Why There Will Be No Third Temple!!!

[LittleLambofJesus]

When the folks a the Temple Mount Institute were asked by a Prophecy group directly -

Question: Can you build your temple in 3 1/2 years?

Answer: With today's technology and equipment, Yes.

JLB

They don't even have a place to build it yet


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[LittleLambofJesus]

And you know what? It isn't going to happen because it is politically impossible.

They will also have to contend with the Muslims concerning the Gold Dome

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

They don't even have a place to build it yet


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does it need to be on the temple mount? couldn't they build it somewhere else? what about down in the square..

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

They don't even have a place to build it yet
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does it need to be on the temple mount? couldn't they build it somewhere else?

That is their problem, not mine...


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[Choose Wisely]

These things have already occurred. However since you have a "futurist view" you either don't know it or don't receive it.

That was John Levi of Gishala. Josephus recorded the event.

I guess it's possible to hold this type of view......if you turn a blind eye to scripture.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the same events. I guess if you don't pay attention to detail or have any insight to the truth, you could mistake Matt 24 and Luke 21 to be talking about the same thing.

Try reading them carefully and pay attention to detail........and then you will have understanding.

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

The Third Temple in the bible codes - YouTube

5776 seems to be the year that the temple is completed.. don't know what that is in English.. see if I can find out.

the spring months of 2016 fall within the Jewish year 5776

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by ebedmelech

These things have already occurred. However since you have a "futurist view" you either don't know it or don't receive it.

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I guess it's possible to hold this type of view......if you turn a blind eye to scripture.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the same events. I guess if you don't pay attention to detail or have any insight to the truth, you could mistake Matt 24 and Luke 21 to be talking about the same thing.

Try reading them carefully and pay attention to detail........and then you will have understanding.

They are talking of the same event

http://www.christianforums.com/t7405089-5/#post53043894
What the sign?

Matt 24:3......and what? the Sign
Mark 13:4.....and what? the Sign...
Luke 21:7.....and what? the Sign.....


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[Choose Wisely]

They are talking of the same event

http://www.christianforums.com/t7405089-5/#post53043894
What the sign?

Matt 24:3......and what? the Sign
Mark 13:4.....and what? the Sign...
Luke 21:7.....and what? the Sign.....


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Here you go. I could point to many things, but this is so simple. All you have to do is look at a few words and you can tell that Luke 21 at one point talks about 70ad and Matt talks about the end times. All you have to do is know the difference between "but before all these" and "Then" As long as you don't do a Zeke on these words and change the meaning you should be able to understand.


Luke 21
9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.


Matt 24
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Matt 24 and Luke 21 are NOT talking about the same thing.

 

[Marantha]

It says "In the visions of God"...so it's a vision.


As you read Ezekiel...you come to 43:10-12:
10 “As for you, son of man, describe the temple to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities; and let them measure the plan.
11If they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known to them the design of the house, its structure, its exits, its entrances, all its designs, all its statutes, and all its laws. And write it in their sight, so that they may observe its whole design and all its statutes and do them.
12 This is the law of the house: its entire area on the top of the mountain all around shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.

When was Israel ever ashamed? They never were! They went on to crucify Christ.

I agree. You explained this very, very well.

Come Lord Jesus

 

[Marantha]

Originally Posted by ebedmelech It's a prophecy that was fulfilled in 70 A.D.

Show me any "coming of the Lord" in the OT that was physical.


Christ did come at least one time in the Old Testament; He was with the 3 in the furnace when the King came to check.....

King N. said he saw four men..... the three that were there before, and a fourth like the "Son of God"

The twisted propaganda version of the NEW King James FALSELY (intentionally) says he saw the fourth as "a Son of the GODS".

That little "s" changes the ENTIRE BIBLE. May the Lord rebuke whoever intentionally changed that to deceive us.


That was Christ coming at least 1 time in the OT.

Praise be to Christ
Marantha

 

[Choose Wisely]

Originally Posted by ebedmelech It's a prophecy that was fulfilled in 70 A.D.

Show me any "coming of the Lord" in the OT that was physical.


Christ did come at least one time in the Old Testament; He was with the 3 in the furnace when the King came to check.....

King N. said he saw four men..... the three that were there before, and a fourth like the "Son of God"

The twisted propaganda version of the NEW King James FALSELY (intentionally) says he saw the fourth as "a Son of the GODS".

That little "s" changes the ENTIRE BIBLE. May the Lord rebuke whoever intentionally changed that to deceive us.


That was Christ coming at least 1 time in the OT.

Praise be to Christ
Marantha

Well, there you go ebedmelech.

So I guess this means you will be casting aside your beliefs that are in error and becoming someone that believes the word.

 

[Douggg]

Did you know that Babe Ruth had a . 342 lifetime average? Now who would you want on your team? Babe Ruth or Frank Gilmore with a .043 lifetime batting average? How about if we give you Frank and we take Babe for our team. Sense you think it is "hubris" to predict the future. What do you do when you hire a plumber to fix your plumbing. Sense you can not know the future, then you do not know if he is going to be able to do the job or not. You will have to wait to see what the outcome is. Did you know that universities have very exact tests that help them to know the future and predict who will get the job done and who has a good chance of dropping out of school and not being able to finish the program. Do you want me to go on with the endless ways we know and predict the future every day? What about the Wright Brothers? Bottom line is they had the winning formula. No one else could get their math right. That is why they were able to fly, when no one else could. They were able to do what no one else could accomplish, because they had the right formula. The Bible says: "These signs shall follow those that believe". What sort of a average do we have. What are we known for and what sort of a trail do we leave behind us?

That was actually a pretty good post.

Doug

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Joshua0

Did you know that Babe Ruth had a . 342 lifetime average? Now who would you want on your team? Babe Ruth or Frank Gilmore with a .043 lifetime batting average?
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That was actually a pretty good post.

Doug

In what way?



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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Marantha

Originally Posted by ebedmelech It's a prophecy that was fulfilled in 70 A.D.
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Show me any "coming of the Lord" in the OT that was physical.

Well, there you go ebedmelech.

So I guess this means you will be casting aside your beliefs that are in error and becoming someone that believes the word.

Nothing wrong with that.



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[ebedmelech]

I left the debate because I gave you a thorough and complete answer, and you flatly refused to accept what the Bible explicitly says. You value your interpretations of the meanings of parts of ten chapters of the New Testament more than most of the last half of the Old Testament. If these chapters in the New Testament explicitly said what you claim they mean, it would be different. But I clearly demonstrated that your conclusions about their meanings are only interpretations of what they say, not what they say. I also clearly demonstrated that there are other possible interpretations of these same passages that do not contradict any other passage in the word of God.

That's right Biblewriter you gave your view which flatly ignores the spiritual and symbolic of scripture. Something typical of literal futurist. You say these scripture say what you think you demonstrated. What you really demonstrated was even though it was shown to yo clearly Ezekiel's temple was in heaven...you didn't accept that. That's ok. You're accountable to God how you handle the word, just as I am...so don't be offended. Your answers weren't in line with the word.

I will continue to value, and to teach, the explicitly sated word of God over the interpretations of those who do not want to believe what God explicitly said. If the explicit words of the Bible mean nothing to you, than I have no more to say.

Go right ahead...but put this down...

Just because you think what you say is "explicit" doesn't mean it is...and please realize what Peter said "it's no one's private interpretation"...it's men inspired of God.

You ignore the spiritual...I'm glad Paul and Peter doesn't!

 

[Douggg]

In what way?

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What the future holds is within bible prophecy. Pursuing bible prophecy is fellowshipping with God.

Doug

 

[ebedmelech]

I guess it's possible to hold this type of view......if you turn a blind eye to scripture.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the same events. I guess if you don't pay attention to detail or have any insight to the truth, you could mistake Matt 24 and Luke 21 to be talking about the same thing.

Try reading them carefully and pay attention to detail........and then you will have understanding.

I do. I just don't dismiss history in favor of the future...I look at both. You might try that.

 

[ebedmelech]

Originally Posted by ebedmelech It's a prophecy that was fulfilled in 70 A.D.

Show me any "coming of the Lord" in the OT that was physical.


Christ did come at least one time in the Old Testament; He was with the 3 in the furnace when the King came to check.....

King N. said he saw four men..... the three that were there before, and a fourth like the "Son of God"

The twisted propaganda version of the NEW King James FALSELY (intentionally) says he saw the fourth as "a Son of the GODS".

That little "s" changes the ENTIRE BIBLE. May the Lord rebuke whoever intentionally changed that to deceive us.


That was Christ coming at least 1 time in the OT.

Praise be to Christ
Marantha

That is not a "coming"...that is a "theophiny" (a pre-incarnate appearing of Christ).

*Jesus also came to see Abraham and tell Him of Isaac's birth.

*Jesus also appeared to Joshua.

They are not "comings" they are appearances. If you will notice when the Lord "comes" it's usually associated with mountians quaking, smoke, and dark clouds...

Like when He came to Mount Sinai...Exodus 19:18-20
18 Now Mount Sinai was all in smoke because the Lord descended upon it in fire; and its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked violently.
19 When the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and God answered him with thunder.
20 The Lord came down on Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain; and the Lord called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up.

That's the Lord coming.

 

[Biblewriter]

even though it was shown to yo clearly Ezekiel's temple was in heaven...you didn't accept that.

What was shown to me clearly was that you think Ezekiel's temple was in heaven. But opinions do not change the words of scripture.

That's ok. You're accountable to God how you handle the word, just as I am...so don't be offended. Your answers weren't in line with the word.

Go right ahead...but put this down...

Just because you think what you say is "explicit" doesn't mean it is...and please realize what Peter said "it's no one's private interpretation"...it's men inspired of God.

Tat is not what this scripture means. it means that no scripture can be interpreted without considering all the rest of scripture, which is exactly what you are doing. You are so certain that your system of interpretation is correct that all the explicit statements in the world will never change your interpretations.

You ignore the spiritual...I'm glad Paul and Peter doesn't!

In the thread titled "The Real Meaning of Romans 9-11, I showed you that Paul agrees with me. But you rejected that, just as you reject the Old Testament.

Again, this has degenerated into a childish argument, so over and out.

 

[Marantha]

That is not a "coming"...that is a "theophiny" (a pre-incarnate appearing of Christ).

*Jesus also came to see Abraham and tell Him of Isaac's birth.

*Jesus also appeared to Joshua.

They are not "comings" they are appearances. If you will notice when the Lord "comes" it's usually associated with mountians quaking, smoke, and dark clouds...

Like when He came to Mount Sinai...Exodus 19:18-20
18 Now Mount Sinai was all in smoke because the Lord descended upon it in fire; and its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked violently.
19 When the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and God answered him with thunder.
20 The Lord came down on Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain; and the Lord called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up.

That's the Lord coming.

Thank you; your post was truly informative.

I had considered the other examples you had given......but what makes the example of Daniel different is that the eye-witness of Christ in the furnace was seen by a NONBELIEVER, King N.

the other two examples you gave in the OT were by men of God. Doesn't that prove that the appearance of Christ in Daniel was a literal physical appearance?

For contrast, when Christ physically appeared to Paul to ask why he was persecuting him; his companions did not see....only heard.

Praise be to God
Marantha