World Is ‘Running Out of People,’ Documentary Warns

[SolomonVII]

Where Are the Children?
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The future will belong to those who show up. IOW, Western culture is breeding itself out of existence by having reproductive rates below the sustainment level. Muslims and others who have large families are migrating in to fill the void created and in a very short time will become the dominant culture in the west.

I agree that with you that this is not a biological thing, but a reason for concern only for those who think that there is something special about societies shaped by western and especially Christian values. Europe will not run out of people, but it is not hard to project that soon Christians in Europe will beeven more marginalzied in their society than they are now.
and as long as secular Europeans are not going to be positive about asserting Europe's current secular western values as worthy for their immigrant populations to follow, there is no reason why immigrants will not create Europe in their own image, according to their own values.

That is just the way that multiculturalism works. Those cultures that want to be dominant eventually will be dominant.

 

[MariaRegina]

Those cultures that want to be dominant eventually will be dominant.

Culture? It is more of a cult. Cults are very popular today and are among the fastest growing religions (bottom up not top down).

 

[TheOtherHockeyMom]

I think it's a good thing to ask, what is the concern here?
Is it that global population will go down?
Is it that population in Europe, the US and/or the far East will go down?
Is it that the population of Christians will go down?
Is it that the population of culturally American/European, white Christians will go down?

 

[Fantine]

The concern is obviously that the white Christian European/North American population will go down.

And if Muslims move to Europe, and Mexicans move to the US, after a generation they, too, will be living a different lifestyle and will probably have similar-sized families to what Europeans and Americans are having today.

I am much more concerned with the high percentage of out of wedlock births in the US (1/3) and the number of children who grow up in poverty, and the number of couples that get divorced.

If we are all having fewer children, on average, let's give them the good start in the loving families that they all need to grow and thrive.

But I don't think that it's necessary for families to be large (which I would define as four or more children) to be loving or stable or nurturing. And I don't think that the smaller size of families contributes to divorce or out-of-wedlock births. (If it does, then perhaps the rumors that miserable people stayed together making each other miserable because they couldn't afford to get divorced is true.)

 

[Catherineanne]

Where Are the Children?
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The future will belong to those who show up. IOW, Western culture is breeding itself out of existence by having reproductive rates below the sustainment level. Muslims and others who have large families are migrating in to fill the void created and in a very short time will become the dominant culture in the west.

I must say I disagree, and regard your comments as highly misinformed.

However, rather than argue, I will say only God's will be done.

 

[Catherineanne]

I think it's a good thing to ask, what is the concern here?
Is it that global population will go down?
Is it that population in Europe, the US and/or the far East will go down?
Is it that the population of Christians will go down?
Is it that the population of culturally American/European, white Christians will go down?

I think the last of your list is the issue; it may be wrapped up in cosy rhetoric, but the issue is very thinly disguised bigotry. Claims that Europe is about to be overwhelmed by Islam, because 'they' breed more than 'we' do is just plain national socialist nonsense.

 

[Rebekka]

The concern I've had is the imbalance of genders, as a result of countries like China, where one child only laws, led couples to abort female fetuses and keep only males.

I believe the balance that nature sets up is four females for every male. I read that China will have a two females to one male population, within ten years. The imbalance will cause a collapse in their reproduction rates an will move them to agressive programs in human trafficking, as the over population of males tries to correct the situation.

Jim

??? Source?

You'd think that by now, China would have more males than females, not twice as many females as males.


Dear North-Americans, I wouldn't worry so much about European population and immigration issues. You who've never experienced overpopulation and the problems that it creates don't know what you're talking about. I'd love to have the kind of living space that you guys have.

I, too, find it ironic that in the same breath where decrease of population is lamented, people complain that non-christian immigrants are "flooding" Europe. If it's population you're so concerned about, then what difference does it make which religion those people have? (Even if they have a different religion, that doesn't mean they're "lost". You can always evangelize.)

Immigrants over here are quickly adapting to European lifestyle, including family size and secularism. Even in Morocco (where many of our immigrants come from) the average number of children per mother has gone down from 7 in 1960 to 2.43 now.

 

[Ave Maria]

It's the result of contraception and abortion. There's a reason why the Church condemns both of these.

 

[Catherineanne]

It's the result of contraception and abortion. There's a reason why the Church condemns both of these.

Population issues have far, far more to do with education and poverty levels than with either contraception or abortion. And as far as I am aware, the RCC is not opposed to the spread of universal educational provision, or to the reduction of poverty to reduce high rates of infant mortality.

Reducing every argument to one of contraception:abortion does nobody any favours.

 

[Fantine]

Population issues have far, far more to do with education and poverty levels than with either contraception or abortion. And as far as I am aware, the RCC is not opposed to the spread of universal educational provision, or to the reduction of poverty to reduce high rates of infant mortality.

Reducing every argument to one of contraception:abortion does nobody any favours.

QFT

I would add, and the transition from an agrarian economy to an industrial/technological one, resulting in the move of families from rural farms to urban/suburban areas.

 

[Blackknight]

Thanks to automation we simply don't need as many people around. The global population might drop, big deal. 100 years ago there was only around 1-2 billion people on Earth.

 

[Fantine]

Modern economies are built on ever-growing consumption. More people mean more homebuilding, auto manufacturing, food production, etc. and that keeps people employed.

Fewer people, even if those people are wealthier and consume more of the world's goods, will still not consume as much as more people.

No matter how wealthy people are, there are only a certain number of cell phones, cars, etc. they will own.

A precipitous population decline would mean economic collapse.

 

[Blackknight]

Modern economies are built on ever-growing consumption.

Don't you see? That is the problem! An economy simply cannot grow forever, at some point things will level off. I think people will adapt to whatever their situation is, there's more to life than the endless pursuit of material goods.

 

[Fantine]

Don't you see? That is the problem! An economy simply cannot grow forever, at some point things will level off. I think people will adapt to whatever their situation is, there's more to life than the endless pursuit of material goods.

An economy can grow if the population grows. That is why the growth of the middle classes in China and India have brought prosperity to many companies, and why their GNP's grow so much faster than ours.

If the population is stable, advertisers continually bombard the stable population to try to get them to increase their consumption by buying the latest innovations or fashions. The only way the economy can grow is if everyone buys more.

 

[dusky_tresses]

The concern I've had is the imbalance of genders, as a result of countries like China, where one child only laws, led couples to abort female fetuses and keep only males.

I believe the balance that nature sets up is four females for every male. I read that China will have a two females to one male population, within ten years. The imbalance will cause a collapse in their reproduction rates an will move them to agressive programs in human trafficking, as the over population of males tries to correct the situation.

Jim

I have heard similar reports regarding China and India with that. I was also under the impression that their policy changed-- they will allow families to continue having children until they have a son, where after they need to discontinue having children. I could be wrong, however.

I know in the United States, there are more females born than males, but the average family has 1.9 children, so anywhere from 1-2 children. I don't really think there is as much of a population issue as there is an social class issue, educational issue, and health issues. Also, aren't many countries' populations aging? Such as with countries in Europe, Japan, and the U.S.? Wouldn't that affect the population within the next 50 years considering the fact that people are waiting until they are older to get married and have children?

 

[canukian]

The concern I've had is the imbalance of genders, as a result of countries like China, where one child only laws, led couples to abort female fetuses and keep only males.

I believe the balance that nature sets up is four females for every male. I read that China will have a two females to one male population, within ten years. The imbalance will cause a collapse in their reproduction rates an will move them to agressive programs in human trafficking, as the over population of males tries to correct the situation.

Jim

a huge surplus of males is perfect for war, and thats going to happen, imo.

 

[canukian]

I think it's a good thing to ask, what is the concern here?
Is it that global population will go down?
Is it that population in Europe, the US and/or the far East will go down?
Is it that the population of Christians will go down?
Is it that the population of culturally American/European, white Christians will go down?

picture yourself a pesicuted christian in egypt or iraq.

that is almost certainly the future of western nations as a result of low birthrates and imigration.

 

[canukian]

An economy can grow if the population grows. That is why the growth of the middle classes in China and India have brought prosperity to many companies, and why their GNP's grow so much faster than ours.

If the population is stable, advertisers continually bombard the stable population to try to get them to increase their consumption by buying the latest innovations or fashions. The only way the economy can grow is if everyone buys more.

econonomy grows through tenological advances too.
our ecomonomy in the west expaned too much, because of greed and cultural changes.
greed in that both man and women work. greed in that women work, instead of having a family. therein lies the crux of the death of western civilization.

 

[Franze]

In arabic countries, Black Africa and south of Asia the birth rate is huge, sadly the white race, the europeans of all continents are dying and people are very happy. And respect what you say of the great profits of non white immigration, you live in a very beautiful world of colours. Today there is a news from Catalonia in Spain, a moroccan man,49, has raped a small child, boy,10. Thanks for the pro-immigrants for these "great""new" citizens in Europe. We are destroyed but you have the new liberal toy for you.

 

[Fantine]

The birth rate, left un-engineered, is 103 males for every 100 females. This is because males are more vulnerable to illness, accidents, and tend to have shorter life spans.

My friend from Vietnam has said that Chinese men go over the border into N. Vietnam and offer substantial dowries for Vietnamese girls. Their families (and the girls) believe that they will be marrying a Chinese man, but when the girls get there, they are locked into brothels where they are used by many men. This kind of inhumanity comes from the gender imbalances in China.