Why reincarnation is the truth

[Seraphe]

I follow the spiritualist philosophy of reincarnation. It's different from Hinduism in that we return as humans only, not animals.

Each lifetime is a series of lessons. You will never make it to heaven until you "get it"...you figure out life. Until then, you will keep taking on new lives. Right now, you may be on your 8th life, but you won't realize it until you die (again).

The proof is in the many incidences of past-life recall. One such incident involved a boy who insisted he had lived in a certain midwestern town and had been killed on a bicycle at age 14. He begged to be taken to that town and was finally allowed to. He led investigators to the spot he had been killed as well as where he had lived. He knew the correct names of everyone in the house, and they corroberated his story. This is one of many incidences.

There is no such place as Hell. That's not to say there is no punishment -- negativity breeds negativity after all. But you'll always get a second chance. Don't be fearful.

 

[sanaa]

actually hinduism says once u have attained human form u can come back as a human only and not a lower life form even tho u mite have led a bad life . may people have a misconception that it states the opposite

 

[IchbinBerliner]

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[Onemonthman]

Viva! Great verse, wrong usage.
you who practice lawlessness!
Read further to find out, what is the ultimate law?

Then everyone who hears these Words from Me, and does them, I will compare him to a wise man who built his house on the rock v 24

but the ones who do the will of My Father in Heaven. v 21

37 And Jesus said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind." Deut. 6:5
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like it: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Lev. 19:18
40 On these two commandments all the Law and the Prophets hang.

Many christians do practice lawlessness, they expect salvation for saying "We have faith" and "we believe", but indeed even the demons believe!

And part of that lawlessness is to worship false idols. One way of doing so is to create God to exist in a way that He has not revealed Himself to be and then place that as truth out there and teach it. Another is to change the Word of God to fit fallacious ideas. Calling oneself Christian and then espousing non-Christian ideals seems to me to be the height of lawlessness.

 

[Onemonthman]

So you accept that there are multiple gods? Lol, I thought Christianity was monotheistic.

I said (g)od, not (G)od. Money can be a god. Sex can be a god. Many things can be a god. Hey, satan is the god of this world. But when it is all said and done, there is only one God.

 

[Onemonthman]

You may pray but it is to a hindu god, not God almighty.

There is no other religion except Hinduism which explains in detail True and divine nature of God almighty.

Hindus pray in true sense and with full knowledge to God almighty whereas others pray the same God almighty but in ignorance.

Peace everywhere

Oh brother.

 

[Onemonthman]

There is no such place as Hell. That's not to say there is no punishment -- negativity breeds negativity after all. But you'll always get a second chance. Don't be fearful.

I get so sad when I hear things like this said to others. There is an enemy of our souls and this is the exact message he wants us to hear and accept. There is a hell and people need to have a fear of going there.

 

[Proud Hindu]

I said (g)od, not (G)od. Money can be a god. Sex can be a god. Many things can be a god. Hey, satan is the god of this world. But when it is all said and done, there is only one God.

Well I don't worship either of those, I worship Krishna, who is Love. So how is this different from your 'god'? There is only one God, people call Him by different names.

Oh brother.

Nice way of getting out of answering when you have no answer.

I get so sad when I hear things like this said to others. There is an enemy of our souls and this is the exact message he wants us to hear and accept. There is a hell and people need to have a fear of going there.

Fear is Hell. Strength is life, weakness is death.

Your religion teaches you to be weak, ours teaches us to be strong. What kind of twisted religion would tell its followers to be fearful?

"If there is one word that you find coming like a bomb from the Upanisads, bursting like a bombshell upon masses of ignorance, it is the word - fearlessness."

- Swami Vivekananda

 

[Onemonthman]

There is only one God, people call Him by different names.

There is another one of those messages the enemy loves to hear being spread.

Nice way of getting out of answering when you have no answer.

Please, I don't need to get out of anything. It seems that some are so blinded and love the blindness so much that they don't want to see the truth.

Your religion teaches you to be weak, ours teaches us to be strong. What kind of twisted religion would tell its followers to be fearful?

I wonder how strong the strongest man will be when faced with eternal damnation. I doubt very. I stand strong in the truth. The truth is Jesus and by Him I have strengh. There is no other.

 

[vedickings]

There is no other.

Man this gets old. So if the Bible says you can only eat apples and no other food is allowed, (food made by Satan), would you only eat apples tell the day you die, that means no McDonald and all that fastfood etc.

If so, that is brainwashing. I don't believe every word I read, which is called thinking for yourself.

 

[Fiendishjester]

There is another one of those messages the enemy loves to hear being spread.

What's up with this whole idea of the "enemy?" The original connotation of the word in Hebrew is something more akin to "adversary, or "opponent." In the old Jewish tradition, Satan is called "the greatest servant of God", because it tests people and eventually brings them closer to Him. Satan was not considered an enemy of God at all, but another part of the natural order. Satan also was not considered an actual, evil being. Why did Christians change the nature of this concept?

 

[coyoteBR]

What's up with this whole idea of the "enemy?" The original connotation of the word in Hebrew is something more akin to "adversary, or "opponent." In the old Jewish tradition, Satan is called "the greatest servant of God", because it tests people and eventually brings them closer to Him. Satan was not considered an enemy of God at all, but another part of the natural order. Satan also was not considered an actual, evil being. Why did Christians change the nature of this concept?

Actually, many dhristians don't believe in the figure of the Devil... historically, such concept grew strong or weaker, depending of the ideas around. Now, the growing of Conservative Religious give the figure of "the enemy" more force and exposure.

In the end the devil concept it's a way some people have to better believe in the message and Law of God. If works for then, good.

 

[Onemonthman]

Man this gets old. So if the Bible says you can only eat apples and no other food is allowed, (food made by Satan), would you only eat apples tell the day you die, that means no McDonald and all that fastfood etc.

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I would certainly try my hardest to follow. Luckily, we are no longer under law but grace and if I slipped which I am sure I would (LOVE THOSE BIG MACS) then I would know I have a Savior to wash me clean.

 

[Onemonthman]

What's up with this whole idea of the "enemy?" The original connotation of the word in Hebrew is something more akin to "adversary, or "opponent." In the old Jewish tradition, Satan is called "the greatest servant of God", because it tests people and eventually brings them closer to Him. Satan was not considered an enemy of God at all, but another part of the natural order. Satan also was not considered an actual, evil being. Why did Christians change the nature of this concept?

Now this post is just silly. Come on now. Have you read the Bible?

 

[Daegor]

Now this post is just silly. Come on now. Have you read the Bible?

I have, and amongst a smattering of good philosophies it is padded out with lies.

Every argument you put forward is just based on the oppinion that the bible is true...

If you're using faith rather than logic I fail to see why you think these arguments will carry any weight, if you are only going on belief then Christianity is no more valid than any other religion.

I know you can't prove otherwise because you're usual response will be "well it says in the bible that..." or "the only LIE is that Christianity is false...blah blah etc etc" or if you're feeling really creative... "oh brother" or words to that effect.

Faith is relative, you clearly have next to no idea of why you're a Christian, otherwise you might be able to put forward a more coherant argument for it...

Now this is where you say: "I'm a Christian because it's all true, the bible says so!!"

 

[coyoteBR]

ok, people, take a deep breath and let's cool down, everybody. We don't want this thread closed.

Funny thing is, we had that subject before here, and the discussion went without problems... let's try to do it again, shall we?

Peace

 

[Seraphe]

I get so sad when I hear things like this said to others. There is an enemy of our souls and this is the exact message he wants us to hear and accept. There is a hell and people need to have a fear of going there.

Fear of hell is one reason ghosts exist. The dead are so frightened of such a place that they can't move on to the next life. It's unfortunate.

Tell me, if God is so omnipotent, and if God loves every single one of us no matter what, how could he allow some of us to go to Hell after death? Especially those deceased before Jesus's birth and those who've never known Christianity. What becomes of stillborn babies then? They go to Heaven and...what? They're taken care of by midwife-angels for all eternity? How lucky they are to never have to struggle with believing something they can't see. Too bad I couldn't have kicked the bucket at three months and not have to worry about the afterlife.

But maybe I'm assuming that our God is fair when he isn't?

 

[Proud Hindu]

There is another one of those messages the enemy loves to hear being spread.

You didn't respond to the rest of my post... are you saying Jesus is not Love? And if He is Love, and I worship Krishna, who is Love, how are they different?

It seems that some are so blinded and love the blindness so much that they don't want to see the truth.

How very ironic that you would be the one to say that.

I wonder how strong the strongest man will be when faced with eternal damnation. I doubt very.

I am not referring to physical strength. I am referring to strength of the mind. A great soul, who knows he is one with the infinite, can destroy heaven and hell (if they existed) by a mere thought.

 

[Fiendishjester]

Now this post is just silly. Come on now. Have you read the Bible?

I have read the Bible, and this is exactly what I'm talking about. Why was this concept changed in the Bible? Why wasn't it kept the same as it was in the original Judaism?

 

[Onemonthman]

I have, and amongst a smattering of good philosophies it is padded out with lies.

Every argument you put forward is just based on the oppinion that the bible is true...

If you're using faith rather than logic I fail to see why you think these arguments will carry any weight, if you are only going on belief then Christianity is no more valid than any other religion.

I know you can't prove otherwise because you're usual response will be "well it says in the bible that..." or "the only LIE is that Christianity is false...blah blah etc etc" or if you're feeling really creative... "oh brother" or words to that effect.

Faith is relative, you clearly have next to no idea of why you're a Christian, otherwise you might be able to put forward a more coherant argument for it...

Now this is where you say: "I'm a Christian because it's all true, the bible says so!!"

This post and you are not worth a response.