Why the Christian creation myth

[Speedwell]

fine. first: evolution contradict many things in the bible.

In your opinion. So what? That is not the same thing as being "anti-theist"

2) most scientists think that evolution is a natural process.

True. So what? Both theist and atheist scientists accept it as such.

3) mutation and natural selection (the main force of evolution) is a natural process by definition. this is why they call it "natural selection".

It is a natural process. But accepting that natural processes are real is not "anti-theist."

4) as i said: every atheist believe in evolution. but not every creationist believe it. so there is a correlation between evolution and atheism.

LOL! By that reckoning all scientific theories are "anti-theist."

But the truth is out now. You are just the same as all the other creationists who come here; it's not about God or about science, it's about the Bible and your shallow and theologically inadequate interpretation of it.

 

[xianghua]

In your opinion. So what?

so what? so evolution contradict the main basis for all 3 main major religions.

True. So what? Both theist and atheist scientists accept it as such.

so if evolution is a natural process then why we need designer at all? natural porcess just means natural process. without any intelligent involve. or as wiki put it: "manufactured objects and human interaction generally are not considered part of nature"

Nature - Wikipedia

 

[Aman777]

fine. first: evolution contradict many things in the bible.
2) most scientists think that evolution is a natural process.
3) mutation and natural selection (the main force of evolution) is a natural process by definition. this is why they call it "natural selection".
4) as i said: basically every atheist believe in evolution. but not every creationist believe it. so there is a correlation between evolution and atheism.

1. That's because it's a big lie. It was dreamed up more than 150 years ago by Godless scoffers who rejected God's Truth, especially the flood. ll Pet 3:3-7
2. Evols changed the name from, Descent with modification within His and Their kinds, to the nasty filthy word "evolution". Then, they force taught it to our children as scientific fact. Increased punishment awaits them. Mat 18:6
3. Amen, since that is the way God meant for it to be. God changes NOT.
4. Amen, since it helps to have a Godless world view which ignores God's Truth. Ask any atheist. Amen?

 

[Speedwell]

so what? so evolution contradict the main basis for all 3 main major religions.

Only the way you--and a distinct minority of other believers--interpret it.

so if evolution is a natural process then why we need designer at all? natural porcess just means natural process.

Nature - Wikipedia

Who created the process?

 

[Aman777]

Only the way you--and a distinct minority of other believers--interpret it.

Who created the process?

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

God (Elohim-The Trinity) spoke and created living creatures all over the Cosmos and beyond from Water. Gen 1:21 Godless evolution preachers changed the words from God created to "Natural". These worshipers of the "Natural" recently learned what God told us more than 3k years ago. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/.../behold-luca-last-universal-common-ancestor-life...

IOW, "Natural" is nothing more than God created from water. Amen?

 

[Speedwell]

Many of our creationist friends don't get it. They think "natural" means God had nothing to do with it.

 

[xianghua]

Only the way you--and a distinct minority of other believers--interpret it

why we need to interpret it in a different way from what the bible says?

 

[Aman777]

Many of our creationist friends don't get it. They think "natural" means God had nothing to do with it.

Amen. They worship at the Altar of ancient theologians superstitious views.

 

[Aman777]

why we need to interpret it in a different way from what the bible says?

It's because only those who have been born again Spiritually in Christ, and who live in the last days before Jesus returns Dan 12:4 can possibly understand the Words of the Holy Spirit, the Author of Scripture.

1Co 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

 

[Speedwell]

why we need to interpret it in a different way from what the bible says?

"What the Bible says" is your interpretation. It doesn't "say" quite the same thing to everyone.

 

[xianghua]

"What the Bible says" is your interpretation. It doesn't "say" quite the same thing to everyone.

so we can interpret the bible in any way we want?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Scientists do science. That is a correct way of doing things.

You seem to be doing your best to not admit to the obvious...........


You said that christianity / the bible provides answers to EVERYTHING.
If that is true, then why do we need scientists to try and answer ANYTHING?

3rd time that I ask the question.

Every time I need to ask again, there's more chance that no answers will come.

Any time you are ready to retract your previous quote that your religion provides answers to EVERYTHING............................................. Or at the very least, clarify what you meant by "everything".

 

[DogmaHunter]

so why every atheist is also an evolutionists? is it a coincidence?

Why do most christians accept evolution?

Fun fact: of all the evolution accepters in the world, most are actually theists.

 

[DogmaHunter]

A good scientist should know the boundary of science. Do not go beyond that in order to lose the quality of a scientist. Steve Hawking is an example who failed on this principle.

Yeah, Hawking is such a "failed scientist",....

 

[Speedwell]

so we can interpret the bible in any way we want?

I'm beginning to wonder if you are actually a Jew.

 

[Aman777]

so we can interpret the bible in any way we want?

That's called "Religion". It's why I seek to show the agreement of Scripture with Science and History. It's also WHY the Religion of Evolution is false since it does not agree with anything. God's Truth, which shows changes within kinds over time in a population, has been perverted by the believers in Godless Evolutionism. They love to change the meaning of words in order to support their beliefs.

 

[juvenissun]

You seem to be doing your best to not admit to the obvious...........


You said that christianity / the bible provides answers to EVERYTHING.
If that is true, then why do we need scientists to try and answer ANYTHING?

3rd time that I ask the question.

Every time I need to ask again, there's more chance that no answers will come.

Any time you are ready to retract your previous quote that your religion provides answers to EVERYTHING............................................. Or at the very least, clarify what you meant by "everything".

You missed the point.
There is something in this world called science. We do not understand science.
The Bible says: let some people be scientists. And let them do science.
Does the Bible provide an excellent answer to "this" particular problem or question?

It is an excellent answer, because the Bible does NOT say, scientist should do theology according to the way of doing science. This is an excellent implication.

So, does the Bible answered a major question which is STILL bothering a lot of people today?

 

[juvenissun]

Yeah, Hawking is such a "failed scientist",....

This is your fault of illogical allegation.
Hawking is such a failed "theologist".
Get it?

 

[DogmaHunter]

This is your fault of illogical allegation.
Hawking is such a failed "theologist".
Get it?

I don't remember Hawking doing any work in theology.

But I get it, you have an emotional need to demonize him.

 

[DogmaHunter]

The Bible says: let some people be scientists. And let them do science.

Where does it say that, exactly?

Does the Bible provide an excellent answer to "this" particular problem or question?

What question or problem?
And let's find out, where does it say that?

And if that is what you believe, then why do you reject so much science?

So, does the Bible answered a major question which is STILL bothering a lot of people today?

But you didn't say that it answers a "major question". You said it answers EVERYTHING.
If it answers EVERYTHING, why would have a need for scientists to find out the answer to ANYTHING?

Do you even keep track of your own claims?
Because it looks like you are simply engaging in ad hoc defences or something....
Sounds like you are making everything up on the spot.