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There is no comparison between the genders on the visual. There is actually quite a bit of negative material out there by females about males. What women do with the visual is look for character clues or traits; for men it is seldom that, and is usually a sexual arousal.
As far as I know, one of the tricks of pornography is to subvert this reality through indoctrination, because then there will be a greater market.
When her nipples bounce off her belly, it's a good idea not to go topless.
Besides, we're falling as a nation at an amazingly fast pace morally. Why add NOS to the trip?
Is your topless body really so horrible that it's sinful to show it?When her nipples bounce off her belly, it's a good idea not to go topless.
Besides, we're falling as a nation at an amazingly fast pace morally. Why add NOS to the trip?
Is your topless body really so horrible that it's sinful to show it?
So the Chippendales rip off their shirts to expose their muscular chests to the audience of cheering ladies just to keep their shirt supplier in a steady stream of business? Until recently Abercrombie & Fitch had their flagship store at the Grove, an outdoor shopping center here in LA, and two eye candy employees would stand at the entry. Did the supremely hot dudes stand there topless just to get more vitamin D on their chests? Did so many sculptors and painters just depict Adonis shirtless because they were too lazy to add in a toga?
Legalizing toplessness for women is a step towards it becoming more culturally acceptable. Just as legalizing toplessness for men. In the past men had to wearing bathing suits that covered their chests, and suits also needed to extend far below the thigh on both genders. You still do not see men going into Fortune 500 companies or fine dining establishments without shirts on, and if women were permitted to be topless most would still use common sense discretion regarding the appropriate contexts. Hopefully if laws did changed, and with it the conditioned cultural response to breasts, then women who breast feed in public wouldn't feel as awkward about it.
I like how there was bost body shaming AND sanctimonious moralising in the same post!
I don't understand the logic, "God made us as we are", "The way God made us is sinful unless we cover it up."
There is no comparison between the genders on the visual. There is actually quite a bit of negative material out there by females about males. What women do with the visual is look for character clues or traits; for men it is seldom that, and is usually a sexual arousal.
When her nipples bounce off her belly, it's a good idea not to go topless.
Besides, we're falling as a nation at an amazingly fast pace morally.
Aw, leave it to an atheist to attempt to imply a body insult to a Christian woman.Is your topless body really so horrible that it's sinful to show it?
Aw, leave it to an atheist to attempt to imply a body insult to a Christian woman. I teach aerobics and have to 10 years. How's your wife's body? Mine is as trim as it gets. How's yours?
Modesty sir, probably escapes you, but none the less. And for that one that sighed at the mere thought of modesty, please show me in scripture where it says women are to bare their breasts in public for all the world to see.
3). Romans 14:13 tells us not to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother, but the allure of female breasts would diminish if women would regularly go topless in places where men commonly go topless. In addition we allow men to go topless in America(something that was illegal less than 100 years ago) with no concern that they might be placing a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of women.
One - why do we WANT "the allure of female breasts" to "diminish" in the first place? I do not think that to be a good thing.
Two - there is a reason no fuss was made about men going shirtless early in the 20th century. Up to the start of that century, women were considered (since the time of Hypocrates - 400 bc) to have no sexual drive or arousal. And even well into the 20th century they were not considered to be visually stimulated. Of course now we know that is not true. Women, especially the younger ones that did not grow up under that myth, are reporting being visually stimulated. Young women are using porn at an increasing rate - especially gay male porn. IMO the concept of males going around "topless" may be worthwhile revisiting as well.
I don't think we can go backwards.
I don't understand the logic, "God made us as we are", "The way God made us is sinful unless we cover it up."
And check out Roman sculpture, which clearly focuses more on males as having sexual power instead of women. I realize that we live in a different era, but there is nothing intrinsic to female toplessness that makes it superior in sexual power to male toplessness.
But that is what christian repentance is all about. The Greek NT word translated to repent (metanoin) means to change your thinking, and the Hebrew OT word (Teshuvah) means to turn around and go back the way you came.
There are countless verses concerning immodesty.Perhaps you should read the OP, paying particular attention to number 1, 2 and 3:
Would those who are opposed to women going topless in public please address the following:
1). At no place in Scripture are women forbidden from going topless in public.
2). 1 Timothy 2:9 tells us that women are to dress modestly, however modestly is defined as adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes. Going topless is never mentioned. Nudity was actually much more common in Biblical times.
3). Romans 14:13 tells us not to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother, but the allure of female breasts would diminish if women would regularly go topless in places where men commonly go topless. In addition we allow men to go topless in America(something that was illegal less than 100 years ago) with no concern that they might be placing a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of women.
4). Even if Scripture did forbid women from going topless, the US is a secular nation.
5). Men obviously can handle seeing women go topless because women regularly do so in many parts of the world.
6). If we are "created equal," how can we allow men to go without a shirt in public without allowing women to do the same?
Aw, leave it to an atheist to attempt to imply a body insult to a Christian woman.
I teach aerobics and have to 10 years. How's your wife's body? Mine is as trim as it gets.
How's yours?
Modesty sir, probably escapes you, but none the less.
And for that one that sighed at the mere thought of modesty, please show me in scripture where it says women are to bare their breasts in public for all the world to see.
Looking forward to it.
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