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Eph 2:20
built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets
luther, calvin, etc. Are NOT Apostles!
1 Cor 12:27
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
The OP seems antagonistic and frankly a flat out attack on those who are not Catholic, yet it seems ok with CF? Hmmm, if I posted a thread a like thread about the RCC I am fairly sure it would be seen as flaming.
So, are you saying that those of us who are not Roman Catholic are not saved?What was reformed? The church?
No reformation here in reality new churches were started!
The new churches are false churches with false doctrines be cause the Bible says so!
Jesus Christ and the Bible say
Matt 16:18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. Jesus Christ is the one who builds the church, not luther, calvin or Henry the eighth!
One church: I will build my church, singular!
There's one church cos it's the kingdom of God, and there is one king and one kingdom!
The church singular is the body of Christ, Christ has only one body!
1 Cor 12:27
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
Eph 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism
The new testament days 31 times "the faith" one faith we all have to believe! As in "I have kept the faith"
2 Tim 4:7
And "thee faith" is the faith of the apostles, this promise made to the apostles!
John 14:26
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you
Matt 28 go into the whole world, teaching them...
Lk 10:16 he who hears you (the apostles) hears me!
The church is built on the apostles!
Eph 2:20
built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets
luther, calvin, etc. Are NOT Apostles!
If you believe the Bible alone, where does the Bible say to have a reformation? Or camp meeting, or Sunday school, or a revival, or a revival in a tent?
[for me anyway] it is just as the Holy Spirit of Truth speaking through the Apostle Paul made it plain and clear at that time, yet it of course is meant for all times, even now after the reformation, namely in (1 Corinthians 1:12-13) along with (1 Corinthians 3:3-4): for when we apply it (for example) to now in our present time we easily behold the wrongness of its continuation.
"Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" (1 Corinthians 1:12-13)
By merely replacing names to our present time we see the same matter:
>>Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Catholic; and I of Prodestant; and I of Orthodox; and I of This or That. Is Christ divided? was Catholic crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Protestant?<<
And again:
"For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?" (1 Corinthians 3:3-4)
Again replacing:
>>For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Catholic; and another, I am of Protestant; are ye not carnal?<<
The Holy Spirit of Truth making it abundantly clear that Christ is not supposed to be divided, yet men still insist on their own will over the Lord's.
So, are you saying that those of us who are not Roman Catholic are not saved?
So if Jesus was going to found His church on Peter, He failed miserably.
That is exactly what the OP is saying. Even further more the OP is implying we are heretics and false.
It would seem the loving soft hand of eccumenticalism is turning to a fist. I would like to say I did not see this coming but fact is there are those of us who have seen this agenda brewing for years now.
No, he DID found his Church on Peter, with all Peter's flaws.
And the Church flourished despite Peter and all of his flaws, and Paul and his, and all of since.
Well, that's would be foolish. You may be in error about things, but you don't realize it, and that doesn't make you bad people. It certainly doesn't make you heretics.
That's what I assumed, but I wanted him to come out and say it.That is exactly what the OP is saying. Even further more the OP is implying we are heretics and false.
It would seem the loving soft hand of eccumenticalism is turning to a fist. I would like to say I did not see this coming but fact is there are those of us who have seen this agenda brewing for years now.
That's what I assumed, but I wanted him to come out and say it.
He is only one person. I can't believe that the majority of Catholics believe this about us? If they do, then it is something new that is being emphasized. I had many Roman Catholic friends in college that were a part of a Bible study with us Protestants. We all got along well together because we all believed in Jesus as our Lord and Savior. That is what we emphasized. While there were differences, we never let that get in the way.
Exactly. I don't think that labels matter either. All that matters is Christ.My experience is that the Catholics I meet generally embrace me, and with love. Now, these are the people that are available to meet, of course, that is people that are friendly enough to meet in person. And they haven't treated me less good knowing I go to a different church.
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(I don't think my particular label of church means anything, men's labels, errors, but error is part of human life, part of being human. I see us all as one together in Christ, and labels, names we dare to add to churches, can't block or alter that even slightly.)
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