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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

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You are the same, as the Islamic terrorists, that caused atrocities such as those seen on September the 11th, 2001?

No, because I am not foolish enough to believe that destroying a building will crush a nation.

Also, I am better informed, if those people knew anything, it is that Americans are bloodthirsty, we have been then forefront of many wars , and we also possess better weapons and technology then they do. What level of foolishness must they have possessed to think they even had a fightning chase once they declaired open war like this?

Or was this some kind of religious conviction issue?

God Bless

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You are the same, as the Islamic terrorists, that caused atrocities such as those seen on September the 11th, 2001?

No. We believe that we're to pray for our enemies and reach out to them in love. We convert our enemies by the preaching of the Gospel.

Islam believes that it's enemies are to be killed, enslaved, or oppressed. They convert their enemies at the point of a sword.

Frankly, I find your question childish and insulting.
 
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You are the same, as the Islamic terrorists, that caused atrocities such as those seen on September the 11th, 2001?

Not that your question has an ounce of sincerity, but, for sake of good old fashion morbid curiousity, I'll say no. Hopefully you're going to come back with something of a little more substance than the standard statement that Christianity has violence in its history. :swoon:
 
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You are the same, as the Islamic terrorists, that caused atrocities such as those seen on September the 11th, 2001?
Greetings
All true Christians a peaceful if they follow the true teachings of Jesus Christ.

Jesus said that him self;Matthew sermon on the mount
Matthew 5:5-12
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7. Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

True believer in Jesus grow more peacful the more the know Jesus Christ, and follow his teaching.

Anyone who doesn't is not truly Gods Child.
1 John 4:20-21
20. If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21. And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

The answer would be to your question, No.
not true christians.

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Not that your question has an ounce of sincerity, but, for sake of good old fashion morbid curiousity, I'll say no. Hopefully you're going to come back with something of a little more substance than the standard statement that Christianity has violence in its history. :swoon:

I dont mean Christians, I mean Creationists. And i don't mean the same as in "are you goiing to bomb Islamic places" or any of that rummel. I mean is your attitude towards Christianity the same as how the Terrorists view Islam?
 
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No, because I am not foolish enough to believe that destroying a building will crush a nation.

Also, I am better informed, if those people knew anything, it is that Americans are bloodthirsty, we have been then forefront of many wars , and we also possess better weapons and technology then they do. What level of foolishness must they have possessed to think they even had a fightning chase once they declaired open war like this?

Or was this some kind of religious conviction issue?

God Bless

Key


You think you can beat the terrorists, or just anger them, as seen with Iraq.
 
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You think you can beat the terrorists, or just anger them, as seen with Iraq.

Is this a real question?

You say "The Terroist" like they are a single enity. Such is a mistake of logic. Terrorist are little more then scattered bands of hate fuled people, regardless of their religion.

"[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] Them" off, "they" were "[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ed off" to start with, hence why they are Terroist to begin with, or have resorted to these types of antics, all we can do now is kill them.

Such is a sad waste of a what could have been a great use of life, but such is fate.

God Bless

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I dont mean Christians, I mean Creationists. And i don't mean the same as in "are you goiing to bomb Islamic places" or any of that rummel. I mean is your attitude towards Christianity the same as how the Terrorists view Islam?

My attitude towards Christianity in relation to which part of the Terrorist view of Islam? I don't see any correlation between what the Terrorist did on 9/11 and Islam. Since this forum is dedicated to questions about Christianity from non-Christians, I'd have to ask you to be more specific.

Your first post asked if we view ourselves the same as Islamic Terrorists. Do you really think anyone in their right mind is going to say "yes"? This leads me to believe you have a point you are trying to make instead of asking a sincere question...so, what's your point?
 
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I think the question concerns whether fundamentalist Christians consider themselves as "extremists" in the same way that we consider the Muslim terrorists extremists?

Thanks, thats what i meant!

anyone giving their lives for the cause can be considered hot for that cause, I suppose. The bible says he hates lukewarm ones, the ones who really aren't hot or cold toward Him.

But pitting christianity only against Muslim extremists is a bit offensive (since in the international community they are considered criminals basically). You can also say christians are as committed as doctors are to saving lives, and as firefighters are to rescuing people from burning buildings. Christians want to save people from sin and death, Jesus is the Answer to sin and death. God does want us to be hot in our love. But to kill others is not God's love, He created life, He doesn't want to kill. He gives a way past death in Jesus.
 
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Thanks, thats what i meant!

OK...I'd have to stick with "no". A Christian fundamentalist does not equal a Muslim extremist (or any other religious extremist). A fundamentalist, as I was taught, is someone who takes the Bible literally without interpreting for spiritual meaning. But there is still a line that is not crossed, and that line includes not doing things like what happened on 9/11.

Thanks for clarifying.
 
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No. We believe that we're to pray for our enemies and reach out to them in love. We convert our enemies by the preaching of the Gospel.

Islam believes that it's enemies are to be killed, enslaved, or oppressed. They convert their enemies at the point of a sword.

Frankly, I find your question childish and insulting.
sometimes you just have to act.many times isreal went to war.after all it written "there is a time for peace and a time for war, a time to build up and a time to pull down"
 
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Would you call the helping hand of love or turning the other cheek to an enemy the same as cutting another persons head off with a dull knife for not confessing their religion? Anyone who might have seen any of the videos these ghouls take of their executions would not be able to compare the extreme evil they display with the extreme love that Christ showed all mankind at the cross.
 
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You are the same, as the Islamic terrorists, that caused atrocities such as those seen on September the 11th, 2001?

The same in what sense? I, like them, am a sinner. Was there some deeper theological perspective you were seeking or does that satisfy your question?

God bless
 
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