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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?

When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense. A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time. A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?

We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!


Why??
 

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God's Word is full.... of promises.
And, over the past 12 years that I have been a Christian....God has never let me down.

He is always there when I need him.
Through the worst of times...
My Lord is there.

Friend,
this was not the case before I was a Christian.
Nothing worked.
Everything came up empty.
Something was missing.

And... (here is the funny part. Not.)
I was raised in a "religion".
But, a religion....is not a relationship.
They are very different.

Life is not easier being a Christian.
My Lord is just with me.
All the time.

I cannot deny His existence.

This is why.
 
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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?

When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense. A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time. A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?

We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!


Why??

Because only the Bible is repeatedly shown to be true through prophecy (no other religious text contains much prophecy, at all, and none of which comes even close to being 100% accurate), archeology, and numerous other avenues. If the Bible is true, then Christianity is true and the God that the Bible proclaims is the one and only God.


So, what are all these proofs of the Bible?



When reading the Bible you will find that it is the most amazing book on the planet. The unity of the it is nothing short of a miracle. Throughout all 66 books, the same thoughts, themes and story is expressed.


Consider the astounding conditions under which the Bible was written...

Forty different authors writing over a period of 1,600 years penned the 66 books of the Bible. Four hundred silent years separated the 39 books of the Old Testament from the 27 of the New Testament. Yet, from Genesis to Revelation, they tell one unfolding story.

The Old Testament starts with the beginning of the Universe, and ends in Malachi with the promise of a coming Messiah. The New Testament starts with the birth of the Messiah in Matthew, and ends in Revelation with the destruction of the Universe and the promise of heaven. Every book in the Bible connects to the other books perfectly to tell the story of man’s sin and God’s plan of salvation.

When we look at this book, it shows an amazing unity—as if a single, guiding hand was behind it.

As those forty men wrote the Bible they were on 3 separate continents, yet they all wrote one unified message, the good news about Jesus the Christ. In that day, they had no mail delivery trucks, no drop ship planes, no Federal Express, no UPS and no e-mail. So how could it be that over such a great span of time, with the authors writing from 3 different continents that they all managed to write one coherent, unified message? Because as the men wrote, God spoke.

The unity of the Bible is an awesome piece of evidence that shows that the Bible is exactly what it says it is, the word of God, but it is only the tip of the iceberg. The Bible's blatant honesty, its historical and geographical accuracy, its prophetic accuracy, its awesome power to change lives and the amazing fact that it is still around are all further evidences that the Bible is the very words of God.

Following are some topics and links to study, concerning the validity of the Bible. If you are doubting the Bible, please lay your doubt aside and proceed with an open mind, and heart, and see what the evidence has to say.

Two excellent ebooks on the subject:
How Do You Know the Bible is From God?
In Defense of the Bible's Inspiration

Another good read:
10 Reasons to Believe in the Bible


Proof of Textual Evidence
Old Testament:
The Dead Sea Scrolls and Biblical Integrity

New Testament:
New Testament Reliability

More on the Bible:
The Bible
Questions About The Bible


Proof of People Living at the Time of Christ
Extra Biblical Accounts
Josephus
Ancient Evidence for Jesus


Proof of Archaeology
Archeology and the Bible
Associates for Biblical Research
BASE Institute
Biblical Archeology


Proof of Science
Statements Consistent With
...Paleontology
...Astronomy
...Meteorology
...Biology
...Anthropology
...Hydrology
...Geology
Science & the Bible
Scientific Accuracies of the Bible
101 Scientific Facts & Foreknowledge


Proof of Prophecy (Messanic & dealing with nations)
The Bible: Proofs of Its Supernatural Origin
Messianic Prophecies
Fulfilled Bible Prophecy Dealing With Nations
Prophecy, the Bible and Jesus
Prophecy Revealed
How Do You Know The Bible Is True?

If the Bible is true, Christianity is true. In Christianity, faith is required but it does not have to be a blind faith. If you are genuinely seeking God, you owe it to yourself to seriously study these things.

God bless!
 
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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?
Isn't it a bit arrogant to say all the people, scientists, statemen and founding fathers of our country, are all stupid and only you at 17 know what is true?? It's okay, I was the same at your age, but if you ever really study or have an encounter with God and His Spirit of truth, I hope you will respond positivly towards what is true and NEVER accept lies. The Bible says to prove all things, yet you assume it full of the evil that men commit while trying to usurp the power of God and His words of truth. ANYTHING can be corrupted by man just so that men can wield power over each other. It is Jesus who said He came to set men free of the sin nature and death by giving us the truth.
When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense. A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time. A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?
Check out the internet, pal, Noah's Ark is real, and archeology and science have been proving the Bible correct for the last 100 years of man's so-called big knowledge. Just look at creation. Stand in the middle of the awesome intelligent design and deny a Creator.
It is only recently that we could say what the Bible says, "All things we see are made of the unseen", and indeed our reality is made up of more of the unseen than the seen. Of course it doesn't count when the Bible speaks of the "circle of the earth" over 2500 years ago.
With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?
Religion can = men making God, but that does not mean that God has not revealed the truth and has no power to do so. Why be so narrow as to think a Creator of such ellegant and intelligent design would be so stupid?? Ignorance and arrogance on our part. We are dead spiritually even though the spiritual realm is just another of the dimensions we do not yet see. M-Theory and String theory of mathematics tells us that there is 10 dimensions that our universe is made up of. Why do we only see three and then need a clock for the fourth? Because we are blind and near dead to the others.
ALL suffering falls upon yours and my shoulders mankinds. What have you or I done today to relieve those refuges in Darfur? Why do we have ease and comfort while our neighbor goes starving to death overnight. Why don't you do as Jesus said or asked, "Did you feed me when I was hungry", "Did you clothe me when I was naked", "Did you give me shelter even when I was a stranger"? "Did you vist and give me fellowship and friendship when I was sick?" SO WHAT is the evil in that message Jesus gave us as our job to look after in this life we are responsible for? He has made us our brothers keeper yet we would rather party and have a good time without the bother of looking after our neighbors and then turn about and falsely accuse God of our own neglect and blind eye to suffering in the world..
Ya know, God's laws are only two now with the New Covenant - Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength, which is only fitting, and to love your neighbor as you love yourself, and that is the basic love we all give in nurturing and feeding our bodies to care for them - not a self-esteem issue.. I'm sure someone starving would rather feed their body long before their ego. [/quote]
We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?
Time is relative to many things or have you not yet heard of Einstein and his theory of relativity who was a believer in God? Time can be anything from none to any number depending upon relativity... Get our your measuring stick and study some math....The mass of the universe before the big bang traveling at the speed of light means at any relative point, creation could have happened in six days in one place and twenty billion the next. There are lots of good books supporting this theory out there and they are not all Christian. If you don't look unbiased and only seek the negative, that is all you will find and never have a chance to make an unprejudiced decision about truth.

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!


Why??
People who truly seek the truth will finally know that men have wicked hearts that are hungry only for power, and they don't mind using God's name to get that power. If they can motivate by fear, the very opposite of faith, then they will use that to get you to do what they want - like get your money, but that does not mean that God has no power to communicate effectivly, which He has, to those who will seek Him and truth with all their hearts. If we were really so smart about life, we would be able to make at least one cell of life live, yet we are arrogant and narrow out the possibility of an intelligent designer to all the great intelligence we see even inside one of those so-called simple single celled organisms.
Calling God evil because the hearts of men constantly dream up ways to merchandise and rip each other off for power and selfish ambition just smacks of the larger hipocrisy that dwells within the hearts of men.
Is hell your excuse not to believe? I doubt that. It is just another misunderstanding that people like to use to get what they want. I see that you do not understand even what the Biblical word hell stands for because hell was a holding place that exists outside of time, but you can study that if your interested at a different time or remain ignorant of its true meaning. The Greek words and the English often did not always match up well in translation, so it was left to the translator to interpret, but even if there was a real place of eternal punishment like a lake of fire, have I not heard men say that this person did not deserve to escape punishment so easily by death? What is truly just if you are tortured for years by another? Are you really a better judge of life and death than the Creator Himself? I don't think any man can judge over what he has no power over, but because of our blind ignorance and arrogance, not knowing much of aything about life and death, we think we can speak out against the very light that reflects off of all that He is. He is merciful and just to forgive us, and if we humble ourselves and ask, He will show us all things eventually. Someday, we are promised to be His family and know as we are known. It couldn't get better than that, IMO.
 
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If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!


First off, logic demands a God does exist. When you look at a building, how do you know it had a builder? You can't see the builder, so therefore he does not exist right? Obviously, the building is common sense reasoning that there was a builder. Anyone who thinks the building was by chance, would be lacking in the thought process...


So, if God is real, would He be good or evil? Obviously, if He gave you life, He would have to be good, which is in line with what the bible says...

So heres a tuff question, if God is good, should he punish evil? (like murderers, rapist, those you harm children, theives, ect..)

While it may seem that God's goodness will cause Him to overlook your sins, the opposite is actually true. Perhaps the following illustration will add some clarity: Imagine you're standing before a judge, guilty of multiple crimes. The judge is about to pass sentence when he asks, "Do you have anything to say for yourself?" You stand up, look the judge in the eye and say, "Yes Your Honor, I believe that you're a good man... and because you're good, you will let me go." The judge will probably say something like, "Well, you're right about one thing... I am a good man. And it's because I'm good that I'm going to see that you are punished for your crimes."

The very thing you are counting on to save you on the Day of Judgment -- namely God's goodness -- is going to be the very thing that will see to it that justice is done. Because God is so good He will make sure that every murderer, rapist and thief receives justice... but He won't stop there. He will also make sure every liar, blasphemer, and adulterer is punished. While this is something that is extremely tragic and far from God's ultimate desire for any person, the Bible is clear that the place of punishment for those who do not turn from their sins is Hell.

If you want to see how well you'll do at judgement, take this 1 minute test.

www.needgod.com

As far as the bible being true, theres more than enough evidence for those who read it. If you want a short list, here's some list of prophecy found in it.

http://www.harpazo.net/101/List.html

And if you have more questions, check this out...

http://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/browse.shtml

Dan~~~>hopes you take the time to look, before your death comes
 
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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?

When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense. A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time. A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?

We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!


Why??
Greetings
I wasn't looking when he found me, I knew in my heart That my Creator was telling me to come to him, he had made the way, my heart Cried out for Jesus to save me from my wicked way of life and cleanse me from my sins.

I know he for gave me, I've been learning about God for over 25yrs. I can say I can talk to him and when I'm still and all distraction of life are gone , he speaks and show things into my mind , he has always been my teacher in his things, I haven't always been a very good student, ha ha.

But getting to know him starts with coming to Jesus, It will take the rest of my life to learn how to walk were I please him and I keep this personal relationship with him. I have him more then I do friends or other people in my life, his presence is with me each day and regardless if I'm thought to be crazy, I know him and I love hm.

Your heart will reveal to you he is real, I'm placing a seed into yours and others hearts for Jesus to grow in you, Hope you can know how it feels to know him.

Then you'd feel the same way, seek him because he brought you to a Christian website to get his response to your questions, but what you do with that knowledge given to you, will be your choice.

Peace be with you in Jesus Name
Rev Malone
 
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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?

I don't. I believe the Bible.

[quotge]When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense.[/quote]

Like what?

A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.

I must have missed that part. Would you mind telling me where the Bible tells us to kill anyone?

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?

There is a tremendous amount of evidence for the existance of God. Creation, for example.

I believe that Christianity is the religion set down by God because God has told us that it is the religion set down by God.

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?

What pain and suffering has Christianity caused?

We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?

How old does the Bible state the Earth to be? Where in the Bible does it say this?

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.

Why don't you explain it to us?

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!

Then how do you explain the fact that many religions that don't believe in Hell are going strong?
 
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Arafat--

No offense but the information you have been getting is totally misguided. The Bible is the most true book in the world. If one were to chose a religious book or any book intellectually, it would be the Bible. Its the living Word of God and has nothing to do with mens fallen ideas or notions.

Its the only book where hundreds of prophesies have come true and there will be more to come as far as being fullfilled. No human can even remotely predict the future and it comes true. The chance of just 45 prophesies coming true in detail are one in a billion.

If you really want to know who God is and is serious about it, I strongly suggest that you read objective facts about the Bible. Like Examine the Evidence by Muncaster, The Case for A Creator, A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. (Both these authors were athiest). They did the research for us concerning the facts. But I researched it myself also - and this material is true.

Its the most true book in the world and everyone has copied things from the Bible. Just the opposite of what your claiming.

Men fight God because of their pride and think they have better control over their lifes. But since He created us - and is infinite and all knowing He knows us better than we do ourselves. Many people don't take the time out to do their own research and homework because they are afraid that they will be wrong and don't want to accept the facts.

I'm a scientist - and true science is in harmony with the Bible. False science isn't - but is in fact scientifically impossible.
 
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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?

When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense. A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time. A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?
He has taken away my sinful lifestyle and depression and hatred and given me Hope and a new life and a clean conscience. That is a big evidence. Without Him, I had suicidal tendencies. Now I love life and seek righteousness. I used to be a criminal, He changed me on the inside. that is a great proof.

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?
yes, many churches claim to be doing God a favor, many of those churches and churchgoers are liars. They are not on the side of Christ, they misrepresent Him. They will be held to account, we can't let the evil ones take away from our personal relationship with our Creator though.

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.
you seem very young to think you know everything. No offense. God does answer prayers though. He can turn bad to good and give hope to the hopeless. Where else is the answer to sin and death? just die and that's it? We can die any day, you can be dead tomorrow, you think there is no point to living? Jesus gives us hope, I urge to read Him in New Testament with a seeking Truth heart.

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!


Why??
I do not believe God is going to torture people for billions of years in fires. That is a misunderstanding of bible. The punishment for sin is death, not billions of years of torture. God gives Hope and New Life with Jesus, that is a great offering. He also gives power to those who are 100% committed, power to love and seek what is right and good, not what is wrong.

The New Testament of the bible also gives many warnings about watching out for bad church leaders. The church leaders in Jesus' times also were evil, they led Him to be killed. Real christians are very careful, I also urge you to not just think all church leaders are really christian. There is more to it than that, you can find many warnings in the New Testament.
 
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There was a time when Jesus was giving a teaching about having to eat his flesh and drink his blood that most everyone found to be ridiculous, disturbing, offensive, and even downright blasphemous.

Most people just turned away and left him.

So when Jesus turned to Peter and the friends closest to him and asked if they were going to leave too, Peter replied by asking, "Where would we go?"


Certainly, there is a lot of the Christian teaching that is befuddling, and mind-boggling and difficult.

But in comparison to Jesus, people like you, Arafat, have nothing to offer us at all.

Absolutely nothing.




That is why.
 
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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?

When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense. A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time. A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?

We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!


Why??

Well, it seems as if you are the one who is suffering from much disinformation but, in answer to your question, I believe because God has given me faith, and for that, I praise Him.

God bless
 
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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?

When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense. A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time. A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?

We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!


Why??

Wow...did you not get a good night's sleep? Your questions are more like angry statements...what's really bugging you?
 
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Erm just a few things first . . .

I must have missed that part. Would you mind telling me where the Bible tells us to kill anyone?

Deuteronomy 13:7-11, “if your son or daughter” or “your most intimate friend” even so much as suggests worshipping other Gods, “You must kill him, your hand must strike the first blow in putting him to death. You must stone him.”

Isn't it a bit arrogant to say all the people, scientists, statemen and founding fathers of our country, are all stupid and only you at 17 know what is true?? It's okay, I was the same at your age, but if you ever really study or have an encounter with God and His Spirit of truth, I hope you will respond positivly towards what is true and NEVER accept lies. The Bible says to prove all things, yet you assume it full of the evil that men commit while trying to usurp the power of God and His words of truth. ANYTHING can be corrupted by man just so that men can wield power over each other. It is Jesus who said He came to set men free of the sin nature and death by giving us the truth.

Well to start with the founding members of your naion were secular, with secular policy. My post was not an arrogant one, there is no evidence that God exists so I don't see why I should pull any punches while religion is responsible for so much misery. Now the reason that I think that what I believe in is true is because of common sense, like I come to the conclusion that 2+2=4.

Check out the internet, pal, Noah's Ark is real, and archeology and science have been proving the Bible correct for the last 100 years of man's so-called big knowledge. Just look at creation. Stand in the middle of the awesome intelligent design and deny a Creator.
It is only recently that we could say what the Bible says, "All things we see are made of the unseen", and indeed our reality is made up of more of the unseen than the seen. Of course it doesn't count when the Bible speaks of the "circle of the earth" over 2500 years ago.

The original books from the Bible were written by a semitic tribe thousands of years ago . . . to me it's just one of many ideas from that time of people trying to make sense of the world.

Einstein and his theory of relativity who was a believer in God?

You are mistaken. Einstein said:

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

And:

I am a deeply religious nonbeliever. This is a somewhat new kind of believer.


What have you or I done today to relieve those refuges in Darfur? Why do we have ease and comfort while our neighbor goes starving to death overnight. Why don't you do as Jesus said or asked, "Did you feed me when I was hungry", "Did you clothe me when I was naked", "Did you give me shelter even when I was a stranger"? "Did you vist and give me fellowship and friendship when I was sick?" SO WHAT is the evil in that message Jesus gave us as our job to look after in this life we are responsible for? He has made us our brothers keeper yet we would rather party and have a good time without the bother of looking after our neighbors and then turn about and falsely accuse God of our own neglect and blind eye to suffering in the world..
Ya know, God's laws are only two now with the New Covenant - Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength, which is only fitting, and to love your neighbor as you love yourself, and that is the basic love we all give in nurturing and feeding our bodies to care for them - not a self-esteem issue.. I'm sure someone starving would rather feed their body long before their ego.
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I'm all for the love thy neighbour thing. . . but you make it sound like we need religion to make the world better . . . which to me is just nonsense. I think we have a limited time on earth and we should make the most of it, however this does not require religion.

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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation? Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole? This is a really generalised statement, if you quest is for truth then can you address which bits you consider to be exaggerated and untrue?

When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense. A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time. A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally . . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God. WHere is the proof that the bible is false. Much of what was in the past disproved by science, is now being relooked at and validated by new techniques of science. The order of creation for example has been recently validated by a combination of geneologists, archeologists, zoologists etc. Many of the things written in the bible, a thousand years ago were considered unbelievable, such as info on solar systems and the like and now we have the technology are being proved as factually correct, how so? Noah ark and many other bible relics have been found, the wall of Jericho has been confirmed to have fallen suddenly and only the gates where Rahab lived excaping devastation. There are countless examples. Perhaps if you would like to explore them one by one, I'm sure you would get the evidence you need. That said, if you do not want to believe, whatever anyone say will not change your mind.

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . . you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?Can you prove to us that God doesn't exist? Your thesis is based on dare I say your limited experience of life, to say categorically something does not exist is like early man saying electric did not exist. Electricity has always been, yet was only discovered and therefore validated when people started looking for it and discovered ways to harness and apply it. The bible says if you seek me you will find me if you seek me with all your heart. I know I was like you once and my serach for truth led me to God

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?Religion stinks, I am not religious and neither was Jesus, it's not a case of keeping it going, it's not a political party we are talking about, but a realtionship with and eternal God. Christianity will keep going until Christ returns

We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?THe bible does not state the age of the world and you will find in christian circles there is disagreement about whether creation was a literal 7 days etc. This is irrelevant, fossils for example under the right conditions can be created in months and yet science originally thought this took much much longer. So a person looking at a fossil may say wow this is thousands of years old when in fact it was less than a year old. I believe the bible for one reason alone, because I believe it is inspired by God
You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.I was the biggest sceptic alive and yet God reached me. It is hard for me to convey how this works rather like me proving to you that I have a husband who i love. I cannot prove that feeling and over the internet I cannot prove to you my husband is real either. However if you met him yourself you would agree he exists, right? Same with God except millions more have met him and you cannot believe that all are being brainwashed into believing an untruth and having a relationship with an imaginary God.

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . . is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!As someone has already said, it is not because of hel religion exists, many religions do not acknowledge hell. Christianity is not supposed to be a religion however but a relationship


Why??
 
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Erm just a few things first . . .



Deuteronomy 13:7-11, “if your son or daughter” or “your most intimate friend” even so much as suggests worshipping other Gods, “You must kill him, your hand must strike the first blow in putting him to death. You must stone him.”

The problem is that this is written to Old Covenant Jews for the protection and preservation of Israel.

That specific circumstance for which God commanded this is past and gone. It's over.

Where are Christians ever told to kill anyone?

Well to start with the founding members of your naion were secular, with secular policy.

I take it you've never read the writings of the Founding Fathers.
 
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Why do you believe totally unfounded, ridiculous disinformation?


Why do they believe in a 2,000 year old contradictory book full of atrocities and hyperbole?
Because it's given by God to tell us about himself. I don't believe in God because of the bible, I read the bible because I believe in God.

When so much of the said book has been proven (both by common sense and science) to be just nonsense.
Science and history prove some of it to not be historically accurate, but it's not meant to be. It's job isn't to tell us historical facts but to enable our encounter with God, and science can't prove that to be nonsence.


A book that "borrows" ideas (i.e. resurrection) from just other legends from the middle east region aroud that time.
Some parts of the bible certainly borrow ideas from other ancient literature (eg the flood story) but there is nothing wrong with that - truth is truth whereever it is found. The idea that the resurrection story is similarly borrowed doesn't hold much water though.


A book that requiers you take Noah's ark literally
The bible does not require you to take Noah's ark literally.

. . . to kill those who even suggest as to worshipping another God.
Clearly very few Christians take this literally (fortunately).

Even though there is no evidence that proves God exists whatsoever . . .
What sort of evidence would you accept?

you believe it, and yet what makes you think that it's the right religion set down by God?
Because my experience of God tells me I'm heading in at least roughly the direction he would have me go.

With all the pain and suffering religion has caused, why do you keep it going?
Because of all the good it does, and the far greater good it is capable of if we get it right instead of messing it up.

We know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than it states in the Bible . . . why believe the Bible?
Because the bible's job isn't to tell me how old the earth is. It's job is to tell me about God, creation, people, and how they interrelate. To use it as a history book is to misuse it.

You could say you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ . . . but anyone with just a passive knowledge of psychology would know the way in which the mind may be simmulated.
So?

If it wern't because of Hell, religion would be gone . . .
Demonstrably untrue since religions exist that have no concept of afterlife either way.

is that why you believe? Because of Hell?!
I don't think I know a single Christian who believes because of hell. Most believe because they have grown to understand it (Christianity) to be true, here and now.
 
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So far I've witnessed some powerful testimonies to the Saving Grace of the Lord Jesus :D

It makes my heart glad that God is so kind to you, in spite of your railings :)

Romans 2:4
Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
 
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