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Windows 7: upgrade or fresh install: which is better?

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I have Vista Home Premium 64 bit (just bought my computer in September after my old computer croaked)

although I didn't go crazy downloading or installing a lot of programs, I kept the applications/software to a minimum, knowing that I'll get a free upgrade to Windows 7.

which is better: upgrade or fresh install?
 

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Fresh install. Always fresh install. Windows is absolutely notorious for botched upgrades - this has been true since Windows 98 at the least. Some people may get through it relatively unscathed, but there's just too much that could go wrong, and require that you do a fresh install anyway. Hence, it's far easier to just do that from the get-go and not worry about it.

And unless things have changed for Windows 7, it is fully possible to do a fresh install from the upgrade disc. You just need to have a proper retail package for a previous version for it to verify against (Vista for sure, although they might even allow verification with XP).
 
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Yes, fresh install.

Not only will it upgrade your OS, it will also get rid of a lot of the crap you never knew existed on your computer... and has the added bonus of nuking any virus's that are floating around. :)
 
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Dittos on doing a fresh install as a first choice. If you have an external USB hard drive, check how easy it is to save your system settings as they are now for your new install:

Windows Easy Transfer
Explore the features: Windows Easy Transfer

Windows 7 features - Windows Easy Transfer - Microsoft Windows

If you want, Microsoft offers the following for upgrade:

Step-by-Step: Windows 7 Upgrade and Migration
Step-by-Step: Windows 7 Upgrade and Migration


will it transfer my Thunderbird emails? or will I have to do a back up according to this thread?

and thanks for the links!

@ Qyot27: and where do I look for the retail package of Vista...as it was pre-installed into the computer when I bought it.
 
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will it transfer my Thunderbird emails? or will I have to do a back up according to this thread?

and thanks for the links!

@ Qyot27: and where do I look for the retail package of Vista...as it was pre-installed into the computer when I bought it.
There is a free program called MozBackup that you can get to backup your emails and settings in both firefox and thunderbird. I love it as I've formatted a few times in the past year with the new install of 7.

You can get it here: MozBackup - Backup tool for Firefox and Thunderbird
 
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@ Qyot27: and where do I look for the retail package of Vista...as it was pre-installed into the computer when I bought it.
Chances are then, you don't have one. You might have a restore disc, but that won't work. I don't think vendors are kind enough to supply you with a regular retail copy of the OS anymore these days. Or if they do, only at a premium.

When you get the copy of Windows 7, it'll depend on what it says on the box/disc. If it says 'Upgrade' then the only thing it might let you do is do a fresh install to a new partition (which would include a second internal hard drive, if you have one), setting up a dual-boot environment and using the existing Vista install on the hard drive as its verification. I honestly don't know, I've never personally gone through the process of upgrading Windows. I'm still on XP.

If it won't verify against the installed Vista, then you'd have to go buy a retail copy of it (although if that were the case, just buy the retail version of 7 instead - Home Premium if you don't need it for an extra-powerful* computer, Pro or Ultimate if you are using such a machine). If the copy you get actually isn't the upgrade version, then you have nothing to worry about as it won't need to verify against anything.

*'extra-powerful' in this case, refers mainly to the RAM - Home Premium is limited to 16 GB of RAM, Pro and Ultimate can have up to 192 GB (not that any consumer setups have nearly that much yet, but HP does have the option for 24 GB in one of their customization options, and that would require Pro or Ultimate to take advantage of the extra RAM). Pro and Ultimate also have the option of using Windows XP mode.
 
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My brother just ran a Windows 7 upgrade yesterday and he said it scrambled his hard drive.
Mmm...tasty.

He had just done a backup, so all way pretty much ok.

In case you're wondering, no he didn't call me before he proceeded with the upgrade. lol I'd have warned him!
:)
 
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Qyöt27;53491640 said:
Chances are then, you don't have one. You might have a restore disc, but that won't work. I don't think vendors are kind enough to supply you with a regular retail copy of the OS anymore these days. Or if they do, only at a premium.

When you get the copy of Windows 7, it'll depend on what it says on the box/disc. If it says 'Upgrade' then the only thing it might let you do is do a fresh install to a new partition (which would include a second internal hard drive, if you have one), setting up a dual-boot environment and using the existing Vista install on the hard drive as its verification. I honestly don't know, I've never personally gone through the process of upgrading Windows. I'm still on XP.

If it won't verify against the installed Vista, then you'd have to go buy a retail copy of it (although if that were the case, just buy the retail version of 7 instead - Home Premium if you don't need it for an extra-powerful* computer, Pro or Ultimate if you are using such a machine). If the copy you get actually isn't the upgrade version, then you have nothing to worry about as it won't need to verify against anything.

*'extra-powerful' in this case, refers mainly to the RAM - Home Premium is limited to 16 GB of RAM, Pro and Ultimate can have up to 192 GB (not that any consumer setups have nearly that much yet, but HP does have the option for 24 GB in one of their customization options, and that would require Pro or Ultimate to take advantage of the extra RAM). Pro and Ultimate also have the option of using Windows XP mode.

ok...what I got was an upgrade CD (free) of Windows 7 HP-64 bit.

I"m not familiar with partitioning of hard drives...all I want was to either upgrade to 7 or do a fresh install. I really don't care for Vista.

if I really want to do a DIY, it's free...but if done by Best Buy, it'd be 39.99 for the Geek Squad to do it. I've done a fresh install of XP over ME by myself. and believe me, that's hard to do for someone who is just a low level geek. LOL I'm just hoping it'd be easier this time around with Windows 7.
 
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my only worry is that if the upgrade asks to verify that I have Vista....when I registered at the Dell site when and where I bought the computer. Vista is pre-installed...aha...found it: my re-installation Vista DVD.... would that help to verify that I has Vista?
 
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my only worry is that if the upgrade asks to verify that I have Vista....when I registered at the Dell site when and where I bought the computer. Vista is pre-installed...aha...found it: my re-installation Vista DVD.... would that help to verify that I has Vista?
No, it will not - I mentioned this in my last post. Those CDs/DVDs are restore discs, not install discs. Restore discs are typically just a bootable Ghost image and require a fraction of the setup process that install discs do, all post-restoration at that. They also tend to be very tied to the particular hardware they came with, and you may or may not have gotten the serial number of the OS copy either (this final point being the initial reason why restore discs won't work).
 
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