Namaste francais,
thank you for the post.
français said:
months back, I was very anti Islam. Anyone here could tell you that.
Thankfully though, I promised a member here that I would do more research into Islam and be open minded about it.(The member was Oxy2Hydro)
if you actually have an interest in learning about another religion the only way to gain a valid cognition of it is to begin your study with an open mind.
I have, and have learned a lot. And, I have come to appreciate Islam so much.
it is a valid spiritual refuge.
And now as I view this forum, it brings me to tears, because people are so hateful here of Islam. Some people say the meanest things, and make the same accusations over and over.
i would suggest that the nature of this forum is rather contentious debate and discussion so it is natural to expect strong statements either pro or con.
of course your observation applies precisely to those same Muslims that engage in the same behavior.
many people are convinced of the correctness of their view regardless of what anyone else may have to say about thus continually posting the same arguments and critiques.
Every Muslim on this site has condemned 9/11 and terrorism against innocents.
how do you know this?
Many Muslims are pro Palestine, but so what! If you could not go to work without crossing checkpoints, and if your homes were being bulldozed, I am sure you would be pro palestine too.
i disagree. i think that the Palestinian Intefada is purely political and not actually in the interest of helping those that need it. not to be trite but this situation could be easily resolved if the surrounding Arab nations would simply give Palestine land.
and then people call Hamas terrorist, simply because they do not recognize Israel.
that's not why i call them terrorists. one of the many reasons that i would lable them terrorists is due to their stated lack of concern for killing children through homicide bombings.
Well you know, there are MANY Israeli's who are anti Palestine and want them dead. But we always look over this.
perhaps you overlook this but that doesn't seem to be a fair characterization of everyone else.
A good friend of mine named Eliad is lives in Israel. I told him how I did not like his government because they kill a lot of innocents. He said "So, that is good and I hope we kill more, because they are nasty people." And he had a smile on his face too because he was on webcam.
sounds like you need to change your circle of friends.
And sure, many Muslims support the fighters in Iraq. But hey, if 140,000 people invaded your country and pushed and shoved you, wouldn't you?!
no.
Muslims have EVERY right to want US troops out of Iraq, and they have every right to support the "terrorists" who are simply trying to get the troops to leave.
don't the Muslims that want the international troops there have any "rights" or say regarding this? why do the ones that kill the women and children get to decide these things for the rest of them?
Sure, many Muslims may support these things.. But how many support killing innocent Jews at a mall, or 9/11, or killing innocent people elsewhere? VERY FEW. And the Muslims on this forum have made it loud and clear many times.
firstly, the Muslims on this forum only speak for themselves and therefore cannot constitute anything resembling a unity of views within the Muslim world. secondly, you have no idea how many Muslims support killing Jews or killing Americans simply because they are Jewish or American and to claim this knowledge for yourself tends to undercut the point which you are attempting to make, in my estimation.
How often do Muslims worry about killing people for committing adultery?! Not often!
do more studying. i don't know what you studied but it certainly doesn't seem consonant with the political operation of many Muslim nations.
Instead, they worry about other issues, more contemporary issues that the average Joe and Joanne would worry about.
of course Muslims are humans and thus they have the same concerns as other humans.... no point in even saying this unless you were previously of the opinion that Muslims weren't humans and feel remorse at your prior view.
So please, just leave your anti Islam outside. If you sincerely have questions, then go to a MUSLIM FORUM and ask, but do not post the same things here over and over.
why not? this is the Non-Christian religions section of this forum and it is, consequently, the only place to ask Muslims questions on this forum as they hardly ever (i can't recall reading a single post in the Science subforums, for instance) visit anywhere else on the site.
I am just sick of these hate threads. I am sick of the close mindedness. I am sick of the anti Islamic brainwashing and the same threads over and over. Change is needed.
it seems to me that your chief complaint here is how you feel when you read a thread which is anti Islam. perhaps you shouldn't read those threads if they bother you? that you consider disagreement with Islam to be brainwashing is quite unusual to my way of thinking.
metta,
~v
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