Why would anyone want to come to this planet

[RileyG]

Could it be that Christianity has it exactly backwards?

Mightn’t it be that we labor for God for an eon (or three) then get the chance to go on holiday to Earth: Land of Free-will!

Play around with that notion for a while, there are many interesting rabbit holes to explore.

Interesting fact. Mormons believe in a prelife before coming to earth where are memories are wiped out. But they are unorthodox and are not considered Christian according to CF standards.

 

[Pommer]

Interesting fact. Mormons believe in a prelife before coming to earth where are memories are wiped out. But they are unorthodox and are not considered Christian according to CF standards.

Well, see here’s another thing that I amuse myself with, (and is probably totally wrong), it’s been said that our DNA has a lot of “junk” in it, sections that never code an RNA strand for this or that protein or enzyme component…and knowing that nature (the E word), would likely cull any superfluous genes rather than lugging it around for no reason, within a few generations.
It could be a couple of things….sections that need to be there to fold up the ginormous molecule into the ropey configuration?

Or it could be “genetic-memory”, that humans can’t really access anymore since we have brains that tend to favor “reason” over vague shadows of “memories” that would enable us to “remember” experiences of our ancestors (without needing to get into the metaphysical aspects, of that that usually pop-up, (given our present “location”)).
They used to call it “instinct”: how do birds know to build their nest? They “remember” their parents’ experiences through their memory-storage unit [DNA].

This is why rationality is disfavored in (the E word), why give the animal “choices” in how things get done…nothing “good” can come from that.

People can be both horrible In their choices and horrible in their assessment of their own choices and still be “happy”.

 

[Pommer]

Yes. Really.

1st: not everybody here believes a god exists
2nd: I didn't ask or will to come here.

So, if there is a god and if that god has something to do with me being here, then he did that something without my consent.

My (limited) understanding is that when I die all of this (universe) “goes away”.
Oblivion.
Nirvana?
Heaven?

 

[Pommer]

Nobody

Shades of Odysseus?

 

[Aaron112]

Really?

Are you saying God sends billions of us here against our will

Does a piece of clay, made into a pot, have a choice what it is made from or what is made into, or what it is to be used for ?

No.

 

[Pommer]

Does a piece of clay, made into a pot, have a choice what it is made from or what is made into, or what it is to be used for ?

No.

Clay doesn’t have have agency.

 

[Robban]

Sorry if this should be posted elsewhere

But why would anyone want/agree to come here knowing that they are going to suffer and die and then run the risk of dying again/hell because of "sin"

Why do some want to land on the moon or Mars even?

At least here the table is laid.

 

[Robban]

Why do some want to land on the moon or Mars even?

At least here the table is laid.

Ate cod this evening, beat that if you can.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Ate cod this evening, beat that if you can.

My spouse made a spaghetti dish with basil fresh from the garden along with zucchini and grated cheese. (Herbs fresh from the garden can make anything superb.)

 

[nightmares]

Ate cod this evening, beat that if you can.

Yeah

Problem is you have to do it over and over and over again for decades

What are we even living for

 

[Robban]

Yeah

Problem is you have to do it over and over and over again for decades

What are we even living for

In everything you do...........

eating, sleeping, buisness and even pleasure activities can be a part of the way you connect to God.

All it takes is the right intentions, if so,

"Serve God with joy"
Applies to all times and every situation.

Joy is central to connecting to God.

In answer to your question,
Not that God loves you but because you are needed.

 

[nightmares]

In everything you do...........

eating, sleeping, buisness and even pleasure activities can be a part of the way you connect to God.

All it takes is the right intentions, if so,

"Serve God with joy"
Applies to all times and every situation.

Joy is central to connecting to God.

In answer to your question,
Not that God loves you but because you are needed.

No. It's utter rubbish and there is no joy. God or no God

 

[Robban]

No. It's utter rubbish and there is no joy. God or no God

Joy, not as in laugh and be merry but joy as in willingness.

I cannot do what you can do,
you cannot do what I can do.

Therefore are we all needed.

 

[nightmares]

Joy, not as in laugh and be merry but joy as in willingness.

I cannot do what you can do,
you cannot do what I can do.

Therefore are we all needed.

Well obviously we are not needed. Because if we were we wouldn't be posting on here

 

[Robban]

Well obviously we are not needed. Because if we were we wouldn't be posting on here

You are free to experiment.

Sit down on a chair fold your arms, and wait to die.

 

[nightmares]

Yeah Im just waiting for my parents to die then I'll join them

It's not right for parents to bury their child

 

[GodLovesCats]

Sorry if this should be posted elsewhere

But why would anyone want/agree to come here knowing that they are going to suffer and die and then run the risk of dying again/hell because of "sin"

What in the world are you talking about? You know we are all born on Earth, so the only people who "come" to it are astronauts.

 

[nightmares]

What in the world are you talking about? You know we are all born on Earth, so the only people who "come" to it are astronauts.

Wrong

We exist before we come here

 

[Tinker Grey]

Wrong

We exist before we come here

Prove it

 

[nightmares]

Prove it to your satisfaction you mean

I doubt thats possible