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Why There Will Be No Third Temple!!!

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Temple sacrifices has ended... Yet it will happen again... Not by the will of god but by will of man who wish to serve god as in the days of old... So a temple will be erected ...the 3rd temple
No. The scriptures make it clear that Chris sacrifice was "once and from all".
Hebrews tries to make this clear.

Hebrews 9:11, 12
11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;
12 and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.


It says "once and for all"...so there will be no more sacrifices, and no need for a temple or altar

How about Hebrews 10:10:
By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Israel had not been cast off forever... God is still married to Israel ... Israel will rise again under the true messiah... But Israel will go through great tribulation before her messiah comes ... For they will cry out to god and god shall save them... And they will learn to say blessed is he who comes in the name of The Lord
I don't disagree with that...but that doesn't mean sacrifice and offerings will ever be given again, nor does it mean a temple will be built. Jesus is the fulfillment of the temple and every sacrifice in it...they are never going to appear again.
The temple in ezek is not a conditional temple... God will indeed built this temple and fulfill prophecy for god will send his son and he will built this temple... When Israel returns to The Lord and accept gods son as messiah...then this temple will be built and prophecy will be fulfilled concerning ezek temple...
That's not what Ezekiel 43:10-13 says. How do you reconcile that when Israel crucified the Lord???

Even more...have you compared Ezekiel 40 and Revelation 21??? It is New Jerusalem...except Revelation 21 says there will be no temple in it because God and the Lord Jesus are the temple:
Rev 21:22:
22 I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

So I ask again...what need is a temple?
 
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No. The scriptures make it clear that Chris sacrifice was "once and from all".
Hebrews tries to make this clear.

Hebrews 9:11, 12
11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;
12 and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.


It says "once and for all"...so there will be no more sacrifices, and no need for a temple or altar

How about Hebrews 10:10:
By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

I don't disagree with that...but that doesn't mean sacrifice and offerings will ever be given again, nor does it mean a temple will be built. Jesus is the fulfillment of the temple and every sacrifice in it...they are never going to appear again.

That's not what Ezekiel 43:10-13 says. How do you reconcile that when Israel crucified the Lord???

Even more...have you compared Ezekiel 40 and Revelation 21??? It is New Jerusalem...except Revelation 21 says there will be no temple in it because God and the Lord Jesus are the temple:
Rev 21:22:
22 I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

So I ask again...what need is a temple?

Why a temple in millennium? For memorial... A celebration... God is into this type of thing... Look at the Passover feast .. It was a celebration of the Passover of the angel of death... All the feast testify of god wanting people to remember what took place... The new temple will be no different

You assume temple sacrifices are for sin... Not in the new age of Christ ... They are a memorial in honor of the work of Christ .... Even the Passover is a memorial ... Of the fellowship man has with god...the breaking of bread is fellowship ... Do this in memory of me... Or something like that...
 
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there might be a third temple. they might spin it for the muslims who claim Solomon as one of their prophets, the muslims might start wanting a shared temple and agree to move the dome otr.
the muslims might accept obama as their Mahdi or saviour/god/whatever.
 
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there might be a third temple. they might spin it for the muslims who claim Solomon as one of their prophets, the muslims might start wanting a shared temple and agree to move the dome otr.
the muslims might accept obama as their Mahdi or saviour/god/whatever.
Surely you jest???
 
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there might be a third temple. they might spin it for the muslims who claim Solomon as one of their prophets, the muslims might start wanting a shared temple and agree to move the dome otr.
the muslims might accept obama as their Mahdi or saviour/god/whatever.



I think the dome of the rock is put down and Muslims are cast out of Israel .. Israel will be in control of all the land.. And a kingdom will form

Maybe a false prophet Elijah type comes to build temple or a false messiah comes to build it... Not sure... But some kind of war takes place for Jews to destroy the dome of rock and put out Muslims out of the country... So that they may rule the entire land and declare peace and safety saying the messianic age has come
 
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I have seen that a few times. However, t
hat temple is never to be built because Israel remained in darkness.

Israel will not remain in darkness forever... Israel will see the light... God will pour out his spirit again and they will understand ...by revelation as Paul received revelation....

And they will accept Jesus by faith and be saved.. And they will mourn as one for his firstborn son...and they shall rejoice again...and they shall never be removed...
 
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Surely you jest???

no, I think it could happen. Obama is a closet muslim, and he's not popular in the muslim world, but that might change, say if the Iranians say that he's the Mahdi. I think it possible that the muslims might remove the dome otr themselves, as a deal to have a shared temple.
Obama might come out and say that he's a muslim, say if there's a rapture, and all hell brakes loose. extraordinary things might happen in these last few years of the age.
 
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Israel will not remain in darkness forever... Israel will see the light... God will pour out his spirit again and they will understand ...by revelation as Paul received revelation....

And they will accept Jesus by faith and be saved.. And they will mourn as one for his firstborn son...and they shall rejoice again...and they shall never be removed...

I think the Jews of Israel converting to faith in Jesus is as likely as the Nazis converting to Judaism, after realising they are in peril from the invading Russians at the end of the war.. same sort of scenario, people don't convert on mass to faith because of national calamity..
where does it say that that's going to happen (all Israel will be saved?). why do they mourn if they have converted to faith.. then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn.. all the tribes.

the pouring out of the Holy Spirit in the latter days isn't an act of force, there is some choice of will involved, decisions made, it's not going to be a zapping and there you'r converted to faith.. dosnt work like that.
 
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I think the Jews of Israel converting to faith in Jesus is as likely as the Nazis converting to Judaism, after realising they are in peril from the invading Russians at the end of the war.. same sort of scenario, people don't convert on mass to faith because of national calamity..
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True... But Jews can see the light... How many Jews are now messianic?....Anything is possible with god... God knows how to change the heart and minds.... Paul is a good example of this... One of the most stubborn hardheaded Pharisee there was... God pick the worst one and made him into a lamb... Surly he can do this for a country....

Yes true all tribes of the earth mourn ..not just Israel
 
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True... But Jews can see the light... How many Jews are now messianic?....Anything is possible with god... God knows how to change the heart and minds.... Paul is a good example of this... One of the most stubborn hardheaded Pharisee there was... God pick the worst one and made him into a lamb... Surly he can do this for a country....

apparently its only 2% of Jews that are believers. Paul was zapped by God, that was a one-off, he had the basic character to make a good convert, an orthodox believer, but God isn't going to zap Israel, I doubt it anyway, unless it's some major miracle.. I just cant see it happening in the next few years, and that's all there is, the Jews remain very hard-core anti-Christian.

codesearcher put out a video, refuting the claims of an Israeli rabbi, stuff claiming that Jesus was a reincarnation of Esau. that's typical of the rabbi's in relation to Jesus, was the same when Jesus was on the earth the first time around, I don't think Jesus is returning so that they can crucify him again.
no messing about this time.
the angels are sent out and the game is up.
 
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apparently its only 2% of Jews that are believers. Paul was zapped by God, that was a one-off, he had the basic character to make a good convert, an orthodox believer, but God isn't going to zap Israel, I doubt it anyway, unless it's some major miracle.. I just cant see it happening in the next few years, and that's all there is, the Jews remain very hard-core anti-Christian.

codesearcher put out a video, refuting the claims of an Israeli rabbi, stuff claiming that Jesus was a reincarnation of Esau. that's typical of the rabbi's in relation to Jesus, was the same when Jesus was on the earth the first time around, I don't think Jesus is returning so that they can crucify him again.
no messing about this time.
the angels are sent out and the game is up.

You underestimate the power of god... Israel will convert and accept the gospel...the Jews will not desire to crucify their coming savior.. They will repent and mourn and proclaim him king of Israel...they will embrace him ...
 
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Why a temple in millennium? For memorial... A celebration... God is into this type of thing... Look at the Passover feast .. It was a celebration of the Passover of the angel of death... All the feast testify of god wanting people to remember what took place... The new temple will be no different

You assume temple sacrifices are for sin... Not in the new age of Christ ... They are a memorial in honor of the work of Christ .... Even the Passover is a memorial ... Of the fellowship man has with god...the breaking of bread is fellowship ... Do this in memory of me... Or something like that...
No.

The Passover Lamb looked to Jesus. When Jesus commanded the New Covenant He left us the sacrament of the Lord's Supper. That's what we do in remembrance. That's what we will do in remembrance. Not a temple.

Matthew 26:29
29 But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

Just as Jesus made it plain that He was the fulfillment of the temple He would have made it plain a temple would be built. He said not a word.

The temple is spiritual...it is built upon the apostles and prophets with Jesus as the Chief cornerstone.
 
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No.

The Passover Lamb looked to Jesus. When Jesus commanded the New Covenant He left us the sacrament of the Lord's Supper. That's what we do in remembrance. That's what we will do in remembrance. Not a temple.

Matthew 26:29
29 But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

Just as Jesus made it plain that He was the fulfillment of the temple He would have made it plain a temple would be built. He said not a word.

The temple is spiritual...it is built upon the apostles and prophets with Jesus as the Chief cornerstone.

God said a temple will be built in the millennium in Israel and even showed the plans or blueprints.... God word does not come back to him void!

Jesus has indeed created a spiritual temple... And when he returns ... He will build a literal temple just as god has laid out for him to do... Gods words are not spoken in vain....:)
 
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God said a temple will be built in the millennium in Israel and even showed the plans or blueprints.... God word does not come back to him void!

Jesus has indeed created a spiritual temple... And when he returns ... He will build a literal temple just as god has laid out for him to do... Gods words are not spoken in vain....:)
We'll definitely see...but when you read Ezekiel 40 and Rev 21...it's obvious those cities are the same.

God's words are never in vain...how we understand them can be though. The preponderance of scripture is obvious...no temple.

When you get to glory...Jesus will fill you in...:thumbsup:
 
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We'll definitely see...but when you read Ezekiel 40 and Rev 21...it's obvious those cities are the same.

God's words are never in vain...how we understand them can be though. The preponderance of scripture is obvious...no temple.

When you get to glory...Jesus will fill you in...:thumbsup:

Have to disagree with you again.. :)

One city is built by Christ during the millennium and ezek 4th temple is built

One city is being built by Christ in heaven and will descend down from heaven to earth after the millennium and yes no temple is erected here... For the father will be with us...all will see him ... Generations will walk and talk with him...all will know the father

So two different city's

One has a temple the other does not..

Preterist and futurist are never going to see eye to eye...:) .. Well not on this forum.. :)

Peace...
 
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Have to disagree with you again.. :)

One city is built by Christ during the millennium and ezek 4th temple is built

One city is being built by Christ in heaven and will descend down from heaven to earth after the millennium and yes no temple is erected here... For the father will be with us...all will see him ... Generations will walk and talk with him...all will know the father

So two different city's

One has a temple the other does not..

Preterist and futurist are never going to see eye to eye...:) .. Well not on this forum.. :)

Peace...
I'm concerned with what is true, whether preterist or futurist, if it's true, I accept it.

You think in a perfect world, saint's will have to live in buildings??? For what???

Those are not two different cities. Obviously you have not read those passages carefully. The same "man with the measuring rod" is walking Ezekiel and John through the same thing.

Have you read Revelation 21:2?
2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.

Do you not realize that is the church? She is the bride of Christ. That is not a literal city.
 
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Have to disagree with you again.. :)

One city is built by Christ during the millennium and ezek 4th temple is built

One city is being built by Christ in heaven and will descend down from heaven to earth after the millennium and yes no temple is erected here... For the father will be with us...all will see him ... Generations will walk and talk with him...all will know the father

So two different city's

One has a temple the other does not..

Preterist and futurist are never going to see eye to eye...:) .. Well not on this forum.. :)

Peace...

Because Preterism is heresy.

Those who practice Heresy will not enter the kingdom of God.


JLB
 
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