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Are you going to shoot the messenger?
I don't need to do anything. People can make their own minds up as to the character of people who agree that gay people deserve to die.

Matthew 12:37. By your words shall you be judged.
 
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Yep, like we all do. But the new covenant is repentance and forgiveness
Repentance and forgiveness weren't mentioned. And it wasn't a general warning to everyone that all sins may result in death. The discussion in the thread was about gay people, the quote was specifically given as it relates to gay people and the person quoting it said unequivocally that he agreed with it.

Which you already knew because you are posting in that very thread.
 
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still applies concerning the accusation of us wanting to kill people.
 
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I don't need to do anything. People can make their own minds up as to the character of people who agree that gay people deserve to die.

Matthew 12:37. By your words shall you be judged.
2 Tim 3:16
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
 
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It actually was:

"But then again, as I said earlier, it is not saying that we're supposed to go around killing gay people. It simply states what they deserve under God's law. As I also said earlier, it says that we are all under the same law, and are deserving of death. We all have the same way through Jesus Christ for forgiveness of our sins. However, some people are happier being proud of the things that make them deserving of death, and openly celebrated it out in the streets." Aldebaran post: 223
 
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2 Tim 3:16
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
And what is right, according to you, is that gay people deserve to die. We get that.
 
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It actually was:

"But then again, as I said earlier, it is not saying that we're supposed to go around killing gay people. It simply states what they deserve under God's law.
'They' in this specific case was homosexuals. The discussion was about gay people and you quoted it directly in response to comments about gay people. And to ensure that there was no confusion you were asked if you agreed with the quote that, specifically, all gay people deserve death because they were gay. You said that you did. The response was crystal clear. This farcical attempt to back the truck up by saying 'oh, but we all deserve to die for our sins' is nothing short of embarrassing.
 
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And what is right, according to you, is that gay people deserve to die. We get that.
According to another part of scripture, which I've already posted more than once, as you've been so gracious to point out.
 
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Then maybe it's time for you to let it go.
 
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God ordered death for the following sins and people.

1. Murder (Ex 21:12,14)(Lev 24:17,21)(Num 35:16-21,30-31)
2. Kidnapping (Ex 21:16)(Deut 24:7)
3. Child sacrifice (Lev 20:2)
4. Both the man and woman who commit adultery (Lev 20:10)(Deut 22:22-24)
5. Rape (Deut 22:25)
6. Daughter of a priest who became a prostitute (Lev 21:9)
7. An idolater (Ex 22:20)(Deut 17:2-5)(Num 25:1-5)
8. Breaking the Sabbath (Ex 31:14)(Ex 35:2)(Num 15:32-36)
9. A woman having sex before marriage (Deut 22:21-22)
10. Homosexuality (Lev 20:13)
11. A man and his father’s wife who have sex (Lev 20:11)
12. A man and daughter-in-law who have sex (Lev 20:12)
13. A man who marries a woman and her mother (all 3 must die) (Lev 20:14)
14. Bestiality (Sex with an animal) (Ex 22:19)(Lev 20:15-16)
15. A false prophet (Deut 13:5)(Deut 18:20)
16. A false witness (Deut 19:16-21)
17. A disobedient son (Deut 21:18-21)
18. A child who strikes his father or mother (Ex 21:15)
19. A child who curses his father or mother (Ex 21:17)(Lev 20:9)
20. Men who are fighting and hit a pregnant woman, causing her lose her baby (Ex 21:22-25) ***Note: A good verse to use against those who are pro-abortion
21. A man whose ox kills someone after previously goring other people (Ex 21:28-29)
22. A sorceress (Ex 22:18)
23. A medium or spiritist (Lev 20:27)
24. A brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend who entices you to go after other gods (Deut 13:6-11)
25. Everyone in any town that entices people to go after other gods (Deut 13:12-15)
26. A blasphemer (Lev 24:10-16,23)
27. Anyone who failed to abide by a decision of the court (Deut 17:8-12)
28. Any non-Levite who tried to set up or take down the Tabernacle (Num 1:51)
 
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Go back to where it was quoted and show us that reason. We'll wait.
Don't play games. It was quoted in a discussion about gays and it was specifically directed at gays. You've already agreed as to what you meant by it and you have said that you agree with it. Now suggesting that it was done for some other reason is farcical.
 
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