Windows 10 - Linux Edition

[MoreCoffee]

It's a definite improvement, but Vista wasn't super stable either. My daughter's old computer ran Vista and she had piles of problems with it. ME was the worst one though.

Sure, but picking a lemon in the Linux family during the past 12 years is easy to do, right?

 

[Cute Tink]

Sure, but picking a lemon in the Linux family during the past 12 years is easy to do, right?

I'm quite sure.

I dual boot personally. I boot to Windows when I'm doing something, like Netflix or certain games, that just runs better on my machine under Windows. I'm no Linux purist.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I'm quite sure.

I dual boot personally. I boot to Windows when I'm doing something, like Netflix or certain games, that just runs better on my machine under Windows. I'm no Linux purist.

I use a virtual machine to run other operating systems under Windows 7.

 

[C-Man]

Sure, but picking a lemon in the Linux family during the past 12 years is easy to do, right?

Anything with Unity pretty much fits the bill.
Systemd isn't helping either.


Remember when XP first came out, before Service Pack 1? It was not great. Half my programs had glitches or wouldn't run at all. Once SP1 came out, that pretty much made it the best version of Windows ever.

 

[FreedByte]

the Linux religion.

flaming.

 

[FreedByte]

Sure, but picking a lemon in the Linux family during the past 12 years is easy to do, right?

RebeccaBlackOS | SourceForge.net

 

[FreedByte]

I dual boot personally. I boot to Windows when I'm doing something, like Netflix or certain games, that just runs better on my machine under Windows. I'm no Linux purist.

I'm not a "linux purist" because I have used Windows at previous jobs, but for home use I have absolutely no use for Windows. Even for games, so many Steam games are linux compatible now that I dont see much use for Windows.

 

[FreedByte]

Once SP1 came out, that pretty much made it the best version of Windows ever.

Yeah, and now it's unsupported

 

[lesliedellow]

flaming.

You should talk. Slagging off Windows is the Linux crowd's favourite hobby. They have never yet explained why Linux has got 2.5% of the desktop market, and Windows has got 95%; seeing as Linux is so great, and Windows costs money.

Oh, and by the way, although it is true that Linux has a larger share of the server market, as of April 2014, the lead was only 4.7%.

 

[FreedByte]

You should talk. Slagging off Windows is the Linux crowd's favourite hobby.

Yeah but that's not flaming. Saying that one OS is worse than another is not the same thing as insulting its users. I have never insulted Windows users.

Besides, if Linux is a religion, then what is Windows?

They have never yet explained why Linux has got 2.5% of the desktop market, and Windows has got 95%; seeing as Linux is so great, and Windows costs money.

Well, the reason why it became the #1 in mobile is that it's preinstalled. Windows and OSX are the preinstalled OSes for the desktop market, so they are the widely adopted OSes.

And the main reasons that manufacturers are reluctant to preinstall linux are:

- conservative consumers
- compatibility (games/some hardware)

Oh, and by the way, although it is true that Linux has a larger share of the server market, as of April 2014, the lead was only 4.7%.

And?

 

[lesliedellow]

And?

And, how Linux "dominates" the server market is something else we constantly hear from the true believers. 4.7% does not justify that adjective.

If there was the demand, games and other software would be marketed for Linux. After all, software houses are in the business of making money.

 

[FreedByte]

And, how Linux "dominates" the server market is something else we constantly hear from the true believers. 4.7% does not justify that adjective.

When did I use that adjective? Can't tell if strawman or ad hominem

If there was the demand, games and other software would be marketed for Linux. After all, software houses are in the business of making money.

Sure, but it goes both ways. If games and other software were made for linux, there would be more demand. Currently both are happening gradually

 

[MoreCoffee]

Anything with Unity pretty much fits the bill.
Systemd isn't helping either.


Remember when XP first came out, before Service Pack 1? It was not great. Half my programs had glitches or wouldn't run at all. Once SP1 came out, that pretty much made it the best version of Windows ever.

I still run Windows XP on a netbook and in a virtual machine under windows 7. I still like it. And it still runs all my hardware, both old and new.

 

[FreedByte]

I still run Windows XP on a netbook and in a virtual machine under windows 7. I still like it. And it still runs all my hardware, both old and new.

Out of curiosity, what benefits does it offer over Windows 7?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Out of curiosity, what benefits does it offer over Windows 7?

For the netbook it offers the only pre-installed os and that's fine with me because the netbook is three or so years old. For the desktop winxp offers no benefits that are not available under win7 but it does give me an environment that I use for developing Java software to run under winxp for the netbook and for people who still run win xp on their pcs.

 

[FreedByte]

and for people who still run win xp on their pcs.

Running in a VM like you're doing is fine but I definitely would advise against running it natively for obvious security reasons

 

[lesliedellow]

When did I use that adjective? Can't tell if strawman or ad hominem

It is neither. It is the typical reaction of a true believer when it is mentioned that this fabulous OS has only a tiny percentage of the desktop/laptop market.

Sure, but it goes both ways. If games and other software were made for linux, there would be more demand. Currently both are happening gradually

Both have been "happening" for as long as I can remember. At least Apple has the excuse that they threatened to sue anybody who copied their design; thereby ensuring the near monopoly of the PC/MS-DOS.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I hope Windows 10 will be good but in the end I do not care too much if it is or not as long as Windows 7 remains a supported OS. From what I have seen on yourtube and read on various web pages Windows 10 looks like it will be good. Time will tell.

 

[FreedByte]

It is the typical reaction

So strawman...?

of a true believer when it is mentioned that this fabulous OS

so ad hominem...?

At least Apple has the excuse that they threatened to sue anybody who copied their design

elementary OS Luna:

 

[lesliedellow]

So strawman....

The internet is full of those so called strawmen.

The fact that they themselves got it from Xerox PARC did not prevent Apple from threatening to sue everybody else; Microsoft not excluded.