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I recognize this sentiment by Christians (defined as those who follow theCrispie said:Then you obviously havent read the bible much, or youd know that any religion besides Christianity is one of the most evil and hated things by God.
Heathen Dawn said:My expectation that a child should obey wouldn’t be very reasonable. It depends on the child. Some are, some aren’t. But, whatever the case, I’m NOT going to douse the child in petrol and set him alight after he does that. Which is what the Christian God does, multiplied into infinite extent.
He knew Adam wouldn’t pass the test, yet He set it up anyway. And He foreknew many people would not peruse the remedy of His blood-sacrifice, yet He’s going to put them in hell anyway.
Something is lacking in the intelligent design department.
Fuzzy said:I recognize this sentiment by Christians (defined as those who follow the
teachings of Christ) with regards to Wiccans, Neopagans, Hindus, Buddhists,
Satanists, and others, but is it also held towards followers of Judaism?
Seriously, I'm curious about this.
The Kabbalah? Jewish mysticism, gnosticism, sure, I can see how that couldLifesaver said:Anyway, present day Judaism has many ungodly elements to it. The Talmud, for one, and the Kabalah, a product of Gnosticism, is another.
Slayer-2004,
Who are Xians to question whether or not wicca is evil ?
Jesus explicitly founded the Church. Is He against that which Himself did?Starcrystal said:I think a lot of people are missing the whole point, and that many perceive the "church" as something that represents God when fopr the most part churches only represent MAN and what he thinks God is like. Jesus is against all such foolishness.
Indeed, many so-called churches believe that anything with a poor appearannce is evil. The true Church, on the other hand, even has mendicant orders which live in conditions of poverty themselves, so as to not use resources to be destined to those they are trying to help.John the baptist was out in the deserts like a shaman, and dressed himself in the skins of a camel, which was considered unclean under Jewish law. Yet God chose HIM to introduce Jesus to the world at the river. How would it be today if I walked into some suit and tie church wearing skins and feathers in my hair? Would all heads turn because the church is of MANS spirit and not Gods, and they judge according to appearances?
The Virgin Mary, the most blessed among all women, was chosen by God as well, and was neither a prostitute nor an adulteress, but the most chaste and modest of all women.For that matter, Jesus chose women who were prostitutes and adulteresses. He didn't choose the fine polished seminary trained religious leaders. I'm afraid the majority of that which claims to be the "church" is nothing but another institution of man: a philosophy of vain wisdom.
And now you think the Gospel has anything to do with your socialistic ideals, which are inherently anti-Christian and materialist.The church judges, it plays favorites, it holds mans positions in high esteem, in some cases they'll judge you right down to the clothes you wear! They, for the most part DO NOT care for the poor, but rather pick and choose who they'll give to ~ saying we need to be good stewards of OUR money, and only help those who are making some effort to help themselves. Yet I find NOWHERE in the Bible any such teaching. Jesus said give and don't let your left hand know what your right hand does. It says in Acts 2 & 4 that all the TRUE BELEIVERS were all together and had all things common, they shared their goods so that NO ONE LACKED ANYTHING.
Now your talk almost seems like that of Pagans, whose gods the Bible tells us to be demons.I'd rather sense Gods presence up on the mountain under the evergreen trees with some sage burning on a rock altar next to me, listening to the wind and the voice of the Spirit...... that is REALITY and TRUTH. 90% of the stuff in churches is a lot of talk and hype..... I've been a Christian 20 years and seen much. Thank God for lifting the blinders and showing the Truth!
Jesus explicitly founded the Church. Is He against that which Himself did?
Some people think God needs help, I guess.Instead of being so disgruntled about it, maybe He should do something about it Himself. If He lets people adhere to "false" religions, all of which are products of His Creation, whether directly or indirectly, then why is He so angry about it? That seems more childish than Godly. I mean, He should know, with his Infinite Wisdom, that as long as He allows other religions to exist, there will always be some peope who will adhere strictly to them, and as long as He allows people to strictly adhere to them, there is no way that some of them will change their minds.
Actually Jesus does not contradict himself, rather the teachings and writings written after his death by some of the apostles (namely paul) contradict Jesus teachings. Jesus himself did not found the physical church, that was founded some time later after his death.Yes , Jesus contradicts himself . *deep breath* Dont worry , you will get over it .
Lifesaver,
And now you think the Gospel has anything to do with your socialistic ideals, which are inherently anti-Christian and materialist.
Starcrystal said:They are not MY socialistic ideals ~ true socialism is taught in the scriptures, specifically in the end verses of Acts chapters 2 and 4.
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