Why the pretense?

[Zakath]

It surely is!

Well, another day I can win the bet that a certain dead rabbi won't reappear before tomorrow...

 

[Zakath]

Here! Here! "Insomuch as ye harm none, do as ye will!"

... thank you, Mr. Gardner...

 

[Jetgirl]

I think sleeping with the lecturers is frowned on at British universities but not forbidden. My middle daughter was having an affair with one of her lecturers when she was at university, I believe.

I dated my calc professor.

However, I was living off-campus and would have thought it highly inappropriate for a school employee (and housing supervisors are school employees) to have dalliance with current students in student facilities.

Professional ethics problems abound.

 

[Zakath]

I dated my calc professor.

However, I was living off-campus and would have thought it highly inappropriate for a school employee (and housing supervisors are school employees) to have dalliance with current students in student facilities.

Professional ethics problems abound.

Agreed, but I don't think there was anything in the OP that indicated it was an issue of professional ethics. It appears to be more a matter of one person trying to enforce their moral preferences on an entire state institution.

 

[TeddyKGB]

However, I was living off-campus and would have thought it highly inappropriate for a school employee (and housing supervisors are school employees) to have dalliance with current students in student facilities.

Professional ethics problems abound.

I think we are getting ahead of ourselves. The blurb in the OP makes no mention of cohabitation between university employees and students.

 

[Jetgirl]

I think we are getting ahead of ourselves. The blurb in the OP makes no mention of cohabitation between university employees and students.

Then the only problem I could really see would be: since housing supervisors housing and food is usually paid for by the school there could be some problems with another person habitually living in that space.

Honestly, the person has the right to complain and insist all they want. School can do something about it or not. Whatever.

 

[Diane_Windsor]

But you cannot "shape society" by demanding that individual rights be curtailed according to your religious whims.

Perhaps not, individually speaking, but the American people can demand whatever they want.

DIANE

 

[Diane_Windsor]

It appears to be more a matter of one person trying to enforce their moral preferences on an entire state institution.

I don't see anyone trying to 'enforce' their moral preferences on ISU:

(AgapePress) - Some parents with students at Illinois State University want the school to reverse its policy permitting professional staff to engage in unmarried cohabitation in student dormitories.
One father, Greg Myers, says he was outraged to learn that the school's Student Affairs Office allowed his daughter's dorm supervisor to cohabitate with his girlfriend in ISU's Watterson Hall.

Myers' daughter, a senior at ISU, is a resident assistant in the dorm. Like her father, she objects to the staff cohabitation policy because of her Christian beliefs. The university's Housing Services office also permits staff members with same-sex romantic partners to live together in student dorms.

I see people using their freedom of speech to express outrage at a school policy.

Merry Christmas!
DIANE

 

[TeddyKGB]

Perhaps not, individually speaking, but the American people can demand whatever they want.

Three words: Bill. Of. Rights.

 

[Wickwoman]

Well, another day I can win the bet that a certain dead rabbi won't reappear before tomorrow...

HA! Never thought of it that way.

There used to be a sign on the highway where I lived that said "Jesus is coming immediately!" It stayed for about 5 years or so. The irony made me burst into laughter every time I passed it.

 

[Wickwoman]

Hi Diane W. What I see people using their right to freedom of speech to do is to attempt to restrict the freedom of others to live in the way they see fit. Why can't the girl and her parents just avoid cohabitation themselves and let others make the decision for themselves?

 

[Scally Cap]

He does not want his daughter in a place where she would theoretically be allowed to live with her boyfriend before marriage.

In a place like... the real world? He best keep her locked in a room in his own house, then...

 

[Zakath]

Hi Diane W. What I see people using their right to freedom of speech to do is to attempt to restrict the freedom of others to live in the way they see fit. Why can't the girl and her parents just avoid cohabitation themselves and let others make the decision for themselves?

Because certain interpretations of the "religion of the book" require believers to compel others to believe as they do, or at least act that way.

 

[Zakath]

In a place like... the real world? He best keep her locked in a room in his own house, then...

Yup. I wonder if he's already got her bride price calculated yet...

 

[Zakath]

I don't see anyone trying to 'enforce' their moral preferences on ISU...I see people using their freedom of speech to express outrage at a school policy.

Merry Christmas!
DIANE

From later in the same article...

...Myers is asking Illinois State University to reverse its cohabitation policy, which currently permits unmarried heterosexual and homosexual staff members alike to have live-in romantic partners in student dormitories. "This is something that I think is just over the top as far as lack of character and lack of values in a policy decision," the father says, "and I just think it is detrimental to a balanced education by a university charged with the responsibility of our children."...

source

Petitioning a state-owned institution to change its policies based on one's religious views is certainly within his rights as a US citizen (so far...) but it is also within my right as another tax paying citizen to protest his attempt to impose a moral code I find objectionable on a tax-funded institution.

 

[rosalind110]

It is not about sin and putting someone down for something like that.

I can tell you that you should only have sex with the person with whom you are married (because you have become of one flesh). Otherwise it risks adultery by having sex with someone who is not your wife.


Okay - so now explain what 'marriage' is. Is it a ceremony with lots of pretty words and a piece of paper signed by the authorities, or is it a commitment to another person before God? Supposing that you don't go get the piece of paper, but you make your commitment before God - does that mean you are less married than the person who goes to a church and says the words, but doesn't believe a word of them? For that matter, what precisely does the word, 'marriage' mean in biblical terms because I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with what we call 'marriage' 2000 years later and in a different culture. I see a concern with social/cultural appearances here, but I don't see a moral argument unless you are to make the judgement that without the legal piece of paper there is no marriage before God.