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Would Calvin be banned from CF

Would he?

  • Yes he would

  • No he would not

  • I am not sure


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Gabriel

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The problem, folks, is that this is not a Reformed only board and some of you have poor manners. We can discuss our faith without being rude or calling names. If you would like to bash others, feel free to do so on a board that accepts that type of behavior.

While you are on CF, you will abide by the rules of CF. If you read the rules of engagement at the top of this forum you will see that you may discuss perceived weaknesses in other's doctrine as long as it is done politely and backed by scripture. The problem has been, and will continue to be, the posters maturity and tact.
 
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bigsierra said:
He is on the border. A lot of it has to do with tone. He is saying things that Catholics would obviously disagree with, but it would seem he is staying within the boundries of the allowed on CF. He does use some provocation language such "worthless superstitions." "the light of the Gospel is extinct" might fall outside the allowable terminology. I guess we will have to see what rnmomof7 or Gabriel say. It will be their call. I wouldn't report that post.

Examples of what is not allowed, and what is allowed:

Not allowed: "The Pope is the Anti-Christ"
Allowed: "The Pope has too much power" or "The Bible did not establish the papacy" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Not allowed: "The Catholic church is a cult"
Allowed: "The Catholic church has errors in some doctrines" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Not allowed: "The Roman Catholic Church is the harlot of Babylon"
Allowed: "The Catholic church may have a particular role to play in the endtimes" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Not allowed: "All Catholics go to hell"
Allowed: "Some Catholics may not be saved because they have wrong beliefs" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Not allowed: "Catholics worship idols" - this is because they don't worship these idols (at least they are not meant to)
Allowed: "Catholics have images in their church and the Bible does not support this" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Not allowed: "Catholics pray to demons when they pray to saints"
Allowed: "Praying to saints is not in the Bible" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Allowed: "There is no such thing as purgatory" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Allowed: "Catholics are preoccupied with visions of Mary" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Not allowed: "Speaking in tongues is demonic"
Allowed: "Speaking in tongues is being abused in some churches" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Not allowed: "Charismatic Christians are not saved"
Allowed: "The charismatic movement have gone too far in some cases" - as long as scripture a nd evidence is posted to argue this.

Not allowed: "Word of Faith preachers are false prophets"
Allowed: "The Word of Faith movement have gone too far in certain instances" - as long as scripture and evidence is posted to argue this.

Thank you for being the spare monitor on the Calvinist forums
 
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Holly3278 said:
I honestly don't know but I voted no because I don't think he would be. I don't know why he would be banned. What was so controversial about him? Sorry, I don't know much about theologians.


He spoke truth without apology .
No political Correctness in His words.
 
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Archbishop 10-K said:
Really? I'm used to Christian forums which get you banned pretty easily for being Catholic.

So, that's pretty interesting.
Looks like you two are confusing "Christianforums.com" with "Christian forums" in general. Yeah I've been banned from 4 forums for being Catholic. This one though, is great as it allows all Christians to live in peace with each other. :thumbsup:
 
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BronxBriar said:
Agree 100%

In this "ecumenical" age the truth has to worded ever so delicately. The rule is that it is more important to 'nice' than to be honest. Calvin and company would be gone in a heartbeat.


The bible teaches "Ecclesiastical seperation". Not popular today . But the scripturtes tell us to "come out from among them" . That is not a popular position today .
 
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I have edited the posts by guests that were argumentative as that is not allowed in the denominational forums. You may ask questions and fellowship, but not argue doctrine.

I have requested or edited myself some posts that are insulting to or imply RC posters are not saved. as per the rules of CF

I did not edit out the quotations of the Institutes or Calvin they are historic documents , which as a few posters pointed out were written in the language of the day.
We can not judge their words by todays standards. .

I left a few posts that could have been removed, ( that were not fellowship or that were not addressing the OP)
That was just a little grace.

I would remind my Calvinist brothers and sisters that although the language of the reformation was strong and pointed , we live in a different time.

We are all free to contribute our thoughts censored through the filter of respect and consideration.

This thread is open, now I will vote in it.

Calvin would not last a week here, but neither would the authors of the findings of trent :>)))

Grace to all here
 
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rnmomof7 said:
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I have edited the posts by guests that were argumentative as that is not allowed in the denominational forums. You may ask questions and fellowship, but not argue doctrine.

I have requested or edited myself some posts that are insulting to or imply RC posters are not saved. as per the rules of CF

I did not edit out the quotations of the Institutes or Calvin they are historic documents , which as a few posters pointed out were written in the language of the day.
We can not judge their words by todays standards. .

I left a few posts that could have been removed, ( that were not fellowship or that were not addressing the OP)
That was just a little grace.

I would remind my Calvinist brothers and sisters that although the language of the reformation was strong and pointed , we live in a different time.

We are all free to contribute our thoughts censored through the filter of respect and consideration.

This thread is open, now I will vote in it.

Calvin would not last a week here, but neither would the authors of the findings of trent :>)))
How true! and I have now mixed feelings and cannot even decide on a smily , thanks Sister! :wave:
 
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As near as I can determine Calvin studied for Holy Orders and for a time had an income related to an administrative position in the Roman Catholic Church but was not ordained.

If Calvin speaking the truth about grevious errors in the Church of Rome in his day would get him banned from this board; then this forum should rethink its criteria for posting.
 
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rnmomof7 said:
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I would remind my Calvinist brothers and sisters that although the language of the reformation was strong and pointed , we live in a different time.

We are all free to contribute our thoughts censored through the filter of respect and consideration.
Galatians 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.


See why this whole issue is a cry of the heart?
 
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rnmomof7 said:
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I would remind my Calvinist brothers and sisters that although the language of the reformation was strong and pointed , we live in a different time.

"But Paul found it impossible to be at peace with those who pervert the gospel. In this controversy over the nature of the gospel and of justification, Paul was unwilling to be a man-pleaser. He had no time for the politics of compromise when it came to the gospel. He found himself in a situation where he could not faithfully serve Christ and serve men."

R.C. Sproul. Faith Alone: The Evangelical Doctrine of Justification. p.189.

We can compromise, we can be 'ecumenical', we can even play nice (which we do by not trolling in the playgrounds of others) or we like Paul, can remain constant in the gospel. I'll stand with Paul and I am glad to see many others here will as well.

Warm regards.
 
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BronxBriar said:
"But Paul found it impossible to be at peace with those who pervert the gospel. In this controversy over the nature of the gospel and of justification, Paul was unwilling to be a man-pleaser. He had no time for the politics of compromise when it came to the gospel. He found himself in a situation where he could not faithfully serve Christ and serve men."

R.C. Sproul. Faith Alone: The Evangelical Doctrine of Justification. p.189.

We can compromise, we can be 'ecumenical', we can even play nice (which we do by not trolling in the playgrounds of others) or we like Paul, can remain constant in the gospel. I'll stand with Paul and I am glad to see many others here will as well.

Warm regards.


There is a Biblical command to Ecclesiastical separation .
I do not compromise my faith , I do not apologize for the historical texts or language.

All I ask here is civil discourse that reflects our commitment to the Gospel and the command to be subject to those in authority over us .
 
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Irishcat922 said:
Violation of rule 1
How exactly did I violate rule 1. I was asking a question not absolutely forbidding R.C.'s to post. I think if they are going to post here they need to be thickskinned. If I was going to post on there board I would expect some sharp criticism. And that doesn't bother me. Most honest good R.C.'s would tell me I'm a heretic according to the Council of Trent. That wouldn't bother me either.
 
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I prefer his commentary on 2 Thes 2, here's some excerpts

2 Thessalonians 2

The Man of Lawlessness

1Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. 3Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
5Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.


Verse 9. For after having spoken of the working or efficacy of Satan, he marks it out particularly when he says, in signs and lying wonders, and in all deceivableness. And assuredly, in order that this may be opposed to the kingdom of Christ, it must consist partly in false doctrine and errors, and partly in pretended miracles. For the kingdom of Christ consists of the doctrine of truth, and the power of the Spirit. Satan, accordingly, with the view of opposing Christ in the person of his Vicar, puts on Christ's mask, while he, nevertheless, at the same time chooses armor, with which he may directly oppose Christ. Christ, by the doctrine of his gospel, enlightens our minds in eternal life; Antichrist, trained up under Satan's tuition, by wicked doctrine, involves the wicked in ruin; Christ puts forth the power of his Spirit for salvation, and seals his gospel by miracles; the adversary, by the efficacy of Satan, alienates us from the Holy Spirit, and by his enchantments confirms miserable men in error.
He gives the name of miracles of falsehood, not merely to such as are falsely and deceptively contrived by cunning men with a view to impose upon the simple--a kind of deception with which all Papacy abounds, for they are a part of his power which he has previously touched upon; but takes falsehood as consisting in this, that Satan draws to a contrary end works which otherwise are truly works of God, and abuses miracles so as to obscure God's glory. In the mean time, however, there can be no doubt, that he deceives by means of enchantments--an example of which we have in Pharaoh's magicians.

Ver 11. The working of delusion. He means that errors will not merely have a place, but the wicked will be blinded, so that they will rush forward to ruin without consideration. For as God enlightens us inwardly by his Spirit, that his doctrine may be efficacious in us, and opens our eyes and hearts, that it may make its way thither, so by a righteous judgment he delivers over to a reprobate mind those whom he has appointed to destruction, that with closed eyes and a senseless mind, they may, as if bewitched, deliver themselves over to Satan and his ministers to be deceived. And assuredly we have a notable specimen of this in the Papacy. No words can express how monstrous a sink of errors there is there, how gross and shameful an absurdity of superstitions there is, and what delusions at variance with common sense. None that have even a moderate taste of sound doctrine, can think of such monstrous things without the greatest horror. How, then, could the whole world be lost in astonishment at them, were it not that men have been struck with blindness by the Lord, and converted, as it were, into stumps?
 
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