WHY SOLA SCRIPTURA MAKES SENSE - UPDATED.

[LoveofTruth]

We read scripture very differently. Marriage is hardly a shadow and the verse you use does not say that at all. Just like God's Sabbath at Creation is not a shadow, will be kept by God's faithful for eternity thus saith the Lord Isa 56:1-7 Isa 66:22-23

Guess we will find out soon enough.

Well, according to the verse I gave you in Ephesians marriage is a shadow of a spiritual union with Vhrist. The church I also called a spotless bride and we read of the bride and the bridegroom and the marriage supper etc.

We do read scripture differently , I seek to have the Spirit reveal things to me and put no confidence in the flesh or carnal reasonings, 1 Corinthians 2:11,12,14

Just as there is a physical marriage and physical animal sacrifices in the OT and a physical resting on a certain day etc. These physical actions have a spiritual meaning. The lamb slain represents Jesus dying on the cross the physical marriage speaks of a spiritual reality in Christ the physical sabbath speaks of a sign and shadow of testing in Christ and more.

I live in the substance of things hopes for and Christ in me is the hope. You seem to live in the shadows.

And you seem to miss that the Sabbath and all OT aspects were part of the old covenant.

Isaiah 56: 4. For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;”

The sacrifices and sabbaths were for Israel throughout their generations. But when Jesus Christ finished the wirk and died snd rise again that ended that covenant. The new covenant is in his blood as Jesus said,

Luke 22: 20. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.”

 

[LoveofTruth]

The Sabbath of the fourth commandment, is not a shadow of Christ. It was given at Creation, alongside marriage (Genesis 2:1-3). So unless marriage is also a shadow, the Sabbath of the fourth commandment is still binding.

Its why Paul was so careful to provide the context of the sabbath shadows Col 2:14KJV - something that was handwritten- does that fit the context of the Sabbath commandment? No God finger wrote His moral law that defines sin and what man will be judged by His own finger Exo 31:18. Was the Sabbath an ordinance? No, God called His Ten Commandments "My commandments" Exo 20:6 the ordinances were handwritten by Moses that was placed outside the ark of the Covenant, that included the annual sabbath(s) ordinances that came after the fall of man. God's moral and righteous law was placed inside. Exo 40:20 Was the weekly Sabbath contrary or against - No! God blessed and sanctified the seventh day Sabbath Gen 2:1-3 and hallowed it Exo 20:11 not the definition of contrary or against and only God can reverse His blessing, Num 23:20 , yet you have provided no scripture that has a thus saith the Lord that we no longer need to keep God's holy Sabbath commandment. I can see why we have this warning in scripture about Paul's writings 2 Peter 3:16 Paul would never advocate that we sin against God.

Sadly many Christians cling to Col 2:16 without carefully studying the context or how it relates to the teachings of Jesus. If one did it is obviously it is not about the weekly Sabbath that is a commandment of God.

I will show you through scripture what the substance that is no longer binding since Christ came.

First, we need to understand what sin is as that is what our salvation is from. We are saved from sin Mat 1:21, not in sin. Heb 10:26-30

Sin is the transgression of God's law
1 John 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”

So sin is breaking God's Ten Commandments and it is what we will be judged by- breaking one we break them all. Jesus in His own Words said the same thing telling us not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments quoting from the Ten and in doing so one would be in fear of sin and Judgement. Mat 5:19-30


There is more than on sabbath in scripture. Paul was very careful to provide the details on the sabbath(s) he was referring to which was not the weekly Sabbath that is a commandment of God, written by God's own finger that is holy and blessed. The opposite of the context Paul provided.

It is the annual sabbaths contained in ordinances that were handwritten that have to do with food and drink and holy days which some are also called sabbath(s) that were given after the fall of man written by Moses placed on the outside of the ark as a witness against. This is the context. The weekly Sabbath was placed inside the ark Exo 40:20 and is the only commandment that reveals our Creator and points us back to Creation before sin entered so is not a shadow of anything. Not contrary or against. Not handwritten by Moses. The weekly Sabbath is not nailed to the cross, the apostles kept every Sabbath Acts 18:4 as they were servants of God and God's people keep God's commandments. Rev 14:12

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

If we look at verse 17 scripture tells us what this points to

Col 2:17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

Please read carefully because this tells us exactly what it points to the context of Col 2:14-17

This is the law being referred to.... the context will always reveal itself if we allow it to.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.

5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:

“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.’ ”
8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, [b]O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been [c]sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

What was taken away at the Cross? Animal sacrifices for sin. They always pointed forward to Christ whose blood can take away the sins of the world. So now in the New Covenant instead of bringing an animal offering for sin we have Jesus who is our High Priest and Advocate who we can go to when we sin and repent which means a change of heart and direction. It's why the New Covenant is established on better promises, not better laws because God's law is perfect for converting the soul Psa 19:7 because God is perfect- He could not personally write an imperfect law. It's why its still a sin in the NC to break the least of these commandments Mat 5:19-30 breaking one is like breaking them all James 2:10-12 and why there is no scripture that says the Sabbath commandment has been abrogated. It was predicted the Sabbath would be changed Dan 7:25 but not by God. Sadly there is only a remnant left who keep God's commandment Rev 12:17 God is calling us out of our false teachings Rev 18:4 because He is coming back soon. The Sabbath shows we are worshipping the true God Eze 20:20, the only God who has the power to sanctify us Eze 20:12 the only God who has the power to create heaven and earth Exo 20:11 and the same God of our Judgement Rev 14:12

I pray you consider these scriptures in prayer.

As I showed you before, Paul says the mosaic law “written and engraved in stones” was glorious in the past but now is done away and a ministration of condemnation and abolished in its initial use.

I know this section troubles many but it’s true abd of the commandments of the Lord that Paul wrote (1 Cor. 14;37,38 KJV)


Consider again in prayer

2 Corinthians 3:7-17 KJV
"7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious*, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather* glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious*, much more that which remaineth is glorious*.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon* their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”

 

[SabbathBlessings]

2 Corinthians 3:7-17 KJV
"7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious*, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather* glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious*, much more that which remaineth is glorious*.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon* their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”

behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: (fading) which is a better translation, which is what happened when Moses left the presence of God. His face shown in God's presence and as he left God his countenance faded.

Nothing about the Ten Commandments being done away with which God calls "My commandments" Exo 20:6 and "My covenant" Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28 not the law of Moses, or the covenant of Moses. Moses is not God. I believe we should give God the Glory on His work, He takes credit for it. Exo 32:16 and He tells us His Words He will not alter Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18 Do we know better than He? Paul taught what matters is keeping God's commandments (just as Jesus) and quotes from the Ten to define what sin is when breaking Rom 7:7 , just as Jesus Mat 5:19-30. Paul is not teaching us to sin, but is hard to understand hence the warning 2 Peter 3:16

The condemnation of sin for breaking God's law is death Rom 6:23, the law itself is holy, righteous and good Rom 7:12 Psa 119:172 and everlasting Psa 119:142 Mat 5:19 Rev 22:14

The old covenant had God's law written in stone , the New Covenant went from tables of stone to tables of the heart. Now it has God doing His power which enables us to keep His commandments if we don't rebel. Rom 8:7-8 Mat 5:19 Why the New Covenant is established on better promises Heb 8:6, not better laws, because it still has God's law which is perfect Psa 19:7 now written in the heart so they are close to us Heb 8:10 and His Spirit enables us to keep though faith and love John 14:15-18 Rom 3:31 1 John 5:3 Rev 14:12 which reconciles us Rev 22:14

Jesus tells us when we keep our own rules instead of keeping the commandments of God quoting from the Ten our hearts are far from Him, 15:3-14 which is what happens when we rebel against what God placed in our hearts Heb 8:10

Jesus told us to keep the commandments of God and quotes from the Ten telling us not to break or teach others to break the least of these Mat 15:3-14 Mat 5:19-30 Mark 7:7-13,

You're disagreement I'm afraid is with a much Higher Authority than I.

 

[LoveofTruth]

behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: (fading) which is a better translation, which is what happened when Moses left the presence of God. His face shown in God's presence and as he left God his countenance faded.

You are totally wrong here. Paul (speaking by the Spirit) is showing that the ministration of condemnation the Mosaic law written and engraved in stones (Ten Commandments including the sabbath) “was” glorious (past tense) then he compares that whole glory with the glory of the New Testament. Moses put a veil on his face, he in a way, saw the end of the law and the glory to come but this was veiled even as Paul says when some read the OT today the veil is in the heart. These things are hidden from them.

Hebrews 11: 26. Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. 27. By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.”

When you wrongly try hard to escape the clarity of this whole section that shows clearly (to those who have the veil taken away) that the Mosaic law is done away abolished and was glorious in the past but not now, you try to select a part about the veil and think this helps you in your reasoning. But in fact, it points out the error you share in a magnified way.

We also read, referring to the Law engraved in stones given by God through Moses,

13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished”

Notice the “is abolished” part.

Nothing about the Ten Commandments being done away

The entire section is referencing the Ten Commandments particularly and speaks of the ministration of death and condemnation written and engraved in stones (the Ten Commandments including the sabbath) having its own glory but far exceeded by the glory of the New Testament. I marvel that you don’t see this right in front of your face. Or maybe you don’t want to see it because then you would have to change your doctrine and be free and come out from any gathering that teaches wrongly abd binds men under the law.

with which God calls "My commandments" Exo 20:6 and "My covenant" Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28 not the law of Moses, or the covenant of Moses. Moses is not God.

I don’t know what your talking about here God gave the law and covenants to Moses the Ten Commandments were written with the finger of God.

Paul taught what matters is keeping God's commandments

Paul says all over the New Testament that the believers are not justified, saved or made righteous by observing an outward law or code or covenant of the Old Testament. In the section I showed you , 2 Cor. 3, Paul (writing by the Spirit, scripture), says the OT and specifically the Mosaic law engraved in stones was (past tense) glorious but now is done away, abolished, a ministration of death and condemnation. And those who don’t see this who read the OT have the veil on the heart.

(just as Jesus) and quotes from the Ten to define what sin is when breaking Rom 7:7 ,

We can still use the law, lawfully, in the right way to expose sin, but it is not made for a righteous man (who is made the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus and by faith ), but the END of the law is charity out if a pure heart. The law is not of faith, Paul said that he through the law is dead to the law. The law killed him.

just as Jesus Mat 5:19-30. Paul is not teaching us to sin, but is hard to understand hence the warning 2 Peter 3:16

2 Peter warning is more towards you in what you say here and how you wrest Paul’s words

The condemnation of sin for breaking God's law is death Rom 6:23, the law itself is holy, righteous and good Rom 7:12 Psa 119:172 and everlasting Psa 119:142 Mat 5:19 Rev 22:14

All have sinned, none can keep the law except Jesus who never sinned. Only in Christ are we made righteous and can now fulfill the intent of the law in love and our faith works by love.

And animal sacrifices were also throughout all the generations of Israel like all the laws and the entire covenant is ended when Jesus died and rose again. Even at the time Hebrews was written it had not totally faded away or decayed fully, but it was decaying ready to vanish.

The covenant is only in effect if they kept the law but since they broke it they broke the covenant this is similar to circumcision it only applies if they keep the law, but since all have sinned, thier circumcision was made in circumcision.

Romans 2: 25. For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.”

The old covenant had God's law written in stone , the New Covenant went from tables of stone to tables of the heart. Now it has God doing His power which enables us to keep His commandments if we don't rebel.

Read Galatians 3 it seems to apply to you. Sone think now that they have the Spirit they can go back under the jaw and keep the OT sabbaths abd days abd circumcision, tithing etc but that is the confusion. Read Galatians 3

Galatians 3: 2. This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3. Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4. Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5. He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?…10. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:”

Rom 8:7-8 Mat 5:19 Why the New Covenant is established on better promises Heb 8:6, not better laws, because it still has God's law which is perfect Psa 19:7 now written in the heart so they are close to us Heb 8:10 and His Spirit enables us to keep though faith and love John 14:15-18 Rom 3:31 1 John 5:3 Rev 14:12 which reconciles us Rev 22:14

Jesus tells us when we keep our own rules instead of keeping the commandments of God quoting from the Ten our hearts are far from Him, 15:3-14 which is what happens when we rebel against what God placed in our hearts Heb 8:10

Jesus told us to keep the commandments of God and quotes from the Ten telling us not to break or teach others to break the least of these Mat 15:3-14 Mat 5:19-30 Mark 7:7-13,

You're disagreement I'm afraid is with a much Higher Authority than I.

Jesus as Paul and any minister today can use the law to expose sin. As it applies . But some wrongly use the law.

1 Timothy 1: 6. From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; 7. Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.”

Romans 10: 3-6 “For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6. But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above) ”

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You are totally wrong here. Paul (speaking by the Spirit) is showing that the ministration of condemnation the Mosaic law written and engraved in stones (Ten Commandments including the sabbath) “was” glorious (past tense) then he compares that whole glory with the glory of the New Testament. Moses put a veil on his face, he in a way, saw the end of the law and the glory to come but this was veiled even as Paul says when some read the OT today the veil is in the heart. These things are hidden from them.

Hebrews 11: 26. Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. 27. By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.”

When you wrongly try hard to escape the clarity of this whole section that shows clearly (to those who have the veil taken away) that the Mosaic law is done away abolished and was glorious in the past but not now, you try to select a part about the veil and think this helps you in your reasoning. But in fact, it points out the error you share in a magnified way.

We also read, referring to the Law engraved in stones given by God through Moses,

13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished”

Notice the “is abolished” part.

The entire section is referencing the Ten Commandments particularly and speaks of the ministration of death and condemnation written and engraved in stones (the Ten Commandments including the sabbath) having its own glory but far exceeded by the glory of the New Testament. I marvel that you don’t see this right in front of your face. Or maybe you don’t want to see it because then you would have to change your doctrine and be free and come out from any gathering that teaches wrongly abd binds men under the law.

I don’t know what your talking about here God gave the law and covenants to Moses the Ten Commandments were written with the finger of God.

Paul says all over the New Testament that the believers are not justified, saved or made righteous by observing an outward law or code or covenant of the Old Testament. In the section I showed you , 2 Cor. 3, Paul (writing by the Spirit, scripture), says the OT and specifically the Mosaic law engraved in stones was (past tense) glorious but now is done away, abolished, a ministration of death and condemnation. And those who don’t see this who read the OT have the veil on the heart.

We can still use the law, lawfully, in the right way to expose sin, but it is not made for a righteous man (who is made the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus and by faith ), but the END of the law is charity out if a pure heart. The law is not of faith, Paul said that he through the law is dead to the law. The law killed him.

2 Peter warning is more towards you in what you say here and how you wrest Paul’s words

All have sinned, none can keep the law except Jesus who never sinned. Only in Christ are we made righteous and can now fulfill the intent of the law in love and our faith works by love.

And animal sacrifices were also throughout all the generations of Israel like all the laws and the entire covenant is ended when Jesus died and rose again. Even at the time Hebrews was written it had not totally faded away or decayed fully, but it was decaying ready to vanish.

The covenant is only in effect if they kept the law but since they broke it they broke the covenant this is similar to circumcision it only applies if they keep the law, but since all have sinned, thier circumcision was made in circumcision.

Romans 2: 25. For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.”

Read Galatians 3 it seems to apply to you. Sone think now that they have the Spirit they can go back under the jaw and keep the OT sabbaths abd days abd circumcision, tithing etc but that is the confusion. Read Galatians 3

Galatians 3: 2. This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3. Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4. Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5. He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?…10. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:”

Jesus as Paul and any minister today can use the law to expose sin. As it applies . But some wrongly use the law.

1 Timothy 1: 6. From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; 7. Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.”

Romans 10: 3-6 “For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6. But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above) ”

I quote Jesus and you provide Paul to try and countermand the teachings of Jesus, We are to live by every Word that Proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat 4:4 and only God can reverse His blessing Num 23:20 . Paul never taught anything different than Jesus, as a servant and disciple is not above his master Matthew 10:24 John 13:16 Paul is hard to understand and its exactly why we have the warning for those who do not reconcile his teachings to Jesus 2 Peter 3:16

Not one thus saith the Lord that we don't need to keep God's commandments because all of the thus saith the Lords are for us to keep, not to break the least of these commandments as one would be in fear of sin and Judgement Mat 5:19-30 Mat 15:3-14

God’s people keep God’s commandments Rev 14:12, not to be justified, not to be saved, but through love and faith in and of Jesus John 14:15 Rom 3:31 1 John 5:3 Exo 20:6 and faith not only to hear His Word but faith to live by them Mat 4:4 James 1:22 Rev 22:14 and that faith is what reconciles Rev 22:14 compared to what is outside Rev 22:15 1 John 2:4 Mat 7:23

Such a sad teaching that people would rather get rid of the other 9 commandments that proceeded from the mouth of God Exodus 20, personally written by His own finger Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 all because they don’t want to keep God’s Sabbath day holy. Exo 20:8-11 No wonder why God said Remember and said the Sabbath is a sign between God and His people Eze 20:20 those who want to serve Him and join themselves to Him to do what is righteous Isa 56:1-6. God hallowed the Sabbath Exo 20:11, Jesus kept the Sabbath Luke 23:56, His faithful followers kept the Sabbath Luke 23:56, the apostles kept the Sabbath Acts 18:4 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 16:8 Acts 16:13 but we can follow another example if we want despite the example we are told to follow 1 John 2:6 1 Peter 2:21-22

The choice is ours which path we want to take Rom 6:16 Rev 22:14-15

It’s time to put away the pearls, I’ll keep you in my prayers and I do wish you well in seeking Truth to God’s Word.

 

[LoveofTruth]

I quote Jesus and you provide Paul to try and countermand the teachings of Jesus,

I do nothing of the sort. Jesus was made under the law and Paul speaks of the new covenant and the end of the law . Paul says the ministration of condemnation and death and engraved on stones was to give place to the new testament glory. The old was done away abolished ready to vanish fade away.

Paul spoke as God spoke in him (2 Cor.13:5 KJV).

You try (as some I have met) who try to make me say that I think Paul and Jesus say different things at odds with each other. No I don’t. Or others get upset at Paul because they see Paul saying things like the law is not of faith and we are free from the law, etc.

Paul spoke as God spoke in him abs he spoke the commandments of the Lord.

2 Corinthians 13: 3. "Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you.”

1 Corinthians 14: 37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.”

Hebrews 13: 20. Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21. Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.”

 

[LoveofTruth]

Psa 89:34 My covenant I will not break,
Nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips.

"For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision." (Romans 2:25 KJV)

All have broken the law and the Old Covenant they broke also.

“Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:” (Jeremiah 31:32 KJV)

Jesus finished the work and a new covenant began with the death and resurrection of Jesus. The Old Covenant was fading away decaying ready to vanish, done away abolished in its ministration as Paul (speaking in Christ ) said.

I never pit Paul against Jesus Paul had jesus Christ speaking in him

“Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you." (2 Corinrhians 13:3 KJV)

 

[SabbathBlessings]

"For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision." (Romans 2:25 KJV)

All have broken the law and the Old Covenant they broke also.

“Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:” (Jeremiah 31:32 KJV)

Jesus finished the work and a new covenant began with the death and resurrection of Jesus. The Old Covenant was fading away decaying ready to vanish, done away abolished in its ministration as Paul (speaking in Christ ) said.

I never pit Paul against Jesus Paul had jesus Christ speaking in him

“Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you." (2 Corinrhians 13:3 KJV)

Yet once again, you are trying to reconcile Christ teachings to Paul instead of Paul’s to Christ. And in doing so, would make God the one breaking His Word Psa 89:34. We are told to live by every word that proceeds by the mouth of God Mat 4:4 Pauls teachings must be reconciled with Christs, not the other way around, they cannot contradict each other. Paul was a servant of Christ and was commissioned to teach and observe everything He commanded Mat 28:18-20

Lets look at the New Covenant...

Hebrews 8: 6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

So right here we have the scriptures contradicting what you're promoting that it is established on new laws and not better promises. It's always best to let God direct our paths. Pro 3:5-6 and He does so when we allow scripture to interpret Itself.


7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them,

God would not have changed the covenant (agreement)- had He not found fault with the people. That was the issue, not the Words of covenant, the Ten Commandments Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28. God already promised He would not alter the words of the Covenant- Psa 89:34 God does not lie, it’s up to us to have faith to believe and live by His every Word. What you are promoting is that God did alter His Words when He said He would not, just as what Jesus taught Mat 5:18. Someone is wrong, either God or one doesn’t understand the scriptures. I am going with the latter. Heb 6:18

What was the fault then? Let’s let scripture tell us....

He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant,

and the consequences of doing so

and I disregarded them, says the Lord.

But God loves us so much instead of giving up on humanity He established His new covenant based on better promises, just as it is stated. Not based on new laws as God tells us plainly- still has God’s law according to God.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people

Before what promise was the covenant based on? Let’s let scripture define it for us....

Exo 19:8 Then all the people answered together and said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do.”

What promise is the New Covenant?

Heb 10:8 says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts;

So now God is the one writing His laws in our hearts, He is the one doing based on His strength- which is a much better promise.

How do we know the Ten Commandments are God's law written in the heart? Because God said He would not alter His Words just like…

Jesus tells us, and I believe Him, as should we all. If we do not believe in Jesus, which means believe and be live His teachings, our future is not going to be so bright, because He tells us that a head of time, so there really won't be anyone's fault but our own for not believing in the Son of Man and following His example, which He lived and taught.

What happens when one rebels against God's law that He placed in our hearts and instead we follow our own rules in its place.

1. We make the Word of God of no effect
2. Our hearts are far from Him (opposite of the New Covenant- God's law written in our hearts)
3. We worship in vain (false worship)- compared to His saints (saved) Rev 14:12
4. We are the spiritual blind and end up in a ditch (off the narrow path) and those who we teach and follow our false teachings- similar to Mat 5:19

Jesus condemned those who do this....


Matthew 15: 3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; Found in the Ten Commandments- Exodus 20:12 and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. (Read parallel teaching Jesus used the commandments of God and the Word of God interchangeably Mark 7 7:13) 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

8 ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”
10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”

12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?”

13But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. 14 Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”

WOW! Worshipping in vain, our hearts are f a r from Him ending up in a ditch, which is what happens when we rebel against what God placed in our hearts His law- we can't please Him Rom 8:7-8

No wonder Jesus taught not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments Mat 5:19 because of why? One would be least in heaven and in fear of sin and Judgement Mat 5:19-30. Least in heaven does not mean one will be there if we read the next verse Mat 5:20. Jesus condemned them for not keeping the commandments of God and here clearly does not give anyone else a pass to do so as well.

No wonder why Paul taught what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19 the same ones Jesus taught because Paul never taught something different than Jesus, he was hard to understand which is why we have this warning in scripture

2 Peter 3:16 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

Being separated from God is the path to destruction.....which is what happens when we don't follow the teachings of Jesus or heed His warnings...such as

Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Because....

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God [a]is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

Jesus taught and lived the commandments of God including the Sabbath. John 15:10 Luke 4:16 Mark 2:27 Mat 24:20 Isa 56:1-6 etc

How do we know the law Jesus is referring to in Mat 7:23 at His Second Coming is the Ten Commandments?
Because Jesus said they were, He said He would not alter His Words Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18 our hearts are far from Him when we don’t keep the commandments of God and worship in vain, when we are called to worship Him in Truth John 4:23-24 not to break the least of these commandments as one would be least (not there) in heaven and we have this parallel verse right before the Revelation of Jesus Christ

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside (Judgment- commandment breakers just as we were told James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30) are dogs and sorcerers (breaking commandment #1 Exo 20:3) and sexually immoral (breaking commandment # 7 Exo 20:14) and murderers (breaking commandment #6 Exo 20:13) and idolaters (Breaking commandment #2 Exo 20:4), and whoever loves and practices a lie (breaking commandment #9 Exo 20:16 or any of them) . 1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. Also see James 2:10-12

We are not saved by keeping the commandments, we are saved by faith, but those who have faith in Jesus and love Him, obey Him. Rom 3:31 John 14:15 1 John 5:3 Exo 20:6 Rev 14:12 not on our own strength but through the power of the Holy Spirit through our love to Him John 14:15-18. All God's law does in show us our sin Rom 3:20 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 so we are not depending on our righteous way of living but depending on God's Psa 119:172 Isa 56:1-6 which is everlasting Psa 119:142. He doesn't even make us do it alone John 14:15-18 and if we stumble along the way if we are truly sorry and confess and repent He will cleanse us of all sin and unrighteousness 1 John 1:9 but when He heals He says go and sin no more. Our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21 we are not saved in sins Heb 10:26-30. Though the power of Jesus Christ we can overcome, but can't if we rebel against what God placed in our hearts. Rom 8:7-8

No wonder why Jesus pleads with us to come out of our false teachings Rev 18:4. It’s a matter of who we yield ourselves servants to obey. Rom 6:16 We are told to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat 4:4 yet many in that Great day will say Lord Lord, only to have the words we don't want to hear from Jesus because we were just hearers of His Word and not doers, only deceiving ourselves. James 1:22. It’s best to always pray for more love and faith in Him and His help obeying Him. If we turn away from His law. . . Pro 28:9

 

[LoveofTruth]

Yet once again, you are trying to reconcile Christ teachings to Paul instead of Paul’s to Christ. And in doing so, would make God the one breaking His Word Psa 89:34. We are told to live by every word that proceeds by the mouth of God Mat 4:4 Pauls teachings must be reconciled with Christs, not the other way around, they cannot contradict each other. Paul was a servant of Christ and was commissioned to teach and observe everything He commanded Mat 28:18-20

Lets look at the New Covenant...

Hebrews 8: 6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

So right here we have the scriptures contradicting what you're promoting that it is established on new laws and not better promises. It's always best to let God direct our paths. Pro 3:5-6 and He does so when we allow scripture to interpret Itself.


7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them,

God would not have changed the covenant (agreement)- had He not found fault with the people. That was the issue, not the Words of covenant, the Ten Commandments Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28. God already promised He would not alter the words of the Covenant- Psa 89:34 God does not lie, it’s up to us to have faith to believe and live by His every Word. What you are promoting is that God did alter His Words when He said He would not, just as what Jesus taught Mat 5:18. Someone is wrong, either God or one doesn’t understand the scriptures. I am going with the latter. Heb 6:18

What was the fault then? Let’s let scripture tell us....

He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant,

and the consequences of doing so

and I disregarded them, says the Lord.

But God loves us so much instead of giving up on humanity He established His new covenant based on better promises, just as it is stated. Not based on new laws as God tells us plainly- still has God’s law according to God.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people

Before what promise was the covenant based on? Let’s let scripture define it for us....

Exo 19:8 Then all the people answered together and said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do.”

What promise is the New Covenant?

Heb 10:8 says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts;

So now God is the one writing His laws in our hearts, He is the one doing based on His strength- which is a much better promise.

How do we know the Ten Commandments are God's law written in the heart? Because God said He would not alter His Words just like…

Jesus tells us, and I believe Him, as should we all. If we do not believe in Jesus, which means believe and be live His teachings, our future is not going to be so bright, because He tells us that a head of time, so there really won't be anyone's fault but our own for not believing in the Son of Man and following His example, which He lived and taught.

What happens when one rebels against God's law that He placed in our hearts and instead we follow our own rules in its place.

1. We make the Word of God of no effect
2. Our hearts are far from Him (opposite of the New Covenant- God's law written in our hearts)
3. We worship in vain (false worship)- compared to His saints (saved) Rev 14:12
4. We are the spiritual blind and end up in a ditch (off the narrow path) and those who we teach and follow our false teachings- similar to Mat 5:19

Jesus condemned those who do this....


Matthew 15: 3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; Found in the Ten Commandments- Exodus 20:12 and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. (Read parallel teaching Jesus used the commandments of God and the Word of God interchangeably Mark 7 7:13) 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

8 ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”
10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”

12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?”

13But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. 14 Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”

WOW! Worshipping in vain, our hearts are f a r from Him ending up in a ditch, which is what happens when we rebel against what God placed in our hearts His law- we can't please Him Rom 8:7-8

No wonder Jesus taught not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments Mat 5:19 because of why? One would be least in heaven and in fear of sin and Judgement Mat 5:19-30. Least in heaven does not mean one will be there if we read the next verse Mat 5:20. Jesus condemned them for not keeping the commandments of God and here clearly does not give anyone else a pass to do so as well.

No wonder why Paul taught what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19 the same ones Jesus taught because Paul never taught something different than Jesus, he was hard to understand which is why we have this warning in scripture

2 Peter 3:16 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

Being separated from God is the path to destruction.....which is what happens when we don't follow the teachings of Jesus or heed His warnings...such as

Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Because....

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God [a]is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

Jesus taught and lived the commandments of God including the Sabbath. John 15:10 Luke 4:16 Mark 2:27 Mat 24:20 Isa 56:1-6 etc

How do we know the law Jesus is referring to in Mat 7:23 at His Second Coming is the Ten Commandments?
Because Jesus said they were, He said He would not alter His Words Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18 our hearts are far from Him when we don’t keep the commandments of God and worship in vain, when we are called to worship Him in Truth John 4:23-24 not to break the least of these commandments as one would be least (not there) in heaven and we have this parallel verse right before the Revelation of Jesus Christ

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside (Judgment- commandment breakers just as we were told James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30) are dogs and sorcerers (breaking commandment #1 Exo 20:3) and sexually immoral (breaking commandment # 7 Exo 20:14) and murderers (breaking commandment #6 Exo 20:13) and idolaters (Breaking commandment #2 Exo 20:4), and whoever loves and practices a lie (breaking commandment #9 Exo 20:16 or any of them) . 1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. Also see James 2:10-12

We are not saved by keeping the commandments, we are saved by faith, but those who have faith in Jesus and love Him, obey Him. Rom 3:31 John 14:15 1 John 5:3 Exo 20:6 Rev 14:12 not on our own strength but through the power of the Holy Spirit through our love to Him John 14:15-18. All God's law does in show us our sin Rom 3:20 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 so we are not depending on our righteous way of living but depending on God's Psa 119:172 Isa 56:1-6 which is everlasting Psa 119:142. He doesn't even make us do it alone John 14:15-18 and if we stumble along the way if we are truly sorry and confess and repent He will cleanse us of all sin and unrighteousness 1 John 1:9 but when He heals He says go and sin no more. Our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21 we are not saved in sins Heb 10:26-30. Though the power of Jesus Christ we can overcome, but can't if we rebel against what God placed in our hearts. Rom 8:7-8

No wonder why Jesus pleads with us to come out of our false teachings Rev 18:4. It’s a matter of who we yield ourselves servants to obey. Rom 6:16 We are told to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat 4:4 yet many in that Great day will say Lord Lord, only to have the words we don't want to hear from Jesus because we were just hearers of His Word and not doers, only deceiving ourselves. James 1:22. It’s best to always pray for more love and faith in Him and His help obeying Him. If we turn away from His law. . . Pro 28:9

I do not say God did any wrong things. The Old Covenant was in place until Jesus shed his blood and rose again. The old covenant was fading away as the writer of Hebrews says abd decaying ready to vanish.

Jesus did give new commandments and the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made us free from the law of sin abd death. The law (speaking of the law of Moses) is not of faith and is a ministration of condemnation, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Through the law Paul said he was dead to the law. We read of the end of the commandment abd how love fulfills the law.

The law in stone does not give the power to keep love from the heart. Because men are sinners, the law is showing how a person who has love should act and by saying don’t don’t don’t do this or that. This simply points out that they do not have love for God or their neighbour when they sin. Then the law gives the knowledge of sin. I had not known sin except the law had said…

We even read things like this

Hebrews 7: 12. For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.”

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I do not say God did any wrong things. The Old Covenant was in place until Jesus shed his blood and rose again. The old covenant was fading away as the writer of Hebrews says abd decaying ready to vanish.

Jesus did give new commandments and the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made us free from the law of sin abd death. The law (speaking of the law of Moses) is not of faith and is a ministration of condemnation, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Through the law Paul said he was dead to the law. We read of the end of the commandment abd how love fulfills the law.

The law in stone does not give the power to keep love from the heart. Because men are sinners, the law is showing how a person who has love should act and by saying don’t don’t don’t do this or that. This simply points out that they do not have love for God or their neighbour when they sin. Then the law gives the knowledge of sin. I had not known sin except the law had said…

We even read things like this

Hebrews 7: 12. For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.”

If Jesus tells us the Ten Commandments, we are not to break the least of these-as it effects our status in heaven Mat 5:19-20 than we know no other scripture can contradict Jesus. We need to be living by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Mat 4:4 It's the only way.

So, if we allow the scripture to interpret Itself, instead of ripping out a verse here or a verse there, one would be able to see the whole picture that emerges from Jesus. His Truth. Sadly through, many prefer to stay in darkness John 3:18-20

Lets look a little deeper at these verses which plainly will tell us the law that needed to change. There are many laws in scripture and unless we understand the differences of God's moral and eternal law that He personally wrote that is holy, perfect and righteous Rom 7:12 Psa 119:172 Psa 19:7 compared to the law Moses handwrote that was placed outside the ark that was added because of transgression for breaking God's holy law that defines sin Rom 7:7 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30 the scriptures will never make sense and will constantly contradict themselves. There are no contradictions in scriptures, just misunderstandings.


Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He (Jesus) of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. 17 For He testifies:

“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing perfect; (so it can't be the Ten Commandments because that law is perfect Psa 19:7) on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath 21 (for they have become priests without an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him:

“The Lord has sworn
And will not relent,
‘You are a priest [f]forever
According to the order of Melchizedek’ ”),
22 by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant.

23 Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. 24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, [i]harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.

So this plainly tells us the law which had to change- which was the priesthood because Jesus came from the tribe of Judah. The law required the priesthood to come from the tribe of Levi because they were the only ones who did not partake in the idol of the golden calf when Moses went up to the Mt Sinai while God wrote on stone His moral and eternal law. So in order for Jesus to be our High Priest necessity a change also of the law- the Priesthood.

The earthy priesthood made nothing perfect because of the fleshy animal sacrifices for sin because....

Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, [a]sanctifies for the [b]purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without [c]spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Hebrews 10:4 4 The blood of animals cannot take away the sins of men.
5 When Christ came to the world, He said to God, “You do not want animals killed or gifts given in worship. You have made My body ready to give as a gift. 6 You are not pleased with animals that have been killed or burned and given as gifts on the altar to take away sin.

The earthy priesthood and animal sacrifices always pointed to Jesus our High Priest. Hebrews 10:1-25 Jesus whose blood can cleanse us of all sin and unrighteousness if we confess our sins and forsake them. Pro 28:13 1 John 1:9

Sin is still the same in the NC as it is in the OC, breaking the least of the commandments of God, His holy and eternal law. 1 John 2:3 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30

Our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21 we are not saved in sin Heb 10:26-30

Now what a better promise of instead of taking an animal to an earthy priest for our sins, Jesus paid the penalty at the alter so now we can go directly to Jesus when we sin when we repent and confess, which means a change of heart and a change in direction because when Jesus heals He says, go and sin no more. We too must die of self (sin) and be reborn in Christ and walk as He walked for our example 1 John 2:6

I pray this helps a little.

 

[LoveofTruth]

If Jesus tells us the Ten Commandments, we are not to break the least of these-as it effects our status in heaven Mat 5:19-20 than we know no other scripture can contradict Jesus.

Lets see if I can share more to help you see the bondage of the law you seek to be under. Remember, Jesus was made under the law and he alone can fulfill all things.

“But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,” (Galatians 4:4 KJV)

Jesus was under the law then and was also circumcised and a debtor to do the whole law and even animal sacrifice. So are you trying to ay ( as some unwisely say who do not understand the covenants) that because jesus did something we also must? If so that would include circumcision for all and keeping all the law of Moses including animal sacrifices. Which is not true today, read Hebrews and Galatians and Romans and Colossians etc.

"And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. 22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; 23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord; ) 24 And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons." (Luke 2:21-24 KJV)

When jesus said,

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments,"

he was speaking of the law that was given to Israel. That law included all sorts of commandments about many things, sacrificing animals, circumcision, ritual ordinances moral aspects etc. But look close at the section jesus says

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. "

Jesus alone can fulfill the law. No one else could./ We read things like this here

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?” (John 7:19 KJV)

Here we see that Jesus himself said none of them keep the law. Only Jesus could,

then we read,

"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."

Here Jesus is warning them of seeking to establish their own righteousness of the law as the pharisees did. This was the danger. The law shows sin and drags them to Christ to be justified by faith. The law kills them in a sense and is a schoolmaster to bring them to Christ, but after the they are come to Christ they are no longer under the law.

"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” (Matthew 5:20-22 KJV)

Notice that Jesus quotes the law thou shalt not kill, then he says "But I say unto you". Showing that his commands are different than Moses. The self righteous pharisees of then (like some today) would have been very upset to hear Jesus Quote the Mosaic law and then say "But I say unto you".Jesus commands are different than Moses.

The people under the law as Jesus was made under the law were required to do all the law said every aspect of it. They were , as we read under the bondage of the law. It was called the curse of the law.

“Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:” (Galatians 3:13 KJV)

“For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.” (Galatians 4L25 KJV)

“But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?” (Galatians 4:9 KJV)

“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” *Galatians 5:1-4 KJV

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Lets see if I can share more to help you see the bondage of the law you seek to be under. Remember, Jesus was made under the law and he alone can fulfill all things.

“But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,” (Galatians 4:4 KJV)

Jesus was under the law then and was also circumcised and a debtor to do the whole law and even animal sacrifice. So are you trying to ay ( as some unwisely say who do not understand the covenants) that because jesus did something we also must? If so that would include circumcision for all and keeping all the law of Moses including animal sacrifices. Which is not true today, read Hebrews and Galatians and Romans and Colossians etc.

"And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. 22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; 23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord; ) 24 And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons." (Luke 2:21-24 KJV)

When jesus said,

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments,"

he was speaking of the law that was given to Israel. That law included all sorts of commandments about many things, sacrificing animals, circumcision, ritual ordinances moral aspects etc. But look close at the section jesus says

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. "

Jesus alone can fulfill the law. No one else could./ We read things like this here

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?” (John 7:19 KJV)

Here we see that Jesus himself said none of them keep the law. Only Jesus could,

then we read,

"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."

Here Jesus is warning them of seeking to establish their own righteousness of the law as the pharisees did. This was the danger. The law shows sin and drags them to Christ to be justified by faith. The law kills them in a sense and is a schoolmaster to bring them to Christ, but after the they are come to Christ they are no longer under the law.

"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” (Matthew 5:20-22 KJV)

Notice that Jesus quotes the law thou shalt not kill, then he says "But I say unto you". Showing that his commands are different than Moses. The self righteous pharisees of then (like some today) would have been very upset to hear Jesus Quote the Mosaic law and then say "But I say unto you".Jesus commands are different than Moses.

The people under the law as Jesus was made under the law were required to do all the law said every aspect of it. They were , as we read under the bondage of the law. It was called the curse of the law.

“Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:” (Galatians 3:13 KJV)

“For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.” (Galatians 4L25 KJV)

“But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?” (Galatians 4:9 KJV)

“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” *Galatians 5:1-4 KJV

Jesus said not to break the least of these commandments and then directly quoted two of the Ten Commandments as to the commandments He was referring to. Mat 5:19-30 He didn’t quote the law of animal sacrifices, or the law of circumcision -I would suggest not adding something thats not there because it changes the context. Jesus does not need us to speak for Him, I believe He means what He says, but if you feel the warning in this passage means something different or not meant for you when He clearly says “whoever” we can test any theory we want.

Jesus was born under the law, just as we are, because Jesus could not be our Savior or example had He not been tempted, just as we are, but without sin for our example to follow. Heb 4:15 1 Peter 2:21-22 1 John 2:6. God’s faithful keep God’s commandments Rev 14:12, just as Jesus did John 15:10, He is who we are to follow- He is the Way and led by example, but sadly many choose another path.


Take care.

 

[LoveofTruth]

Jesus said not to break the least of these commandments and then directly quoted two of the Ten Commandments as to the commandments He was referring to. Mat 5:19-30

Jesus was circumcised and two turtle doves were offered at his birth according to the law.

The law Jesus refers to is the entire law including all in it all sacrifices and rituals. Yes, Jesus points to the spiritual aspect of the law and does speak of moral sins etc. But notice how Jesus would talk of the Law then say, “But I say unto you@. His commands are different.

Jesus was born under the law, just as we are,

Believers today are not under the law.

Galatians 5: 18. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.”

To be under the law was to be in bondage to all that the law required , everything, including circumcision, sacrifices etc.
Galatians 5: 3. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.”

And we see sone believers still struggling with the law and even circumcision and animal sacrifices way after Christ death when they did not need to do so. Read this in Acts 15 and Acts 21.

 

[FredVB]

Matthew 5:18 shows that Jesus said, "I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." What would he mean that it would all be fulfilled, but not until when heaven and earth pass away, but for everything happens that is to come until it all does pass away, at the end, when there is the new heaven and new earth made, with creation that groaned for it brought in and just the repentant of the redeemed, of all humanity, included there, with no sin and no hurt or harm ever to come, there? Sacrifice did not go away, it is Christ's atoning sacrifice that was ever effective, that works, for all, ever, and that is done already and this law is effective for all, showing there is sin, that we should not do, meaning there is God's will that we should do.

We are not under the law, that means we are free from judgment from the law being in Christ from whom there is the one effective atoning sacrifice, who bore the effects of needed judgment for us who are repentant and with the essential faith that is needed, being in Christ. It is wrong to say we are under the law with being obedient.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Jesus was circumcised and two turtle doves were offered at his birth according to the law.

The law Jesus refers to is the entire law including all in it all sacrifices and rituals. Yes, Jesus points to the spiritual aspect of the law and does speak of moral sins etc. But notice how Jesus would talk of the Law then say, “But I say unto you@. His commands are different.


Believers today are not under the law.

Galatians 5: 18. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.”

To be under the law was to be in bondage to all that the law required , everything, including circumcision, sacrifices etc.
Galatians 5: 3. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.”

And we see sone believers still struggling with the law and even circumcision and animal sacrifices way after Christ death when they did not need to do so. Read this in Acts 15 and Acts 21.

There are lots of laws in scripture, there is not a one size fits all for the laws, Neh 9:13 the context will tell us the law the Text is referring to if one allows. The law that is perfect Psa 19:7, defines sin Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12, that is holy and righteous Rom 7:12 Psa 119:172 written by the finger of God Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16, will never be the law that is contrary and against set outside the ark handwritten by Moses Deut 31:24-26, no matter how many times people try to make it be so, one is really only hurting themselves in the long run.

You are making a straw man over circumcision and animal sacrifices. The scriptures are clear that Jesus became our Sacrificial Lamb 1 Cor 5:7 and all animal sacrifices pointed to Jesus Heb 10:1-22 at the Cross and Paul said circumcision is not what matters, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters 1 Cor 7:19 the same commandments Jesus told us to keep that are written in the heart Mat 15:3-14 Heb 8:10. I am pretty sure I shared these scriptures with you so apparently you are not reading which is why you are making arguments about these that no one is making.

I'm not sure how one comes to Christ and thinks they can now worship other gods, vain His holy name bow to idols, break His holy Sabbath day, steal, covet or break the least of these commandments the opposite of what Jesus taught Mat 5:19 and lived John 15:10 and think they are following God' s Truth Psa 119:151 or God's righteousness Psa 119:172 or the example of what Jesus taught and lived. 1 John 2:6 John 15:10. I find it very strange. But the only reasonable explanation is what is given in the scriptures. Rom 8:7-8 Mat 15:3-14 2 Thess. 2:11

Since we are going over the same arguments that have been addressed, seems fruitless to continue. Be well.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Matthew 5:18 shows that Jesus said, "I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." What would he mean that it would all be fulfilled, but not until when heaven and earth pass away, but for everything happens that is to come until it all does pass away, at the end, when there is the new heaven and new earth made, with creation that groaned for it brought in and just the repentant of the redeemed, of all humanity, included there, with no sin and no hurt or harm ever to come, there? Sacrifice did not go away, it is Christ's atoning sacrifice that was ever effective, that works, for all, ever, and that is done already and this law is effective for all, showing there is sin, that we should not do, meaning there is God's will that we should do.

We are not under the law, that means we are free from judgment from the law being in Christ from whom there is the one effective atoning sacrifice, who bore the effects of needed judgment for us who are repentant and with the essential faith that is needed, being in Christ. It is wrong to say we are under the law with being obedient.

Nice post.

Sadly no one ever tries to reconcile scripture. If Jesus came not to destroy the law but to fulfill, fulfill can't be the same definition as destroy i.e. end and if you read the next verse 19 that Jesus says not to break the least of these commandments as one would be least in heaven, obviously fulfill means just as Jesus stated in verse 18

Matthew 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Jesus never said until He goes to the Cross, He said ALL is fulfilled which will not be until this happens, yet to be fulfilled....

Rev 1:7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

1 Thess 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who [a]do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

Isa 66:17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.

God never breaks His promises like Psa 89:34 , if we believe His Word, it will lead us on the narrow path back to Him where we will forever be with Jesus.

 

[LoveofTruth]

There are lots of laws in scripture, there is not a one size fits all for the laws, Neh 9:13 the context will tell us the law the Text is referring to if one allows. The law that is perfect Psa 19:7, defines sin Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12, that is holy and righteous Rom 7:12 Psa 119:172 written by the finger of God Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16, will never be the law that is contrary and against set outside the ark handwritten by Moses Deut 31:24-26, no matter how many times people try to make it be so, one is really only hurting themselves in the long run.

You are making a straw man over circumcision and animal sacrifices. The scriptures are clear that Jesus became our Sacrificial Lamb 1 Cor 5:7 and all animal sacrifices pointed to Jesus Heb 10:1-22 at the Cross and Paul said circumcision is not what matters, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters 1 Cor 7:19 the same commandments Jesus told us to keep that are written in the heart Mat 15:3-14 Heb 8:10. I am pretty sure I shared these scriptures with you so apparently you are not reading which is why you are making arguments about these that no one is making.

I'm not sure how one comes to Christ and thinks they can now worship other gods, vain His holy name bow to idols, break His holy Sabbath day, steal, covet or break the least of these commandments the opposite of what Jesus taught Mat 5:19 and lived John 15:10 and think they are following God' s Truth Psa 119:151 or God's righteousness Psa 119:172 or the example of what Jesus taught and lived. 1 John 2:6 John 15:10. I find it very strange. But the only reasonable explanation is what is given in the scriptures. Rom 8:7-8 Mat 15:3-14 2 Thess. 2:11

Since we are going over the same arguments that have been addressed, seems fruitless to continue. Be well.

Oh, there’s lots to show that we haven’t talked of yet.

Also even the animal sacrifices are shadows of spiritual truth. The blood shed outwardly figures Christ shed blood and the life and we read that our hearts are sprinkled from an evil conscience by the blood of Christ.

Love fulfills the law. Men are not in that live outside of Christ or in his test . Do the law exposes sin. When they come to Christ the live of God is shed abroad in thier heart.

If a person has Gods love in them they don’t steal from thier neighbour you don’t need to tell them. Don’t steal or kill or cover your neighbour.

You don’t need to tell a believer who has come to Christ to have rest and who ceases from his own works to rest on a physical sabbath .

Also 2 Corinthians 3:7 till the end shows that the Ten Commandments (engraved in stones) was past sone away abolished a ministration of death and condemnation to those who are still under it.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Oh, there’s lots to show that we haven’t talked of yet.

Also even the animal sacrifices are shadows of spiritual truth. The blood shed outwardly figures Christ shed blood and the life and we read that our hearts are sprinkled from an evil conscience by the blood of Christ.

Love fulfills the law. Men are not in that live outside of Christ or in his test . Do the law exposes sin. When they come to Christ the live of God is shed abroad in thier heart.

If a person has Gods love in them they don’t steal from thier neighbour you don’t need to tell them. Don’t steal or kill or cover your neighbour.

You don’t need to tell a believer who has come to Christ to have rest and who ceases from his own works to rest on a physical sabbath .

Also 2 Corinthians 3:7 till the end shows that the Ten Commandments (engraved in stones) was past sone away abolished a ministration of death and condemnation to those who are still under it.

Yet Paul still says this....

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”

And why when we choose not to use God's law as a guide for moral and righteous living and instead depend on what we feel is right or wrong, as Jesus says, it leads one in a ditch Mat 15:3-14 because: There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death. Prov 14:12 It’s best to place our faith and trust in Him which includes living by His every Word Mat 4:4 and follow His teachings such as Mat 5:19-30 Mat 15:3-14 John 14:15 John 15:10 Mat 19:17-19 Mat 2:27 Isa 56:1-6 etc. etc.

We need to confess and forsake our sins Pro 28:13, but if we refuse to allow the biblical version of what is sin 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 Rom 7:7 we might end up removing a commandment that God wants us not to forget and therefore it won't be covered under His mercy seat, and that seems like a terrible position to be in come Judgement Day Mat 7:23 Rev 22:14-15. So many things can go wrong when we depend on our righteousness instead of God's Psa 119:172 our truth instead of God's Psa 119:151, but God does give us free will.

 

[LoveofTruth]

To be under the law, does not simply mean "we are free from judgment from the law"

No to be under the law meant that the Ot people were in a bondage to the law to keep all the law and sacrifices and moral law, everything. It was when men wrongly tried to establish their own righteousness by the law.

We are not under the law is we are walk in the Spirit now.

consider

“For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise,...”" ( Romans 10:3-6 KJV)

“Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.” (Romans 7:1-4 KJV)

“But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.” (Romans 7:6)

 

[LoveofTruth]

And why when we choose not to use God's law as a guide for moral and righteous living

This is the error you speak here, consider

"...if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law." (Galatians 3:21 KJV)

It is now the Holy Ghost that guides us into all truth and believers are made free from the law of sin and death by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. This is a new and living way.

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come." (John 16:13 KJV)

"But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.” (1 John 2:20 KJV)

“But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” (1 John 2:27 KJV)

“And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:” (John 16:8 KJV)

and the rest...

"For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster." (Galatians 3:18-24 KJV)