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Will everyone eventually get out of Hell?

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paul123

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I believe that the God of Moses, is a merciful God. After all, he did die and go to Hell and then rose on the third day so that we wouldn't have to be under his judgment. This question that I will bring up is in no way related to scripture other than the fact that God is infinately merciful. Here it is.
If some one in Heaven asks God to to let all souls out of Hell, do you think he will?
 

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I believe that the God of Moses, is a merciful God. After all, he did die and go to Hell and then rose on the third day so that we wouldn't have to be under his judgment. This question that I will bring up is in no way related to scripture other than the fact that God is infinately merciful. Here it is.
If some one in Heaven asks God to to let all souls out of Hell, do you think he will?
for starters,

Jesus did not decend into Hell!

1Pe 3:18 because also Christ once for sin did suffer -- righteous for unrighteous -- that he might lead us to God, having been put to death indeed, in the flesh, and having been made alive in the spirit,
1Pe 3:19 in which also to the spirits in prison having gone he did preach,


Spirits in prison passes for spirits in Hell now?

This passage is only symbolic!


Act 2:24 But God hath resuscitated him, and hath loosed the cords of the grave; because it could not be, that he should be held in the grave.
Act 2:25 For David said of him: I foresaw my Lord at all times; for he is on my right hand, so that I shall not be moved.
Act 2:26 Therefore my heart doth rejoice, and my glory exult, and also my body shall abide in hope.
Act 2:27 For thou wilt not leave my soul in the grave, nor wilt thou give thy pious one to see corruption.

this verse says clearly that Jesus was in the grave for three days, that's hades in the greek and sheol in hebrew!
 
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I believe that the God of Moses, is a merciful God. After all, he did die and go to Hell and then rose on the third day so that we wouldn't have to be under his judgment. This question that I will bring up is in no way related to scripture other than the fact that God is infinately merciful. Here it is.
If some one in Heaven asks God to to let all souls out of Hell, do you think he will?
It is very simple.

As universal was that of the Fall, so should there be universal forgiveness for all.

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And, following on Martymonster's post, people don't go to heaven. We are resurrected to live on the new earth. The last scene in Revelation is heaven coming to earth, not earth going to heaven.

Will everyone be there? That's a good question. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. Conservative Christians will tell you that confessing Jesus as Lord is tantamount to being saved. Yet they will also tell you that everyone that confesses Christ as Lord will not ultimately be saved. Quite a dilema for them.

The beauty of the kingdom of God is that death is finally swallowed up in life. God's love, not his wrath, endures forever. His wrath is only for a season to that we come to the end of ourselves and recognize his love. In the end, God's will is done on earth as it is in heaven. And his will is that no should perish but that all will come to life.

How he will accomplish all of this, well, that is conjecture. But the gates of hell, such as they are, will not prevail. God will be all in all.
 
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Will everyone eventually get out of Hell?

Yes

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
 
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I believe that the God of Moses, is a merciful God. After all, he did die and go to Hell and then rose on the third day so that we wouldn't have to be under his judgment. This question that I will bring up is in no way related to scripture other than the fact that God is infinately merciful. Here it is.
If some one in Heaven asks God to to let all souls out of Hell, do you think he will?
If their lucky they might get out 100,000,000000,000000000000000 years early for good behaviour!

so how long does that leave then?
 
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I embraced what I consider Christian universalism about 15 years ago. I personally can't believe that God would roast anyone in the fires of "hell" - a word that some scholars say really isn't in the Bible at all - for all eternity. If God is Love AND omnipotent, then it seems no one will be excluded from reconciliation. And I think there are good Biblical reasons for embracing this doctrine. In fact, I truly believe - along with a certain biblical scholar (E.P Sanders at Duke) - that the Apostle Paul himself embraced universalism, which is evident from an honest reading of Romans, chs. 9-11. It's a fact attested by no other than Augustine himself that the many Christians of his age believed that everyone would be saved. And think of such greats as Origen and Gregory of Nyssa. Gregory was never condemned as a heretic for his belief in universalism and Origen was condemned after his death for other theological matters, not his universalism. And, of course,there are a great cloud of witnesses in the modern church who embraced universalism: Schleiermacher, MacDonald, Barth (sort of ), Brunner, Tillich, Bonhoeffer, and Bulgakov (Russian Orthodox). Hopeful universalists include Balthasar and Rahner, both Catholics. It's a great doctrine that I've embraced because it does true justice to the Johannine proclamation "God is Love". That is, the essence of God's being is love, something the Augustinians/Calvinists could never accept. By the way, it is said that my denominations "founder", John Wesley, accepted the doctrine himself later in his life, as evidenced by his sermon, "The Fall of Man". (Although I'm not sure about this...it would be nice if we could really prove that..at least, Wesley accepted Love as the essence of God's Being.)
 
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Dear paul 123, I must admit, I never noticed Rev. 20:13, but there it says hell, and when Jesus warned us of outer darkness, without God`s Love or Light, he meant the place where those men or women go, who turn away from God, who do not want to return to God. I always thought of hell as Satan`s home/residence, and I can only think that Satan`s followers choose that. But you are right when you say, our God is a merciful and forgiving God, and what exactly is meant in Revelation. But I certainly cannot find anywhere in the Bible, where everyone will get out of Satan`s Hell. I say this humbly and with conviction, paul 123, and send greetings. Emmy, sister in Christ. P.S. Everybody is given many chances from a loving God, to avoid eternity without Him.
 
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Two things to note:

One there are 3 references to outer darkness, all three of which are in Matthew, none of which state without God's love or light.

Two: Outer darkness to me is figurative langauge for ignorance in spirit.

Many live [here on earth] at this very moment in the outer darkness, many of them Christian.
 
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dear Soul Searcher, yes, you are right, and I owe you an apology. The place in outer darkness is not mentioned " without God`s Love or Light," but it says instead: "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." I was remembering it less severe, but without God is worse. Sorry, Soul Searcher. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ. P.S. weepind and gnashing of teeth, sounds desperate, to me.
 
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No need to apologize.

And yes weeping and gnashing of teeth does sound bad.

However weeping and gnashing of teeth could have a variety of meanings and not nessacarily indicate an eternal fate.

I should add that there is much weeping and gnashing of teeth [sorrow and anger] in this world today and has been all along and if only people would actaully live as Jesus taught that weeping and gnashing of teeth would go away or most of it anyway.
 
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I believe that the God of Moses, is a merciful God. After all, he did die and go to Hell and then rose on the third day so that we wouldn't have to be under his judgment. This question that I will bring up is in no way related to scripture other than the fact that God is infinately merciful. Here it is.
If some one in Heaven asks God to to let all souls out of Hell, do you think he will?
Yes.
 
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