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First, in science, random mutation is in respect to need. In other words the mutation is in no way controlled by the need of the organism. What they get is what they get.As others agree mutation are not all the random but often a cell (bacteria) allowing mutations occur at hot spots in order to find a solution. (using trial and error just like an engineer would) While ToE has no goal while living cells do. Evolution is out of touch with life.
I totally agree, I am a case in point. However, Creationists are just believers that believe God created the universe. So that is why I asked.
Depends, fundamentalist creationists have issues with evolution.
1) find an energy sourceFirst, in science, random mutation is in respect to need. In other words the mutation is in no way controlled by the need of the organism. What they get is what they get.
Second "While ToE has no goal while living cells do." What on earth is the goal of a living cell?
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Even if evolution was wrong what would make you think that creationism or ID would ever be taken seriously by the brains who run this world?1) find an energy source
2) convert that energy into work
3) build it parts
4) assemble those parts
5) pass this knowledge to the next generation.
Shapiro (doesn't support ID) has published a few papers about how living cells can "engineer" genetic changes according to the environment. The idea of mutation being totally random isn't holding up in the last few years.
Here's is a video you may find interesting. Physiology and the revolution in Evolutionary Biology | Voices From Oxford
That's OK then.As long as "some guys" believe their brain isn't intelligent designed they will never be able take any creationism or ID seriously.
SmidleeFirst, in science, random mutation is in respect to need. In other words the mutation is in no way controlled by the need of the organism. What they get is what they get.
Second "While ToE has no goal while living cells do." What on earth is the goal of a living cell?
To find an energy source (food) I can see, organisms will make efforts to do this. The rest is just what happens and I doubt that it is the goal of the organism.1) find an energy source 2) convert that energy into work 3) build it parts 4) assemble those parts 5) pass this knowledge to the next generation.
I haven't read the papers but I have seen reference to this in simple cellular organisms.Shapiro (doesn't support ID) has published a few papers about how living cells can "engineer" genetic changes according to the environment.
This has been know for quite a while. Some locations in the genome are more susceptible to mutation than others. Don't have cites on this but I have seen it discussed often by biologist and geneticists.The idea of mutation being totally random isn't holding up in the last few years.
Thanks, I usually don't watch long videos as I prefer to read the material. I will try to watch it though.Here's is a video you may find interesting. http://www.voicesfromoxford.org/vide...ry-biology/184
Your argument presupposes that gravity is the only force operating in the galaxy. Your argument also presumes that confirmations make your theory stronger. In reality, confirmations are at best neutral to the theory in question.We observe that the stars in the center of our galaxy orbit extremely quickly around a single point. Using those orbits, we can calculate the amount of mass at that central point. It happens to be around 4 million solar masses, or 4 million times more massive that our own Sun. That point isn't producing any light. It's black.
Seems to me that all of the evidence is consistent with a black hole.
UCLA GCG data for stars around the Supermassive Black Hole at the Center of the Milky Way
Your supposed point relies on too many assumptions to be valid. First of all, you assume that I hear footsteps in my house. I never do. Second, you assume that I don't go to the hospital every time I have a headache because I parsimoniously assume that aneurysms are rare. If I really thought I was having an aneurysm, I would take additional vitamin C not go to the hospital. The same hospital system that I have access to is the one that accidentally amputated both guys legs rather than just the one when he was diabetic. No thanks -- the risk is great and the alleged benefit is minimal.Your evasiveness is transparent. I don't think you should go to the hospital with every headache for the same reason you don't; aneurysm are rare. Now please provide a direct answer rather than trying to weasel around the point. Why do you assume that you headache is just a headache and not an impending aneurysm? Why, if you happen to be in your house, do you assume that the footsteps you hear are your wife's and not an intruder's? Why do you assume that there is no invisible truck coming at you? For several posts you have transparently avoided giving direct answers to the straightforward questions I have posed. Your unwillingness to directly answer these questions indicates that you know I'm right: you are instinctively using parsimony all the time.
Your argument presupposes that gravity is the only force operating in the galaxy. Your argument also presumes that confirmations make your theory stronger. In reality, confirmations are at best neutral to the theory in question.
Shapiro (doesn't support ID) has published a few papers about how living cells can "engineer" genetic changes according to the environment. The idea of mutation being totally random isn't holding up in the last few years.
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