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Word above the name of God

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Irishcat922 said:
I think the E.S.V. is a better rendering of this verse.


for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.
As I am no Hebrew scholar I can only say that in my studies the KJV seems to be a legitimate rendering.
 
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James1979 said:
It is speaking about God's law(word) is above his name, meaning that God is under his own law. He has to be faithful to his word, which we know that he is and has never broken his own law.
Perhaps but I think the context is speaking of His promises found in His word as opposed to what is revealed in His acts of providence. I also believe it can be properly understood concerning Christ as the Word. We are told in Col. 1 that He is, in all things, to have the preeminence.
 
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mlqurgw said:
Perhaps but I think the context is speaking of His promises found in His word as opposed to what is revealed in His acts of providence. I also believe it can be properly understood concerning Christ as the Word. We are told in Col. 1 that He is, in all things, to have the preeminence.

It does seem to me to be more of a prophesy almost regarding Christ, than anything about the law.
 
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shadrach_ said:
It does seem to me to be more of a prophesy almost regarding Christ, than anything about the law.
It does seem to me that if we want to know anything about God we need only look at and to Christ. In Him is the love of God made manifest. In Him we see how God looks at sin. In Him we see the justice of God in judgment. In Him we find out about mercy. In Him we learn truth. He is said to be the express image of God and all the fullness of the Godhead dwells in Him. He is all in all. So yes I have no doubt that it is speaking of Him.

The intitial thought of this verse came about in my thinking of a response to the question as to the Bible being the Word of God.
 
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I find it helpful to break scripture like this into "bite sized" chunks mechanically ( language wise ) to look at it. Take this for example:

Psa 138:2
I will worship toward
**thy holy temple,
and praise
**thy name
for
**thy lovingkindness
and for
**thy truth:
for thou hast magnified
**thy word
above all
**thy name.

How does it read to you now?
 
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PapaLandShark said:
I find it helpful to break scripture like this into "bite sized" chunks mechanically ( language wise ) to look at it. Take this for example:

Psa 138:2
I will worship toward
**thy holy temple,
and praise
**thy name
for
**thy lovingkindness
and for
**thy truth:
for thou hast magnified
**thy word
above all
**thy name.

How does it read to you now?
I am fairly dense so I am not sure what you are getting at. The fault I am sure is mine.
 
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PapaLandShark said:
I would read this as David is worshiping and praising the Father for all these things...but above all he is praising "Thy Name".

clearer?
Or another way to look at it is the Lord's name is maginified by all of these things:
His Word
His Lovingkindness
His Truth
 
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You know what? This is such a cool verse. Reading through the responses, and some of my materials, it points towards what some here have stated as well. To David God's Word was the most direct embodiment of God. ( None see God and live ) so this is a third way to walk through it. My error, if it is one, is trying to add a comma in there where there isn't one.

Bah...not being clear. Here...check this commentary out:


"I will worship toward thy holy temple,
"or the place of God's dwelling, where the ark abode. He would worship God in God's own way. The Lord had ordained a centre of unity, a place of sacrifice, a house of his indwelling; and David accepted the way of worship enjoined by revelation. Even so, the true-hearted believer of these days must not fall into the will-worship of superstition, or the wild worship of scepticism, but reverently worship as the Lord himself prescribes. The idol gods had their temples; but David averts his glance from them, and looks earnestly to the spot chosen of the Lord for his own sanctuary. We are not only to adore the true God, but to do so in his own appointed way: the Jew looked to the temple, we are to look to Jesus, the living temple of the Godhead. "And praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth."Praise would be the main part of David's worship; the name or character of God the great object of his song; and the special point of his praise the grace and truth which shone so conspicuously in that name. The person of Jesus is the temple of the Godhead, and therein we behold the glory of the Father, "full of grace and truth." It is upon these two points that the name of Jehovah is at this time assailed - his grace and his truth. He is said to be too stern, too terrible, and therefore "modern thought" displaces the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and sets up an effeminate deity of its own making. As for us, we firmly believe that God is love, and that in the summing up of all things it will be seen that hell itself is not inconsistent with the beneficence of Jehovah, but is, indeed, a necessary part of his moral government now that sin has intruded into the universe. True believers hear the thunders of his justice, and yet they do not doubt his lovingkindness. Especially do we delight in God's great love to his own elect, such as he showed to Israel as a race, and more especially to David and his seed when he entered into covenant with him. Concerning this there is abundant room for praise. But not only do men attack the lovingkindness of God, but the truth of God is at this time assailed on all sides; some doubt the truth of the inspired record as to its histories, others challenge the doctrines, many sneer at the prophecies; in fact, the infallible word of the Lord is at this time treated as if it were the writing of imposters, and only worthy to be carped at. The swine are trampling on the pearls at this time, and nothing restrains them; nevertheless, the pearls are pearls still, and shall yet shine about our Monarch's brow. We sing the lovingkindness and truth of the God of the Old Testament, - "the God of the whole earth shall he be called." David before the false gods first sang, then worshipped, and then proclaimed the grace and truth of Jehovah; let us do the same before the idols of the New Theology.
"For thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name."The word of promise made to David was in his eyes more glorious than all else that he had seen of the Most High. Revelation excels creation in the clearness, definiteness, and fulness of its teaching. The name of the Lord in nature is not so easily read as in the Scriptures, which are a revelation in human language, specially adapted to the human mind, treating of human need, and of a Saviour who appeared in human nature to redeem humanity. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but the divine word will not pass away, and in this respect especially it has a pre-eminence over every other form of manifestation. Moreover, the Lord lays all the rest of his name under tribute to his word: his wisdom, power, love, and all his other attributes combine to carry out his word. It is his word which creates, sustains, quickens, enlightens, and comforts. As a word of command it is supreme; and in the person of the incarnate Word it is set above all the works of God's hands. The sentence in the text is wonderfully full of meaning. We have collected a vast mass of literature upon it, but space will not allow us to put it all into our notes. Let us adore the Lord who has spoken to us by his word, and by his Son; and in the presence of unbelievers let us both praise his holy name and extol his holy word."

 
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PapaLandShark said:
You know what? This is such a cool verse. Reading through the responses, and some of my materials, it points towards what some here have stated as well. To David God's Word was the most direct embodiment of God. ( None see God and live ) so this is a third way to walk through it. My error, if it is one, is trying to add a comma in there where there isn't one.

Bah...not being clear. Here...check this commentary out:


Outstanding! I must ask who wrote it? All the semicolans make me think of Gill but it doesn't quite fit his language.
 
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mlqurgw said:
Outstanding! I must ask who wrote it? All the semicolans make me think of Gill but it doesn't quite fit his language.
It's from "The Treasury of David" by C.H. Spurgeon. I have his commentaries by module in e-sword :)
 
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