Why we aren't healed...

[vaisakhtvpm1]

Believe

 

[Norah63]

and agree. Speak it audibly. Tell your Heavenly Father that you agree with all He has said about you and wants for you. Ask for Him to increase your faith. Then build up your most holy faith, speaking faith filled words.
A question will always halt your faith, clear that question with what God has already told you in His Word. By His stripes we are healed.
Take every thought captive to the Word of God.
Be encouraged, we are loved with a mighty love.

 

[Tigger45]

Why we aren't healed...

The only answer I have for that question is because our God is sovereign and His ways are higher than our ways. But I can tell you with almost certainty is if He will heal by the compassion I feel flowing through my heart when I pray for someone. Sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not and I can't muster it up on my own. But when it's there the person I'm praying for has always been healed.

 

[ImaginaryDay]

Believe

Okay...

and agree. Speak it audibly. Tell your Heavenly Father that you agree with all He has said about you and wants for you. Ask for Him to increase your faith. Then build up your most holy faith, speaking faith filled words.
A question will always halt your faith, clear that question with what God has already told you in His Word. By His stripes we are healed.
Take every thought captive to the Word of God.
Be encouraged, we are loved with a mighty love.

Done and done... However, I still suffer from seizures, sleep problems, and vertigo. I have chronic back problems that may get worse with time as well as inherited knee joint and foot problems. I've shed tears, been prayed over, prayed for, prayed alone, been anointed with oil, been on my face, knees, prostrate on the floor, worshipped, praised, pleaded... yet all the conditions listed are still part of my life. Yes, by His stripes we are healed, but from what? I know the OP is from a while ago, but it brings up some valid points.

A very thoughtful friend shared in our small group about her eating disorder. This was quite serious and involved aspects of both anorexia and bulimia.
She had this for a long time and was involved in serious, front-line Christian ministry most of the time. (evangelistic groups and outreach)
All the time, she was praying and bible-reading and fellowshipping and doing the right things spiritually. She was also praying for the sorting out of her disorder. (admittedly more initially). She did manage to share her issue with one or two other members.
She also received 2 very accurate words of knowledge, but which were descriptive but not directive. Relationship with distant father had a lot to do with it.
She was finally 'sorted out' when she found her marriage partner and realised that her new social responsibility (for husband and family) meant she had to be physically healthy.
By effort of will she is now relatively 'normal'.
But the interesting thing is, all the time she was in Christian work she was spiritually very on-fire, and very sharp and effective. But her soul life (mind, body and emotions) was limping along and damaged. I'd never really thought that possible before. Surely if you had relationship with God and in his will, you'd be emotionally healed of compulsive disorders.

I quoted the other posts before the OP because I wonder if we are prone to believe what I bolded in red too easily - the idea that if we are in relationship with God, and in His will, we can be healed. I know the OP dealt with emotional healing, but I want to generalize a bit just for a moment (only a moment...).

Don't get me wrong. I firmly believe God can, and will, heal whomever He wants to whenever He wants. The bible does say of believers that "they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover". I know, also, that there are many still praying for my recovery from seizures. God can act at any time. But the reality is that there is sickness and disease in the world. We cannot escape it. God does not give us an 'out' just by virtue of being his children. We are not exempt from death and the breakdown of the human body.

"The years of our life are seventy,
or even by reason of strength eighty;
yet their span is but toil and trouble;
they are soon gone, and we fly away" (Ps. 90:10, ESV).

But it's obvious now and it chimes with my own experience and most of the people in my church. Spiritual sickness needs spiritual cure, loneliness needs community and shalom, physical healing needs a doctor and medicine, emotional damage needs the support of loving others.

I came to the conclusion a few years ago, after I was done railing at God for my lack of healing and being alone in my struggles that healing happens in community. The healing I'm alluding to is the type referred to in the OP - spiritual cure, community and shalom, doctors and medicine, the support of loving others. WE ARE the body of Christ. WE ARE the healing community that needs to be providing care and comfort for the hurting, broken, and downcast.

And this is how God intended it. It's all 'Christian'.

AMEN!

And it explains how lop-sided and unbalanced some 'earnest' Christians are and how they can say they are (and feel) healed when they manifestly aren't.

I agree. So many are 'confident' (i.e. a 'feeling') of a healing and a wholeness that simply will not sustain them. The body of Christ needs to be in the business of caring for one another, lifting up the brother or sister who cannot make it that day or week. Faith is necessary, to be sure. But to rely on faith for miraculous healing is to abdicate our responsibility as members of the body of Christ. Healing happens in community. I would encourage everyone to be a part of that process of healing. So many need you... I need you... We need each other...

 

[salamacum]

Thanks for that long item.

Reminds me of my original posting.... and how good it was!!
Still believe it, healing being a wider community thing.

Working with disabled, impaired adults I've had this confirmed. God likes community healing and I've seen these adults improve by removing their isolation.

Of course there is more.

People sometimes ask me why I am less than enthousiastic about some our long-term 'prophets' we've had in our church.

Well, because their actual walk of life (I am not talking of sin) does not manifest wholeness or integration.

In one case of a woman who is quite 'lionised', I would say DON'T follow her advice about trust and stepping out. You'll come a cropper, sell your house, move away, ... and still not have that trauma from your overbearing mother sorted.

 

[tobethebest]

Nothing like adding more E.W. Kenyon hogwash. It's people like you and beliefs like this that send scores of people separating themselves from the lives of those who confess such bondage. I would send WOF associates packing up their beliefs and their uneducated sarcasm and defeated beliefs and expose them openly if they came anywhere near my family. All that crap coming from Kenyon, Bosworth, Prince, Mumford, Basham, Hinn, Roberts, you know their names, need addressed as confusion and it needs buried in the deepest ocean. How dare you pass that crap along as doctrine which inevitably blames the believer. You must be new to a Christian lifestyle because that stuff went out years ago. Where were you when everyone was fleeing that nonsense?