that

 

[ChristianCenturion]

Angel, this is not about religion, your religious and devoted, fabulous. But the OT did not mention religion at all

The Old Testament DID mention a submission to God's will and a knowledge that He is in control at all times. It mentions faith many times... or did you mean to say OP instead? In that case, see above for the reason why I would not.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

I do expect christians to answer in a christian manner. The answer she gave wasn't an answer at all...it was completely unrelated. I expect christians who post in response to threads or particular posts to address that thread or post, not make some completely unrelated point aobut their reloigious belef.

I hear frustration IS usually caused by unmet expectations. Perhaps it would be wiser to realize that one cannot control others and one can simply move on about their business if another person doesn't act as one wishes.
It's a freedom thing.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Lol

 

[Archivist]

The OP--to keep this on point--reminds me of several of the old Star Trek shows. If you go back and save someone you could be changing history. Perhaps the person you save goes on to become the next Hitler or gives birth to the next Stalin. Perhaps by saving one person millions of people who would otherwise have lived end up dying. You might go back and save some one only to find that you can't return to the future because the future you left no longer exists.

 

[Ninja Turtles]

Oh you can return to the future, but it would a new future, one which incorporates the murder you committed. You might see a very different world too, let's say you stop any o the World Wars, then the power distribution around the world would look very different, it would probably change the entire dynamic of the world. I would expect that no one here now would be here as I treat it like chaos, like the butterfly flapping it's wings, your choice causes a firestorm around the world.

Trying to reshape the future is dangerous. Imagine what would happen if someone went to put everything in place because they want some sort of prophecy to come true.

 

[Donut Hole]

If you had the opportunity to go back in history and prevent murderers like Charles Whitman, Ted Bundy, Theodore Kazynschy(sp), and others like those men from committing your crimes by killing them, would you?

I most definately would. These were some of the most evil men in memory who caused many people much pain and destroyed lives. It would definately be worth it, in my mind, to prevent those men from inflicting that harm on people by one death.

Yes, I would. Or should, anyway.

 

[Ninja Turtles]

Yes, I would. Or should, anyway.

Aren't you worried about the temporal effects of you actions?

 

[Donut Hole]

Aren't you worried about the temporal effects of you actions?

Perhaps some, but I would think it's more likely that the net effects would be good.

But I don't know whether there would be temporal effects in the first place. The idea that there would be is a philosophical one based upon our preconceptions about what should happen, not upon any evidence. It makes assumptions about the nature of reality/the universe which may or may not be accurate - and I have no way to tell whether they are.

 

[Ninja Turtles]

Perhaps some, but I would think it's more likely that the net effects would be good.

But I don't know whether there would be temporal effects in the first place. The idea that there would be is a philosophical one based upon our preconceptions about what should happen, not upon any evidence. It makes assumptions about the nature of reality/the universe which may or may not be accurate - and I have no way to tell whether they are.

Good point, I guess also from the people chosen in the OP, they would have a localized effect if anything. However, say a leader like Hitler or a president of the U.S. was removed, that would probably have huge repercussions.

I wonder what would have happened if someone went back in time and decided to cure Roosevelt's polio, what kind of president would he be, and would he have served more than four terms? I love time travel.

 

[blackwasp]

Oh you can return to the future, but it would a new future, one which incorporates the murder you committed. You might see a very different world too, let's say you stop any o the World Wars, then the power distribution around the world would look very different, it would probably change the entire dynamic of the world. I would expect that no one here now would be here as I treat it like chaos, like the butterfly flapping it's wings, your choice causes a firestorm around the world.

Yes, I wouldn't go back for this reason. Also, what would be accomplished by "righting" murders that occurred years ago?

 

[ZACTAK]

I wouldn't, because from every case there is something is learned in the criminal justice system to make it better. If I knew someone was going to commit a crime in current time, then that is a different story, but I would not go back and stop someone from doing their deeds, otherwise our criminal justice system would not be as sophisticated as it is today.

 

[Electric Skeptic]

Actually you said in a moral hypothetical , there were only two choices , and one either needed to choose one or the other or not waste anyones time debating anything else basically . To that end , I responded that its pretty much the same way with God , you can either do things His way or your own , there isnt another option , so do you believe that when you post other veiws than those 2 on this forum that you waste peoples time? I dont get what you arent getting about relevance to what YOU stated .

Your response was in no way related to or relevant to the OP or my post.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Your response was in no way related to or relevant to the OP or my post.

LOL this is the second time you have said that . If you just wanted to talk to me , you could have pmed me .

 

[]RiSeN[]

The point i think she is trying to make and that you fail to grasp is this; the question/disscussion of the OP is a waste of time. Why? because no wisdom can be gained from it, only opinions, ensued by bickering over these opinions, and then, more questions. Why? because it is unguided and hypothetical. Start this thread if your so interested in hypothetical circular reasoning and want to waste poeples time; "Can God create a rock so big even he cant lift it?" Here's the answer :By asking this we seek only knowledge, and we pretend to be able to wield this knowledge for the understanding of God lack of limitation. Not wise.

 

[Angel4Truth]

The point i think she is trying to make and that you fail to grasp is this; the question/disscussion of the OP is a waste of time. Why? because no wisdom can be gained from it, only opinions, ensued by bickering over these opinions, and then, more questions. Why? because it is unguided and hypothetical. Start this thread if your so interested in hypothetical circular reasoning and want to waste poeples time; "Can God create a rock so big even he cant lift it?" Here's the answer :By asking this we seek only knowledge, and we pretend to be able to wield this knowledge for the understanding of God lack of limitation. Not wise.

 

[]RiSeN[]

"Therefore settle it in your hearts not to rehearse beforehand how to make your defense, for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your opposers together will not be able to resist or dispute"- Luke 21:14-15