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World's end!!

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Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.Mat 24:8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh:Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, [even] at the doors.Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.Mat 24:41 Two [women shall be] grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.Mat 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?Mat 24:46 Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.Mat 24:47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.Mat 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;Mat 24:49 And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and in an hour that he is not aware of,Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 
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Turk said:
How can you ever know God's nature with regards to the End times? What he does inbetween has nothing to do with what he has proclaimed for the end.
You are effectively deconstructing the whole bible into a place where we can't know anything. It is God who reveals. It is God how created. To turn this whole thing that into “What he does inbetween has nothing to do with what he has proclaimed for the end” is to turn the bible into a statement where you only have Gen 1 & 2 and Rev 21 & 22. You don't get the fall, covenants, the stories of the people of God, and Jesus suffering and dieing for us which is the story and way God went about restoration of the whole created order. So then looking at Rev 21 & 22 God reforming his garden back into the Garden of Eden again to only destroy it is to undo his created order. To that end if you follow the logical progression, if he is destroys his garden he can also wipe away our identities which he takes enormous amount of effort develop. I would even say he spent more effort in creating all the other things than humans….So then how do I know…God has revealed his nature to man in many ways and to do what it has been suggested is more like pagan dualistic Gnostic believes than a monotheistic creative covenant God whose truth is a ongoing dynamic revealing truth that does not counter his own creative order.
 
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Andyman_1970 said:
With all due respect the idea that Christians will leave the earth as it rots and wastes away (pre trib) and that we spend eternity somewhere else than a reborn earth is a product of dualism and Gnosticism.

With all due respect........................................................................................
 
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dvd_holc said:
You are effectively deconstructing the whole bible into a place where we can't know anything. It is God who reveals. It is God how created. To turn this whole thing that into “What he does inbetween has nothing to do with what he has proclaimed for the end” is to turn the bible into a statement where you only have Gen 1 & 2 and Rev 21 & 22. You don't get the fall, covenants, the stories of the people of God, and Jesus suffering and dieing for us which is the story and way God went about restoration of the whole created order. So then looking at Rev 21 & 22 God reforming his garden back into the Garden of Eden again to only destroy it is to undo his created order. To that end if you follow the logical progression, if he is destroys his garden he can also wipe away our identities which he takes enormous amount of effort develop. I would even say he spent more effort in creating all the other things than humans….So then how do I know…God has revealed his nature to man in many ways and to do what it has been suggested is more like pagan dualistic Gnostic believes than a monotheistic creative covenant God whose truth is a ongoing dynamic revealing truth that does not counter his own creative order.

Sounds to me like you are assuming a lot.

You assume that God will not destroy his own creations.

What makes you think that any Man has the ability to even slightly comprehend what reasoning God may have for his actions?
 
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Turk said:
Sounds to me like you are assuming a lot.

You assume that God will not destroy his own creations.

What makes you think that any Man has the ability to even slightly comprehend what reasoning God may have for his actions?

Why would God destroy a manifestation of His own glory? You seem to assume that He wants to destroy His creation rather than reconcile it back to the way it was pre-Genesis 3..........you're assuming alot as well.
 
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Turk said:
Sounds to me like you are assuming a lot.

You assume that God will not destroy his own creations.

What makes you think that any Man has the ability to even slightly comprehend what reasoning God may have for his actions?
Obviously, you missed my second sentence. "It is God who reveals." And, I will let Andy's commit stand as the next statement.
 
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We are in a war now... in Iraq, that is in the Middle East, but that IS NOT the final war. Jesus said... watch for the signs of the times, I am even at the door. I think, if you watch and keep track of the news...... read the Bible..... you'll get a pretty good idea of just how close we really are. Watch who is giving allience to whom.... 'kings of the north, kings of the east', and so on. It's all lining up now, with what's in the Bible.
 
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JCChick said:
How many of you think that the world will soon come to a end? in scripture it says something about the world coming to an end when there is a war in the middle east. is that true or am i just dreaming?:sleep:

Hmm. I believe that the more people there are who believe the world will end soon, the less likely it is to happen.

Look:

Luke 12:40
40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."
(NIV)


1Thessalonians 5:1-2
1 Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you,
2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
(NIV)


Revelation 3:3b
3b ... I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
(NIV)
 
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