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twin1954

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In my opinion, that would be like shooting your toe off because you have a hangnail, or an ingrown toenail. How in the world could a Christian, who knows the Word, vote for a man like Obama? And before you say it, yes, I know there are a lot who have and who will, but I do not think that they have a clue as to how to discern God's Will, or even have the reasoning ability to think about what they are doing. We have seen that many Evangelicals react with their emotions, and make decisions based on emotions. I don't think that can even be debated. Their theology certainly has a large emotional component.

I'm not happy with the current crop of Republicans. The best ones either didn't run, dropped out early, or stayed out for personal reasons. Romney, is bad news, as far as I can see. Newt has flaws, but he may be the best we have. Santorum just doesn't inspire or get people moving, although he has some good things to say. Paul is a nutjob, IMHO, and God knows, we don't need a nutjob at a time like this. Slim pickin's is what we have, and I don't mean the actor.

It is an absolute truth that not voting is a default vote for Obama. Writing in a name is also in essence a vote for Obama. The only hope we have is to vote for whoever the Republican nominee is, holding your nose if you have to, if for no other reason that to NOT give an easy victory to Obama. We simply cannot afford 4 more years of the muslim-in-chief. But we can petition God and pray that He gives us the best one, and pray that that one is not Romney.

If you don't vote at all, you have no right to complain about what we get. No right at all.
I was being sarcastic when I said that I am about ready to vote for Mr. Obama. I would rather cut my throat, which is what those who do vote for him will being doing.
I will be voting. I haven't missed a national election in almost 40 years.
 
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no i hate mitt romney and everything he stands for.

Hate? So he is a successful businessman and former governor of a state who happens to be a Mormon, why the hate?
 
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Well, the thing is... politics! LOL sorry..my bad... right now the polls are biased... and really you can't go by them they are so slanted and flawed and based upon flexible data.

What is true is that whomever the Republican nominee is will probably beat Obama IF Christians vote. If we don't get out the vote maybe not. 1 in 4 Christians aren't even registered to vote. Ask your neighbors, hand out registration forms... don't ask or tell who to vote for, just tell them to register and vote!
 
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Well, the thing is... politics! LOL sorry..my bad... right now the polls are biased... and really you can't go by them they are so slanted and flawed and based upon flexible data.

What is true is that whomever the Republican nominee is will probably beat Obama IF Christians vote. If we don't get out the vote maybe not. 1 in 4 Christians aren't even registered to vote. Ask your neighbors, hand out registration forms... don't ask or tell who to vote for, just tell them to register and vote!

Well said! I agree.
 
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So, what is the alternative? You don't want to vote for either of the viable options, but offer nothing in it's place.

Me? I'd be for overthrowing the government (as the Declaration of Independence suggests is every patriots duty), but I can't do it alone.
It is not a question of alternatives, but rather a question of what we should DO...or as Frances Schaeffer once put it: How Then Shall We Live?

For my own purposes, i will vote for THE BEST CANDIDATE, without regard to his so-called electability, because in the final analysis, i have to give an answer

A long time ago, there was a new political party that had formed. In the second Presidential election that they had participated in their candidate had to deal with three other candidates splitting the vote.

That political party is today called the Republican Party, and it's candidate in 1860, Abraham Lincoln prevailed to win.

As for what to do? Trust God and do what one thinks best, and accept God's promises to us as individuals and as a group.

Countries come, countries fade away. We have to maintain our perspective.

Incidentally, you and i are about the same age. i can't speak for you, but i'm getting a little too old to lead an under equipped poorly trained platoon of boys and old men into combat or an insurgency war...and it's something i hope i never have to see in my life time. Mind you, i'm prepared to do it if i have to...as any American should be...but it is something i NEVER want to see.

We can reverse this trend going on with our country. i have been following a candidate...won't say which one...who ran last time. That candidate has started something of a national movement, and many of that candidate's views are now being spouted by other candidates.

While that candidate will probably not win barring direct Divine intervention, the movement will go on. It will change this country. Haven't seen anything like this since the anti war demonstrations of the late 60's-early 70's.

A long time ago i learned something:

What will NOT be tolerated will either not come into existence, or will become extinct.

If the nonsense we find ourselves living under is not tolerated, it will cease to be soon enough.




 
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It is not a question of alternatives, but rather a question of what we should DO...or as Frances Schaeffer once put it: How Then Shall We Live?

For my own purposes, i will vote for THE BEST CANDIDATE, without regard to his so-called electability, because in the final analysis, i have to give an answer

A long time ago, there was a new political party that had formed. In the second Presidential election that they had participated in their candidate had to deal with three other candidates splitting the vote.

That political party is today called the Republican Party, and it's candidate in 1860, Abraham Lincoln prevailed to win.

As for what to do? Trust God and do what one thinks best, and accept God's promises to us as individuals and as a group.

Countries come, countries fade away. We have to maintain our perspective.

Incidentally, you and i are about the same age. i can't speak for you, but i'm getting a little too old to lead an under equipped poorly trained platoon of boys and old men into combat or an insurgency war...and it's something i hope i never have to see in my life time. Mind you, i'm prepared to do it if i have to...as any American should be...but it is something i NEVER want to see.

We can reverse this trend going on with our country. i have been following a candidate...won't say which one...who ran last time. That candidate has started something of a national movement, and many of that candidate's views are now being spouted by other candidates.

While that candidate will probably not win barring direct Divine intervention, the movement will go on. It will change this country. Haven't seen anything like this since the anti war demonstrations of the late 60's-early 70's.

A long time ago i learned something:

What will NOT be tolerated will either not come into existence, or will become extinct.

If the nonsense we find ourselves living under is not tolerated, it will cease to be soon enough.
Well reasoned. I just don't know if such a candidate exists as all candidates have flaws. God will put in charge who He wants to be in charge to serve His divine purpose. Pharoah served God's purpose as the OT details. What His purposes are now, I do not know but do know I trust Him.
 
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I would prefer any Republican candidate remaining over who we have now in the oval office, the pundits can talk all they want about why Gingrich lost badly in Florida after a magnificent win in South Carolina but for me it was largely due to his attacks on Romneys involvement in Bain Capital.

One can't be for free enterprise on the one hand and then vilify a successful entrepreneur for succeeding in business on the other, that is class warfare right out of the Obama camp.
 
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I would prefer any Republican candidate remaining over who we have now in the oval office, the pundits can talk all they want about why Gingrich lost badly in Florida after a magnificent win in South Carolina but for me it was largely due to his attacks on Romneys involvement in Bain Capital.

One can't be for free enterprise on the one hand and then vilify a successful entrepreneur for succeeding in business on the other, that is class warfare right out of the Obama camp.
Right. Excellent point.

As far as I know, Romney has done nothing illegal or unethical, in office or in business. As for Gingrich, if I remember correctly, he left Congress because of a cloud of ethics charges hanging over his head. Whether they were true or trumped up, I do not know. But if he ends up being the candidate, the Democrats would be fools not to bring those charges up again. Then there's his private life and business practices when he claims to not have been a lobbyist. I think we should focus on the current occupant of the WH, instead of getting sidetracked.
 
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{For the record, the democrats are the ones who brought the charges against Gingrich. They were all dropped! They had held out on one last one, after the others were dismissed...but it was so insignificant, it was dropped as well (using a political consultant to develop the Republican legislative agenda.)

HOWEVER Gingrich was the one who went back to them and said, hey, I'll pay a fine ($300,000) of which many of the congress chipped in to help pay it...along with other public Republicans. }

This is a non-matter and Romney's dredging it up just shows me that he's a typical low life politician at this point in his life, and may do anything (or say anything) to be elected. IDK.

IMO Gingrich didn't carry FL because he failed to appeal directly to the Catholic base. When McCain ran, he knew he had to have that vote...(I assisted in designating the churches on the local FL map for the volunteers to hand out flyers at each Catholic church the Sunday before the election...McCain carried the Catholic vote strongly.)
 
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Right. Excellent point.

As far as I know, Romney has done nothing illegal or unethical, in office or in business. As for Gingrich, if I remember correctly, he left Congress because of a cloud of ethics charges hanging over his head. Whether they were true or trumped up, I do not know. But if he ends up being the candidate, the Democrats would be fools not to bring those charges up again. Then there's his private life and business practices when he claims to not have been a lobbyist. I think we should focus on the current occupant of the WH, instead of getting sidetracked.

I concur, focus on this Administrations failures, once there's a Republican nominee that will happen.
 
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I just do not trust Romney. He just seems to be more of the same. Until we limit the terms a Congressman can occupy a seat, not sure anyone will make much of a difference in the White House.
 
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Do you all believe that Romney is more liberal than Obama?

No way, not even close. He has become more conservative with age, (that is often the case with former liberals), Ronald Reagan was a Democrat before maturity and life experiences showed him the error of his ways. Maybe Romney is lying just to get elected but I would rather vote for him if he is the nominee and take my chances than vote for Obama, I know for certain what I'm getting with him.
 
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I honestly believe there is not one single politician in any party in the US government that is not a liar and a cheat. I think that not one person in the entire lot actually cares at all about this country or any other. I think they are all out for themselves and their special interest groups and they use tax money to achieve their personal goals because it's the biggest resource around and all you have to do is be a smooth talker and everyone will just give it to you. So to me politician = con man.
 
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I honestly believe there is not one single politician in any party in the US government that is not a liar and a cheat. I think that not one person in the entire lot actually cares at all about this country or any other. I think they are all out for themselves and their special interest groups and they use tax money to achieve their personal goals because it's the biggest resource around and all you have to do is be a smooth talker and everyone will just give it to you. So to me politician = con man.

I wouldn't go that far but I understand and share your frustration! Politics has an awful lot of unseemly tactics and yes lying involved but if you study Presidential races going way back to the founding fathers of the country it's nothing new, there were some terribly dishonest and ugly tactics that have always been used. Even so, it's better than living under a Monarchy, at least we get a chance to throw the bums out every few years if they're not up to the job they were elected to do!
 
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