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I have not prayed for Satan because God says so, but I get confused why ? We pray all the time for the bad people to become good. So why aren’t we allowed to pray ol mate himself to come good?
It gets so confusing. Probably because I am only human .
 

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Probably because I am only human .
Pray, pray more, read ALL the Bible, pray more, pray more, Read all the Bible,
then, pray with thanksgiving and rejoice that Yahweh sent Jesus to save "ONLY Humans".

Jesus could not and did not get sent to save nor to heal hasatan nor demons. Nothing can redeem them at all. Their future is ONLY to be destroyed in the lake of fire. (and too many humans along with them, but some humans are saved)
 
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Pray, pray more, read ALL the Bible, pray more, pray more, Read all the Bible,
then, pray with thanksgiving and rejoice that Yahweh sent Jesus to save "ONLY Humans".

Jesus could not and did not get sent to save nor to heal hasatan nor demons. Nothing can redeem them at all. Their future is ONLY to be destroyed in the lake of fire. (and too many humans along with them, but some humans are saved)
Thanks, to save humans makes sense.
I have been reading the bible for over 45 years, now to save humans is the first answer I understand. Thankyou
 
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I have not prayed for Satan because God says so, but I get confused why ? We pray all the time for the bad people to become good. So why aren’t we allowed to pray ol mate himself to come good?
It gets so confusing. Probably because I am only human .
I don't know of anywhere in the bible that says to pray for satan as his fate is sealed. Just remember that it was his choice.

I think I can relate to your dilemma though in a sense. Like I used to wonder how he can go about like a roaring lion looking to kill, steal, and destroy. I mean how can something be that bad. It blows the human mind.

I always go to God and ask Him directly when it comes to these things that I have trouble understanding, and He's been great at sharing with me.

So after asking him about the devil, not long afterward I had this dream that I do believe was from Him.

In real life I knew a young lady that dabbled in wicca. In my dream she walked in and I went to say hi when I sensed this evil presence emanating out of her that caused me to pause. Two other ladies came beside her, one stood to the left of her, the other to the right. I felt evil eminating out of them too, but it was stronger in her.

Now here is the thing. I knew that these evil entities wanted to hurt me, especially the one in her, and it would get much pleasure out of hurting me. I then woke from the dream. Upon waking I understood that, but I still felt I didn't fully get it, and within I understood that I would never fully get it because I will never be in that position.

But as time went on, more understanding did come. Satan has no light. There is nothing good in him. He is what one would call totally depraved. He's like someone that is totally depraved and empty and on the constant quest to fill up. That gives him pleasure, to do evil as there is no good in him, but his thirst is never fully quenched.

That's how I see God has revealed it to me and I get it now and have no issues with it, even if on a personal level I may not fully get it.

Even fallen man is not totally depraved in the sense that he has some knowledge of God within his conscience, and the bible does say that God's Spirit is at work hindering evil from fully flourishing in the world ... of now ...

So my suggestion is ask God about it, or any other thing that you may have an issue with, just know sometimes He answers us by showing us what we are like apart from his hand in our lives, so you have to be prepared for the answer.

But He loves that we take these things to Him because He does want to reveal Himself and his ways to us.
 
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I don't know of anywhere in the bible that says to pray for satan as his fate is sealed. Just remember that it was his choice.

I think I can relate to your dilemma though in a sense. Like I used to wonder how he can go about like a roaring lion looking to kill, steal, and destroy. I mean how can something be that bad. It blows the human mind.

I always go to God and ask Him directly when it comes to these things that I have trouble understanding, and He's been great at sharing with me.

So after asking him about the devil, not long afterward I had this dream that I do believe was from Him.

In real life I knew a young lady that dabbled in wicca. In my dream she walked in and I went to say hi when I sensed this evil presence emanating out of her that caused me to pause. Two other ladies came beside her, one stood to the left of her, the other to the right. I felt evil eminating out of them too, but it was stronger in her.

Now here is the thing. I knew that these evil entities wanted to hurt me, especially the one in her, and it would get much pleasure out of hurting me. I then woke from the dream. Upon waking I understood that, but I still felt I didn't fully get it, and within I understood that I would never fully get it because I will never be in that position.

But as time went on, more understanding did come. Satan has no light. There is nothing good in him. He is what one would call totally depraved. He's like someone that is totally depraved and empty and on the constant quest to fill up. That gives him pleasure, to do evil as there is no good in him, but his thirst is never fully quenched.

That's how I see God has revealed it to me and I get it now and have no issues with it, even if on a personal level I may not fully get it.

Even fallen man is not totally depraved in the sense that he has some knowledge of God within his conscience, and the bible does say that God's Spirit is at work hindering evil from fully flourishing in the world ... of now ...

So my suggestion is ask God about it, or any other thing that you may have an issue with, just know sometimes He answers us by showing us what we are like apart from his hand in our lives, so you have to be prepared for the answer.

But He loves that we take these things to Him because He does want to reveal Himself and his ways to us.
 
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Wow that one bought a tear to my eyes, I actually hadn’t asked God himself to be honest, I just kept looking in the bible now I will, I seemed to of been searching this answer in all the wrong places, instead of simply asking our lord , holy smokes how something so easy was in front of me the whole time. I will be asking the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit , I get the most unusual question come to me and just want to say Thank you. I really appreciate your answer. Hopefully the nightmares stop, it has given me great turmoil , another trick played on me. He is a snakey sneaky one. I almost felt bad let me amplify “almost” hence the questions in the first place. Please pray for me to ask the correct questions. Thankyou
 
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I have not prayed for Satan because God says so, but I get confused why ? We pray all the time for the bad people to become good. So why aren’t we allowed to pray ol mate himself to come good?
It gets so confusing. Probably because I am only human .

"Ol mate himself" is on God´s payroll. there is no dualism, God is one.

The Satan is a job title, mainly to test but only as much as God allows.

David prayed that his enemies be chased by the angel of God.

Queen Mary feared the prayers of John Knox more than all Europes (edit) armies.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
 
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Wow that one bought a tear to my eyes, I actually hadn’t asked God himself to be honest, I just kept looking in the bible now I will, I seemed to of been searching this answer in all the wrong places, instead of simply asking our lord , holy smokes how something so easy was in front of me the whole time. I will be asking the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit , I get the most unusual question come to me and just want to say Thank you. I really appreciate your answer. Hopefully the nightmares stop, it has given me great turmoil , another trick played on me. He is a snakey sneaky one. I almost felt bad let me amplify “almost” hence the questions in the first place. Please pray for me to ask the correct questions. Thankyou
Yes, I love how He does it. Another time I asked Him why does the bible mention so much to praise to Him. So I confessed to Him that it sounded vain, but I knew it was a misunderstanding on my part and asked Him to help me understand it.

Think it was the following week I was praising my mom and telling her how beautiful she looked and on and on I went, and right there I knew in my Spirit He was saying, that is what it is like to praise me. It isn't some insatiable need or vanity on my part. It is the revelation of how good and beautiful I am that you cannot help but express it. You can't hold it in. It has to be expressed.

The bible says there is continuous praises in heaven that surround his throne. You cannot get into his presence without your spirit rising up in praises.

We often try and work this out in the flesh when we should just ask Him to reveal Himself to us so that we can genuinely worship Him.

The Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak so doesn't hurt to try and get beyond the flesh, but if it isn't coming, time to just ask for a greater revelation of Him.

Never hide in shame. He knows we don't get Him and wants to reveal Himself to us. If we try and hide it, He'll pull it out of us until we bring it to Him.
 
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I have not prayed for Satan because God says so, but I get confused why ? We pray all the time for the bad people to become good. So why aren’t we allowed to pray ol mate himself to come good?
It gets so confusing. Probably because I am only human .
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Satan has already been tried and judged, he satan is just waiting for his sentence to be carried out. Which is he has been sentenced to the lake of fire.
 
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"Ol mate himself" is on God´s payroll. there is no dualism, God is one.

The Satan is a job title, mainly to test but only as much as God allows.

David prayed that his enemies be chased by the angel of God.

Queen Mary feared the prayers of John Knox more than all Europes (edit) armies.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
? Careful what I wish for? Wow that sounds loaded, I haven’t wished for anything for that or in that just understanding why , big difference.
Certainly sounds as though you are saying I wish for that depraved in hell ol mate, far from it. Holy smokes that’s really inappropriate, if you cannot understand what I have asked as others have ! Don’t come at me with the “careful what I wish for” not cool ! Get your facts , and go bother someone else. On his payroll - really… shhhm
 
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? Careful what I wish for? Wow that sounds loaded, I haven’t wished for anything for that or in that just understanding why , big difference.
Certainly sounds as though you are saying I wish for that depraved in hell ol mate, far from it. Holy smokes that’s really inappropriate, if you cannot understand what I have asked as others have ! Don’t come at me with the “careful what I wish for” not cool ! Get your facts , and go bother someone else. On his payroll - really… shhhm

Calm down, I was not attacking you or anyone, I wrote "As the saying goes...."

Good to know though, that I am not on everyones ignore list.
 
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At the very least, there are some calling out and personal attacks here. Please remember to address the post and not the poster. Thanks!
 
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I do not know, I know almost nothing about their lives, though I think Queen Mary lost her head. (executed)

John Knox was protestant and Mary was Catholic.

But through observations one can draw conclusions, check out Psalms 58:10.

Maybe a clue there.
 
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I do not know, I know almost nothing about their lives, though I think Queen Mary lost her head. (executed)

John Knox was protestant and Mary was Catholic.

But through observations one can draw conclusion.,
 
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