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I remember being cursed and called racist for going on calls of reported crimes and arresting suspects reported by name. The suspect/criminal was black, the victim (caller) was black, the onlookers were black and I was racist for responding. It got really old. The jurisdiction was around 65% white, 25% black and 10% other. Unfortunately reported suspects and arrests made were black more than half of the time. I wish it wasn't so. And I wish it would change.

On the other hand there are statistics, accounting for race, that show a greater likelihood of violence in interactions of cops and black suspects. I don't know if those statistics can take into account the increasing hatred of cops, BLM, antifa, etc. I can't say if more cops are willing to go rough on black suspects or if more black suspects are willing to go rough on cops. Or some of both.
 
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Couple of issues with the article (and not surprising given that it's from InfoWars, but none the less)

1) It operates on the failed premise that because a group has a higher crime rate, that justifies excessive force by police or somehow diminishes the justification of their anger. The old "Well, had that kid not have shoplifted, there never would've been an incident and they wouldn't have shot him" logic...

2) Fails to take into account population sizes when spewing the "whites are twice as likely to be killed by police statistic". That one is quite easy to debunk:
White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

3) It's taking what's actually partially a poverty thing, and trying to portray it as a "black" thing, there just happens to be a higher amount of blacks living in poverty so it makes it easy for them to employ this logic flaw.


Bottom line is...I doesn't matter if blacks commit 100% of the murders, that doesn't justify police overusing force, nor does it invalidate the anger of the black community when it happens. People like Alex Jones trotting out these statistics for convenient partisan pandering (especially after he spent 10 pre-Trump years railing against the institution of law enforcement to spread his "they're trying to have a police state" paranoia) is a giant red herring.
 
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All these supposed crimes being committed by so called “black people” are actually well thought out events orchestrated by a deep state using paid actors in order to confiscate firearms and incarcerate African Americans.

Excellent!

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Why would I pass anything from infowars on to anyone? I'm trying to make the world a better-informed place, not the opposite.

What information do you think is more important than facts?
 
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What does this have to with innocent black people being harassed and killed by cops?

There are relevant conclusions that can be drawn from the facts that are available concerning this matter. Of course they must be gathered, assembled, and presented in a comprehensive way, which to date has not happened.
 
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What information do you think is more important than facts?

There are facts, lies, durn lies, and statistics. Infowars is full of durn lies.

"whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011, 2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks."

The bolded text is a lie. An obvious lie. A childish lie. Only the innumerate would fall for such a transparent lie.
 
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The badly misinformed players.
And you wish to add to the problem by broadcasting misdirection, inaccuracies and biased perspectives? It is difficult for me to understand how an intelligent person can see value in such manipulation. It is difficult for me to understand how a compassionate person can believe such pandering to divisiveness can benefit society.
 
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There are facts, lies, durn lies, and statistics. Infowars is full of durn lies.

"whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011, 2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks."

The bolded text is a lie. An obvious lie. A childish lie. Only the innumerate would fall for such a transparent lie.

All such articles cherry-pick their facts to make their point, but that doesn't debunk those facts.

1.9 times is "almost twice" (unless my math is off).
 
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And you wish to add to the problem by broadcasting misdirection, inaccuracies and biased perspectives? It is difficult for me to understand how an intelligent person can see value in such manipulation. It is difficult for me to understand how a compassionate person can believe such pandering to divisiveness can benefit society.

Check with the source of your choice (The FBI Crime Statistics is a good one). There's too much passion in this issue. More facts are needed.
 
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Check with the source of your choice (The FBI Crime Statistics is a good one). There's too much passion in this issue. More facts are needed.
Precisely. So why are you peddling distorted information? If you don't wish people to think you have a biased agenda stop posting material that promotes a biased agenda.
 
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Why would I pass anything from infowars on to anyone? I'm trying to make the world a better-informed place, not the opposite.

I'd be embarrassed to forward any of their material.

All such articles cherry-pick their facts to make their point, but that doesn't debunk those facts.

1.9 times is "almost twice" (unless my math is off).

Do you really not understand the difference between raw numbers and rates of incident? Are you telling us that you've been around here this long and not picked up on that yet?
 
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The badly misinformed players.
So if a player is taking a knee because their aunt, uncle, cousins, mom, brother and/or sister have ALL been given undue and prejudice treatment by police, they are underinformed because inner city gangs kill a lot of folks.

Here's a question: Why do you use inner city gang violence as a means of explaining the ENTIRETY of the black experience in America?
 
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Do you really not understand the difference between raw numbers and rates of incident? Are you telling us that you've been around here this long and not picked up on that yet?

Let's bring all the numbers to the table, and see what we've got.
 
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Here's a question: Why do you use inner city gang violence as a means of explaining the ENTIRETY of the black experience in America?

I'm not. I'm citing black violence as it reflects on the whole black community.
 
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