So you have read the Qur'an cover to cover and have a deep understanding of its laws and teachings? I think that is the only way to make a good choice between the two.
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You did not ask for my choice. I AM answering your question.
OK, reason of my choice: very simple: The Bible give MUCH MORE consistent and high quality (not true or false) answers to almost ANY question you may have.
That is why I choose the Bible. What I am saying here is whether the Book gives an answer or not. It gives an answer or it gives no answer. That is it. Do not try to evaluate the answer yet, such as using the word: ridiculous.
The whole Bible presents a "systematic" information. Not just one good answer here or one bad answer there.
Have you actually read the Quran? If not, then you don't know if it gives an answer or not.
So you have read the Qur'an cover to cover and have a deep understanding of its laws and teachings? I think that is the only way to make a good choice between the two.
No. I did not. I only look for any possible answer to my questions.
I do not have to read the whole chemistry textbook to know what is a covenant bond.
For example, I can search: "what does Quran say about sin?"
And get an accurate response? If it is anything like the Bible there are multiple interpretations of its teachings, and what if the source is not credible? Do you think Dawkins would give those unfamiliar with Christianity a very accurate view of its teachings (from a Christian viewpoint)? Is that how you read the Bible too, through Google? If you take your faith seriously you would read the Bible yourself and come to your own conclusions.
First, look at if there is an answer.
Second, ask another question, see if there is also an answer.
etc.
Accurate answer? Multiple interpretation? Those are second line questions. And the key is again: Do YOU like the answer or not. Any other criteria does not matter.
You are using a middle man to determine your beliefs in something that you can do yourself. For something that you are going to base your entire beliefs around, that is not the wisest decision. For things such as science, it is understandable why a person has to rely on scientists for information. But a Bible or Qur'an is easily accessible and with a little hard work you can understand its meaning.
So you follow the Bible because you like it? Because it makes you feel good? Should you not base your beliefs on truth and accuracy, not feelings?
It answers my questions.
And I like the answers.
What else do you want? Science prove? You will never have it.
This.
People should think a little bit about where the rules and conventions and the reality of mathematics come from before giving it as an example of clear and uncontested truths.
There is a reason a lot of mathematicians are Platonists.
As far as the original question, I don't consider that what Islam teaches philosophically to be very credible, so that weighs against the book being real.
I also think that the story of how it was delivered is pretty questionable - we have one man who apparently was told the whole thing by an angel. No one else was there.
All of the things I might look to to corroborate his story, directly or indirectly, are not in evidence.
If we consider what a purely historical explanation might be - that Mohammed, for some reason, combined what he had heard from Christian heretics with the religious beliefs of his people
On the other hand, the Bible was produced in an altogether different way.
Unlike Islam, we don't believe that it is literally God's truth word for word
It represents not just what one person says happened, but the OT is the whole experience of entire people over a long period of time
and the NT is the witness accounts of other people.
It also isn't a book alone, it is the product of a community of witnesses where many claimed eyewitness and ever deeply personal experience with Christ.
That is a different sort of thing than one man alone taught be an angel
Philosophically what it teaches is not only credible, it solves some of the serious problems philosophers had been struggling with for years, not only in the abstract but, if it is true, in a concrete sense.
Of course the accounts of witnesses to historical events are what they are - they can never really be proven. But some are more credible than others.
That wasn't the part of the claim I "know".
Those aren't referring to the same events.
They say they were corrupted over time, as in by the time of Muhammad. Yet the scriptures we have predate Muhammad and are not significantly different in the way the Koran says.
We have extant sources from long before that and they don't say any of the things the Koran says they say.
Many of them were within decades (i.e. the span of a single human lifetime)
No, no. Not asking anyone else. Ask YOURSELF.
It is not anyone else's business except YOURSELF. Nobody can choose the Book for you. You need to make a choice.
Accept this one, or accept that one, or reject both. But you can not accept both. Because they are incompatible.
You did not ask for my choice. I AM answering your question.
OK, reason of my choice: very simple: The Bible give MUCH MORE consistent and high quality (not true or false) answers to almost ANY question you may have.
First, look at if there is an answer.
Second, ask another question, see if there is also an answer.
etc.
Accurate answer? Multiple interpretation? Those are second line questions. And the key is again: Do YOU like the answer or not.
Any other criteria does not matter.
It answers my questions.
And I like the answers.
What else do you want? Science prove? You will never have it.
And how do you validate the answer?
How do you conclude wheter or not the answer is a correct answer?
That's really what's being asked here...
Both books offer a worldview. The exercise at hand is finding out which worldview is more plausible then the other.
So.... the truth of an answer is determined by how much you "like" that answer?
So if I ask 2 people if my wife is cheating on me and one says "yes" while the other says "no", then I am justified in believing the first one, because I don't "like" the answer of the second one?
It's not about what I believe.
The purpose of my question is to find out if any of you who chose the bible over the quran have a rational reason to do so.
It doesn't seem to be the case.
I don't see how. Rather, it seems you're trying to answer my question with another question.
I'm just asking if you have rational reason to choose one over the other. That's all. There's no need to interrogate me about either book. I only ask you to give me your rationale to choose on over the other.
Muslims disagree.
But anyhow, can you give a specific example? Don't try to question me about it. Just give me your BEST and MOST CONVINCING example.
Not scientific proof, because a person can neither prove nor disprove whether a god exists or not.
But, you are basing your whole life on a text that gives you answers you want, you can just Google for answers if that is what you want.
Many.
One I have given: The Quran does say anything about the origin of the world. That is a very important question.
Well, any one or any reference may give an answer to any question. The problem is whether you like it or not.
I have not seen good answers to those questions I concerned about anywhere else but in the Bible. In particular, if you have 5 questions, those 5 answers must be consistent among themselves. That is very difficult.
I will not base my whole life on a system which provides inconsistent answers.
There are many people who made a choice on one of the scriptures and then changed to another. It is not uncommon. You may like one at the beginning but discovered the other one is better at later time.
But that is the way one makes the first choice.
Otherwise, one will not choose and remained to be an atheist. If it is OK with you, then the OP is meaningless.
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