Wiki Poll: Opening Statement

[Debi1967]

What do you think of mine with the "unchanging and absolute" part added into it?

As conservative Christians we believe that the Truth - which is by its nature unchanging and absolute - exists completely outside of our understanding of it, and that God, from Whom procedes all Truth, has chosen to reveal Truth to mankind in His Word, aka the Bible, and to embody it first in His only begotten Son, Jesus, and then progressively in the Church, which is comprised of all who call upon the Name of the Lord Jesus, submitting their lives to Him.
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Now I like this one much better and it DOES NOT alienate those of us that believe in Both Scripture and Tradition

 

[Iosias]

Ok, but can you acknowledge that voicing opinions like women should only wear skirts in a non Fundamentalist forum is gonna cause strife? Can you not step back so we can all avoid it? Please?

So are you saying that a conservative evangelical is not allowed to debate in a forum for Conservative Christians?

 

[Iosias]

Why not just have this?

"Conservative Christianity is defined by its allegiance to the Holy Scriptures and the traditional beliefs and teachings of the Christian Church on issues of theology and morality."

 

[GreenMunchkin]

So are you saying that a conservative evangelical is not allowed to debate in a forum for Conservative Christians?

But, bro, your thoughts on music and women... those are absolutely Fundamentalst views. I know for *certain* it's specifically in the Wiki that this is not a Fundamentalist forum.

I guess I don't understand why you'd want to debate here if you know it's gonna cause arguments.

 

[Debi1967]

Conservative Christianity is defined by its allegiance to the Holy Scriptures and the traditional beliefs and teachings of the Christian Church on issues of theology and morality. Central to this worldview is the belief that Truth exists objectively and independently of our perception. Truth is unchanging and absolute. God is Truth. He has revealed His Truth in the Holy Bible alone.

NO again my same objection this alienates those conservative Christians that believe in both Scriptura and Tradition

 

[Iosias]

NO again my same objection this alienates those conservative Christians that believe in both Scriptura and Tradition

We need to find out where we agree rather than adding in what we disagree on. so Why not just have this?

"Conservative Christianity is defined by its allegiance to the Holy Scriptures and the traditional beliefs and teachings of the Christian Church on issues of theology and morality."

 

[Iosias]

But, bro, your thoughts on music and women... those are absolutely Fundamentalst views.

According to what definition?

I know for *certain* it's specifically in the Wiki that this is not a Fundamentalist forum.

Who said that this was the Fundamentalist Forum? Not I.

As a conservative Christian I am able to discuss things with you.

 

[Debi1967]

We need to find out where we agree rather than adding in what we disagree on. so Why not just have this?

"Conservative Christianity is defined by its allegiance to the Holy Scriptures and the traditional beliefs and teachings of the Christian Church on issues of theology and morality."

That is fine I do not object to that but do not in anyway change opening statement again without us first having a discussion about it, that is what I think.

I want to see the full opening statement though before I say a further yay or nay

 

[Iosias]

That is fine I do not object to that but do not in anyway change opening statement again without us first having a discussion about it, that is what I think.

I want to see the full opening statement though before I say a further yay or nay

I did not change any opening statement or whatever

 

[Epiphanygirl]

NO again my same objection this alienates those conservative Christians that believe in both Scriptura and Tradition

And this is the main difference between "Fundamentalist" and "Conservative" from a religious pov, especially all us Apostolic Churches.

 

[Debi1967]

I did not change any opening statement or whatever

That wasn't directed at you specifically sorry if it came across that way I forget to use smileys a lot

 

[Debi1967]

And this is the main difference between "Fundamentalist" and "Conservative" from a religious pov, especially all us Apostolic Churches.

Well I am not here to say that fundamentalists can't be also called Conservative Christians I just think that the terminology Conservative Christians doesn't belong to one Faith per se and that you will find Conservative believing Christians in almost any Faith and they should all feel welcome here not just Fundamentalists otherwise then we should just rename this the Fundamentalist forum ...

 

[TomUK]

I like Simon's version.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

The whole point is this *isn't* a Fundamentalist forum. There's already one of those.

 

[Lisa0315]

My main thought on what differentiates a Conservative from a Fundementalist is the tone that is used. I have often pointed out that Catholics and Baptists preach the same message on social issues, but Catholics are not seen as unloving in their message. That says to me that there is a problem in the delivery. It is why I am a Conservative, rather than a Fundementalist.

I think our Love Rule should be key to determining who is a Conservative vs who is a Liberal or a Fundementalist.

Please, please do not take my words as offensive. I realize this is a touchy subject and I am not looking to exclude anyone. I am just trying to point out what I see as the difference here.

I love all of my brothers and sisters. Some are just a little easier...

Lisa

 

[Iosias]

The whole point is this *isn't* a Fundamentalist forum. There's already one of those.

Who is disputing that?

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

My main thought on what differentiates a Conservative from a Fundementalist is the tone that is used. I have often pointed out that Catholics and Baptists preach the same message on social issues, but Catholics are not seen as unloving in their message. That says to me that there is a problem in the delivery. It is why I am a Conservative, rather than a Fundementalist.

I think our Love Rule should be key to determining who is a Conservative vs who is a Liberal or a Fundementalist.

Please, please do not take my words as offensive. I realize this is a touchy subject and I am not looking to exclude anyone. I am just trying to point out what I see as the difference here.

I love all of my brothers and sisters. Some are just a little easier...

Lisa

 

[GreenMunchkin]

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[Iosias]

My main thought on what differentiates a Conservative from a Fundementalist is the tone that is used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Christianity

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Who is disputing that?

The point is that in the wiki opening statement for the "conservative christians" forum, we do not want it to read as close to the fundamentalist viewpoints as you are suggesting.