Why The Bible Says I Can't Belive Jesus is God?

[brianbe]

''No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.'' - John 1:18

Thank you for your reply.
Do you believe Jesus is God
or the Son of God?

 

[Slytherina]

Yes I do.

 

[brianbe]

Yes I do.

Thank you for your reply.
State any one scripture
from the bible that
persuaded you to believe Jesus is God.
Then you and I will start
our discussion at that point.

 

[brianbe]

Jesus is in no way inferior to, lesser than God the Father. During the incarnation, Jesus was temporarily “made lower than the angels” (Hebrews 2:9), which refers to Jesus’ status. The doctrine of the incarnation says that the second Person of the Trinity took on human flesh. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, Jesus was fully human and “made lower than the angels.” However, Jesus is fully divine, too. By taking on human nature, Jesus did not relinquish His divine nature—God cannot stop being God. How do we reconcile the fact that the second Person of the Trinity is fully divine yet fully human and by definition “lower than the angels”? The answer to that question can be found in Philippians 2:5-11. When the second Person of the Trinity took on human form, something amazing occurred. Christ “made himself nothing.” This phrase has generated more ink than almost any other phrase in the Bible. In essence, what it means is that Jesus voluntarily relinquished the prerogative of freely exercising His divine attributes and subjected Himself to the will of the Father while on earth.

Another thing to consider is the fact that subservience in role does not equate to subservience in essence. For example, consider an employer/employee relationship. The employer has the right to make demands of the employee, and the employee has the obligation to serve the employer. The roles clearly define a subservient relationship. However, both people are still human beings and share in the same human nature. There is no difference between the two as to their essence; they stand as equals. The fact that one is an employer and the other is an employee does nothing to alter the essential equality of these two individuals as human beings. The same can be said of the members of the Trinity. All three members (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are essentially equal; i.e., they are all divine in nature. However, in the grand plan of redemption, they play certain roles, and these roles define authority and subservience. The Father commands the Son, and the Father and the Son command the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, the fact that the Son took on a human nature and made Himself subservient to the Father in no way denies the deity of the Son, nor does it diminish His essential equality with the Father. It relates to His role, not to His essence.

Thank you for your reply.
State any one scripture
from the bible that
persuaded you to believe Jesus is God.
Then you and I will start
our discussion at that point.

 

[brianbe]

ANY ONE
FEEL FREE TO...

State any one scripture
from the bible that
persuaded you to believe Jesus is God.
Then you and I will start
our discussion at that point.

 

[AvgJoe]

@AvgJoe It's okay Average Joe. I switched sides. I now know that Jesus is God, As you can see in my previous 2 posts, I've discovered '' John 1:18 ''

This is the clearest verse that proves that Jesus is God. Amusing that I was the first one to post it.

Thanks for sharing that verse Slytherina.

 

[Slytherina]

I already gave you the scripture, OP. Trolling is not allowed here.

''No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.'' - John 1:18

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

great...another person saying that unless you come up with a verse where Jesus explicitly says " I am God, you must worship me!" than Jesus cannot be God.

muslim much?

 

[brianbe]

I already gave you the scripture, OP. Trolling is not allowed here.

''No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.'' - John 1:18

Thank you for your reply.
Did Jesus see God or did Jesus see himself?

A. God
B. Himself
C. I do not know.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

Would someone please point me to the verse where Jesus explicitly says I AM GOD! instead of this wild goose hunt chase of trying to piece together different verses together to make Jesus God. Paul talks about revealing a secret of gentiles being saved along with Jews, I wish he would've spoke about this other elephant in the room of Jesus being God. Would've saved us a tremendous amount of division among believers.

 

[Slytherina]

A and B.

@ImAllLikeOkWaitWhat ''No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.'' - John 1:18

 

[brianbe]

great...another person saying that unless you come up with a verse where Jesus explicitly says " I am God, you must worship me!" than Jesus cannot be God.

muslim much?

I am not a Muslim.
And I stated if you would read...

State any one scripture
from the bible that
persuaded you to believe Jesus is God.
Then you and I will start
our discussion at that point.

 

[Colter]

Thank you for your reply.
State any one scripture
from the bible that
persuaded you to believe Jesus is God.
Then you and I will start
our discussion at that point.

The Father within me bore witness to the divinity of the Son just as he did Peter and the other apostles. Also, his entire life and inherent powers prove to me that he was both human and divine. He is Lord and God.
Matthew 16:13-20

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

A and B.

@ImAllLikeOkWaitWhat ''No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.'' - John 1:18

Woah woah woah which translation says that? because the john 1:18 that i hover my mouse over says nothing of the sort.

 

[brianbe]

A and B.

Jesus looke upon Himself in heaven and s

A and B.

@ImAllLikeOkWaitWhat ''No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.'' - John 1:18

Thank you for your reply.
Jesus looked upon himself
in heaven and saw God?

A. Yes
B. No
C. I don't know.

 

[One of his followers]

We will begin the discussion at that point.
We will begin the discussion at that point......

I bet you're very efficient at typing that line out.

 

[brianbe]

The Father within me bore witness to the divinity of the Son just as he did Peter and the other apostles. Also, his entire life and inherent powers prove to me that he was both human and divine. He is Lord and God.
Matthew 16:13-20

Do you confess that Jesus
art the Christ the Son of the living God?

A. Yes
B. No

 

[brianbe]

I confess
to everyone
reading this thread

Jesus art the Christ
the Son of the living God.

 

[Colter]

Do you confess that Jesus
art the Christ the Son of the living God?

A. Yes
B. No

Yes, coarse I do inquisitor, the divine creator Son incarnate on earth and now in his rightful place on high having been given all power and authority in heaven and on earth.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

Would someone please point me to the verse where Jesus explicitly says I AM GOD! instead of this wild goose hunt chase of trying to piece together different verses together to make Jesus God. Paul talks about revealing a secret of gentiles being saved along with Jews, I wish he would've spoke about this other elephant in the room of Jesus being God. Would've saved us a tremendous amount of division among believers.

actually he did,

Philippians 2:5-11
1 Corinthians 8:5-6
colossians 1:15-20