Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath? (2)

Cliff2 said:

So far we have a number of 7th day Sabbath keepers who all agree that Salvation is not earnt by keeping of a day of the week.

It is a gift from God.

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[/FONT]"Let no one therefore judge you in eating, or in drinking, or with respect to a feast day or a new moon or a Sabbath day,"

pneumatikos said:

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[/FONT]"Let no one therefore judge you in eating, or in drinking, or with respect to a feast day or a new moon or a Sabbath day,"

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Perhaps you may like to show why you think this text does away with the 7th day Sabbath.

Cliff2 said:

Perhaps you may like to show why you think this text does away with the 7th day Sabbath.

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It means that the truth is in christ. Why place yourself under the law? do you follow the hair and diet restrictions of the law as well, or do you simply choose what you prefer?

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[/FONT]"Let no one therefore judge you in eating, or in drinking, or with respect to a feast day or a new moon or a Sabbath day,"

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yes~

And without any contradiction,...
Let us hold fast To Jesus (who can say Amen to Col. 2:16) so that we won't stand in judgment of others as well, as you have always known, lest we be a cast away from the Faith of Jesus that Saves us all! So now we can be Working With God, in Christ, upon our own heart-land through Sanctification letting Patience have her perfect work through us!

In His Love,
connie

yes you folow the hair and diet restrictions? I think the men need some sort of braids, or a special haircut. Martin Luther wrote about the whole idea. He said if you are keeping some of the law, you keep all of it. either it is fulfilled in Christ and we are free in him, or we are under the law. it is all or nothing.

pneumatikos said:

yes you folow the hair and diet restrictions? I think the men need some sort of braids, or a special haircut. Martin Luther wrote about the whole idea. He said if you are keeping some of the law, you keep all of it. either it is fulfilled in Christ and we are free in him, or we are under the law. it is all or nothing.

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So should we lie, steal , profane God's name , comit adultry, Murder??

The moral law says nothing about hair or diet. Martin Luther still believed in the vality of the Ten Commandments.


Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

http://www.jewfaq.org/shabbat.htm

It says:
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We are commanded to remember Shabbat; but remembering means much more than merely not forgetting to observe Shabbat. It also means to remember the significance of Shabbat, both as a commemoration of creation and as a commemoration of our freedom from slavery in Egypt.
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~yes~ even our freedom from slavery in Egypt.

Very decent indeed~

http://www.answers.com/topic/sabbath

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Sab·bath (săb'əth)
n.
1. The seventh day of the week, Saturday, observed as the day of rest and worship by the Jews and some Christian sects.

2. The first day of the week, Sunday, observed as the day of rest and worship by most Christians.

Decent as well!

Jesus Is Real said:

http://www.answers.com/topic/sabbath

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Sab·bath (săb'əth)
n.
1. The seventh day of the week, Saturday, observed as the day of rest and worship by the Jews and some Christian sects.

2. The first day of the week, Sunday, observed as the day of rest and worship by most Christians.

Decent as well!

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1st day of the week, Sunday

1. Never set aside by God as a Holy day

2. Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
3. Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

ThreeAM said:

1st day of the week, Sunday

1. Never set aside by God as a Holy day

2. Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
3. Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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It doesn't matter anymore.
Who was it about.........those who came to Hear Jesus on the Sabbath Day......if they didn't take The Gospel of Christ and His Words was that man still being Holy unto God? Which was his reasonable service?

no~

Jesus said what Scripture was all about: HIMSELF
And if others worship God on Tuesday.....I have no accusations to give out. We are called into Liberty and Freedom to Walk in Love and let The Word Read us and be our own mirror - taking out the spots and blemishes and wrinkles out of us. This is the Way.....it is good for all of us to Follow The Shepherd.

ThreeAM said:

So should we lie, steal , profane God's name , comit adultry, Murder??

The moral law says nothing about hair or diet. Martin Luther still believed in the vality of the Ten Commandments.


Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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Just keep believing in Christ,....as you have always done - who is your First Love!!!

Jesus Is Real said:

Just keep believing in Christ,....as you have always done - who is your First Love!!!

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ThreeAM said:

So should we lie, steal , profane God's name , comit adultry, Murder??

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pne,.......never said anything about these things.

It is Christ in us Who is the Hope of Glory.
See it all goes back to Jesus Christ and what He did on the Cross in Forgiving Us.

Tis the Season~

Jesus Is Real said:

pne,.......never said anything about these things.

It is Christ in us Who is the Hope of Glory.
See it all goes back to Jesus Christ and what He did on the Cross in Forgiving Us.

Tis the Season~

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pneumatikos said:

yes you folow the hair and diet restrictions? I think the men need some sort of braids, or a special haircut. Martin Luther wrote about the whole idea. He said if you are keeping some of the law, you keep all of it. either it is fulfilled in Christ and we are free in him, or we are under the law. it is all or nothing.

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Read his post again.

He implies if we observe the sabbath of the moral law we should wear braids etc. However I doubt He thinks that Christians should wear braids because they also do not wish to murder, lie steal, profane God's name etc.

On the first day of every week.......(First Corinthians 16:2). It was on the first day of the week that Christ arose and so the first day, Sunday, came to be designated as the Lord's Day. On that day the early Christians gathered to worship (Acts 20:7; Revelation 1:10) as do we, and in doing so we celebrate Christ's resurrection. Easter (The Resurrection) is celebrated every Sunday. The meaning of the resurrection must be rediscovered by each believing Christians till our Lord returns to earth again. The first question is, What is Easter all about? and the second, What practical meaning does it have for the plain Christian of today? "Jesus is not here; he has risen" (Matthew 28:6), Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the first fruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him (1 Corinthians 15:20-23).

What practical significance does Easter have for us? "Much in every way!" (Romans 3:2). Jesus "through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead" (Romans 1:4). Jesus "was raised to life for our justification" (Romans 4:25). That we are not obligated to live in bondage to days and times and seasons (Colossians 2:16-17; Romans 14:4-10; 2 Corinthians 3:5-18) since Christ arose from the dead on the first day, Christians all over have the opportunity to set the first day as the Christian's voluntary Sabbath day. This is interesting because "The day of Pentecost" fell on the first day of the week which the Holy Spirit came in fulfillment of Christ's promise. This happened on the first day, which is Sunday, seven (7) weeks after Jesus resurrection. (See Lev. 23:16, 50 days after the Passover Ceremonies, the day after the 7th Sabbath which is 7 weeks). The primary work of Christ in redemption is to justify, sanctify and glorify. Justify means to declare righteous before God, sanctify means to make holy, and glorify means in effect to remake the entire personality after the image of Christ.

A.W. Tozer: On the first day light had its birth; on the first day Christ arose; on the first day the Holy Spirit descended. Though there is much other truth to support this, for a true follower of Christ no stronger argument is needed. On the first day he will love to remember Christ's triumph; and each first day will be to him a reminder that Christ rose from depths of earth.

I am thankful that I responded to the Holy Spirit's conviction and lead me to my escape of death. "The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children." (Romans 8:16). "Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart" (1 John 5:10). The Holy Spirit opened my heart and mind so that I can turn to Christ. In my heart, I was stirred by the Holy Spirit and knew that God has spoken to me to repent.

Anyway.. Happy EASTER !!!

On the first day of every week.......(First Corinthians 16:2). It was on the first day of the week that Christ arose and so the first day, Sunday, came to be designated as the Lord's Day. (JimfromOhio)

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That is your opinion and I can take that but to say it is Biblical is another thing.

No where in the Bible can your statement be shown to be correct.

Mark 2:28 "Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath"

Cliff2 said:

That is your opinion and I can take that but to say it is Biblical is another thing.

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That's my point in my previous posts. You have your conscience to follow and I have mine. We both have God's grace to follow our own Sabbath.

BrightCandle said:

Does God's grace trump His commands? I don't think so!

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John 1:17
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Romans 5:20
The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more.

Galatians 3:18
For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.

Galatians 5:4
You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.