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Tenorvoice

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Submission that GOd calles for is NOT one sided. It is mutual!

God commands for the Husband to be the Head of the HOme and the woman to submit to him

the Husband is commanded to submit to the wife by LOVING her in the same way that Christ loved the church

If anyone has a problem with accepting these principles set forth in the Word of God look @ Ephesisans 5:18

I'm not saying that the marriage will not work I am just saying that it will not be all that God intended it to be

sorry if this offends anyone but you do not have a problem with me it is with the Word where the problem sides.
 
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Tenorvoice said:
Submission that GOd calles for is NOT one sided. It is mutual!

God commands for the Husband to be the Head of the HOme and the woman to submit to him

the Husband is commanded to submit to the wife by LOVING her in the same way that Christ loved the church

If anyone has a problem with accepting these principles set forth in the Word of God look @ Ephesisans 5:18

I'm not saying that the marriage will not work I am just saying that it will not be all that God intended it to be

sorry if this offends anyone but you do not have a problem with me it is with the Word where the problem sides.

Mr Tenor - before you start throwing scriptures at someone who knows them OH SO WELL - let me inform you that you know nothing about me or my personal life - what do you think GOD would say about me being the head of the household if my husband doesn't believe in GOD? Puts a twist on things doesn't it? Offend me? Yes, by jumping to conclusions instead of asking questions. AND as far as the WORD goes - I let the Holy Spirit interpret the scriptures for me. GOD is my word and HE is my guide. So before you go spouting off again, it would be wise to ask some questions first before you go assuming things that you know nothing about in regards to someone else's life. Things are not always black and white - there are shades of gray my friend. Also, my husband is not capable of loving me in the way that he should according to you b/c he's a non-believer. AND the ONLY one that I will EVER, EVER, EVER submit to is Lord Jesus Christ - if my posts offends you, I apologize for that but this is my truth, my life and if you have a problem with it, take that up with God.......
 
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Tenorvoice said:
sorry if this offends anyone but you do not have a problem with me it is with the Word where the problem sides.
no dice. I will not let you blame the bible for your sexist views. during the civil right era, people used the bible to support that too. they too, had scripture to support thier views. they were wrong, and honey, so are you.
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
you go girl! lol
LOL...HERE HERE...

I'll shaddup and just watch...

wait...for the OP...
Let's not discrimenate...
Let's talk about men who are single parents.

Nikki, ignorance is to be ignored....
(wish I could follow my own advice sometimes...)
 
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Smilin said:
LOL...HERE HERE...

I'll shaddup and just watch...

wait...for the OP...
Let's not discrimenate...
Let's talk about men who are single parents.

Nikki, ignorance is to be ignored....
(wish I could follow my own advice sometimes...)
I have a hard time ignoring things even when I KNOW I should but sometimes, I just have to open up my mouth and speak MY truth......thanks Smilin'! :hug:

edited to say, Smilin - when do you just Shaddup and watch? ^_^ ^_^
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
no dice. I will not let you blame the bible for your sexist views. during the civil right era, people used the bible to support that too. they too, had scripture to support thier views. they were wrong, and honey, so are you.
Shouldn't you be getting Nick a beer or something?
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
no dice. I will not let you blame the bible for your sexist views. during the civil right era, people used the bible to support that too. they too, had scripture to support thier views. they were wrong, and honey, so are you.
and you're not off the hook with me either....

The early Puritans used the Bible to lay claim to the America's
proclaiming Divine Right to the land because of the smallpox
epidemic (which they brought over) ravaging the Native Americans.
Biblical leaders condoned enslaving, stealing, murdering, and relocating
the Natives simply because of Divine Right...

Would you like the writings of the early Christian Puritan leaders
to prove what I claim?


And, the Bible also states in Mark that you can take up serpents
and drink poison and no harm will come to you. NOW...don't take
issue with me,,, take issue with your ancient book which has
been overwritten, mistranslated, and altered over time.

Before I'll accept your rant on the role of a woman..
I have a eastern diamond back rattlesnake and a vile of
strictnine... When you prove that passage in Mark right,
then I'll reconsider what you stated concerning women...

and...btw...are you married?
 
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Blessed75 said:
Mr Tenor - before you start throwing scriptures at someone who knows them OH SO WELL - let me inform you that you know nothing about me or my personal life - what do you think GOD would say about me being the head of the household if my husband doesn't believe in GOD? Puts a twist on things doesn't it? Offend me? Yes, by jumping to conclusions instead of asking questions. AND as far as the WORD goes - I let the Holy Spirit interpret the scriptures for me. GOD is my word and HE is my guide. So before you go spouting off again, it would be wise to ask some questions first before you go assuming things that you know nothing about in regards to someone else's life. Things are not always black and white - there are shades of gray my friend. Also, my husband is not capable of loving me in the way that he should according to you b/c he's a non-believer. AND the ONLY one that I will EVER, EVER, EVER submit to is Lord Jesus Christ - if my posts offends you, I apologize for that but this is my truth, my life and if you have a problem with it, take that up with God.......


I'm so totally with you on this, hon. :)

Tenorvoice ~ Jesus told us to love one another as brother and sister... I think that is how love between two people who are married is supposed to be in its truest form. We are all children of God... not one of us is above the other in his eyes, so how better to honor his love for us that we show each other, including our spouses, that love of equality.
 
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One interpretaion ......many applications

aslo.....Even tho you may have the essential oneness in the Body of Christ, niether bond nor free, male nor female, Jew nor Greek. There are no distinctions essensially in trems of intilectual, spiritual, capasity, there is still the athority of the submission principle. Not a principle of being or essence. It is a principle of function .
 
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Tenorvoice said:
For it is the mans job to protect her, provide for her, she is the object of care provision, and concern, lastly he is to love her..

I can protect myself and provide for myself, too :clap: I don't need a man to do that for me, I am quite capable. And I felt the same way about that when I was a Christian! ^_^

jameseb said:
not one of us is above the other in his eyes, so how better to honor his love for us that we show each other, including our spouses, that love of equality.

Glad to hear this coming from a guy!! Kudos to you :clap:
 
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Tenorvoice said:
One interpretaion ......many applications

aslo.....Even tho you may have the essential oneness in the Body of Christ, niether bond nor free, male nor female, Jew nor Greek. There are no distinctions essensially in trems of intilectual, spiritual, capasity, there is still the athority of the submission principle. Not a principle of being or essence. It is a principle of function .
Uh-huh, read the first line in my signature there Tenor and we'll leave it at that. Don't judge me - It says something about that in the Bible too doesn't it?
 
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Tenorvoice said:
One interpretaion ......many applications

aslo.....Even tho you may have the essential oneness in the Body of Christ, niether bond nor free, male nor female, Jew nor Greek. There are no distinctions essensially in trems of intilectual, spiritual, capasity, there is still the athority of the submission principle. Not a principle of being or essence. It is a principle of function .
The dictionary is a good book to study as well
 
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dawnmo said:
I can protect myself and provide for myself, too :clap: I don't need a man to do that for me, I am quite capable. And I felt the same way about that when I was a Christian! ^_^
The same as I have raised my daughter. The idea that females
should be raised to be co-dependent is totally ludicrous and idiotic...(IMO)

Good for you! Self-independence is one of lifes greatest lessons regardless
of gender, race, or religious preference.
 
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Tenorvoice said:
One interpretaion ......many applications

aslo.....Even tho you may have the essential oneness in the Body of Christ, niether bond nor free, male nor female, Jew nor Greek. There are no distinctions essensially in trems of intilectual, spiritual, capasity, there is still the athority of the submission principle. Not a principle of being or essence. It is a principle of function .
You speak nothing of oneness, rather (if I read your writing correctly)
you speak of divisions simply by gender or race. That...is racism/sexism.
 
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mttwira2001 said:
Sounds like Taliban to me.
Too right! There is not much to choose between the wrong thinking imo of a fundamentalist Christian, and a fundamentalist Muslim like the Taliban.

Women are equal to men and there is very little a woman can't do and often do better than a man. Conversely there are many men that prefer to stay at home and look after the kids while the higher wage earner wife goes out to work, that is fine if it suits both partners.
 
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